new version of OSAS?

[Eternally Grateful]

Hebrews 4:11

Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.

Those who believe enter...
But what kept the others out?
They did not mix what they head with faith

What kept the others out?
Unbelief

if they truly believed they would have continued because god is faithful

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Wait until you see NEXT weeks version! Lol....

You mean you have a new, new Osas?

Can't wait.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

if they truly believed they would have continued because god is faithful

Why don't you ever tell BB that? He's saying you can stop believing and you are still saved. He says he did stop believing and became a full fledged atheist, but remained saved the whole time. You say real believers don't/can't do that. You're agreeing with me that he was not saved during that time. And, we're probably in agreement that he was not really saved before that.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

I don’t have a “ License to Sin ” .....I don’t want one .....if I had one I would not use it.....Sin to me, now that I have a New Heart, is like sticking my hand in a fire.....now who wants a License to do that ?

Then why do you keep sinning? And on purpose, too!

 

[amigo de christo]

What kept the others out?
Unbelief

if they truly believed they would have continued because god is faithful

Remind BB of this . The man is teaching some seriously dangerous doctrine .
They went out from amongst us , for they were not truly of us , for if they had been of us , they would have CONTINUED .
This is correct my friend .
But we got some teaching , even if folks stop believing they are still saved . We cant allow this . This is a false gospel .
Try and imagine JESUS saying that . You know he never said it once .
The JESUS i know said Ye must continue to the end . The JESUS i know said his lambs are hearers and doers of the word .
And that a hearer only has deceived themselves . Built their house on sand , not on Christ .
So remind BB of this my dear friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

Then why do you keep sinning? And on purpose, too!

You must remind him with biblical doctrine .
Paul made no bones about it . WHO we serve is whose we are .
Its evidence of who we belong too . Evidence of what we follow .
BB claims the blood , but does not know the power of it . WHERE is the evidence of the SPIRIT .
Any seasoned man would sound like paul did , when it comes to sin and error . LET it not once be named .
GOD wont be mocked , He who sows to the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption .
HE who sows to the Spirit shall reap life everlasting . Ye shall know them by their fruits .
Flood that man with sound biblical reminders . OH i know he will try and twist them . BUT DO It
for the sakes of the others who might hear the truth .
I feel sad for bb . While he can preach the truth of what does save us , HE KNOWS not the ONE WHO SAVED US .
Nor the power . My prayer is may his soul be convicted till he be led to repentance and give true solid faith .
I mean if our faith is in JESUS , would we not believe HIM and take HIM at His every word and reminder .
Many folks can quoate the gospel , Heck even i once could . But i served darkness , i served and had my conversation
with the prince of darkness through the lusts of the flesh .

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Remind BB of this . The man is teaching some seriously dangerous doctrine .
They went out from amongst us , for they were not truly of us , for if they had been of us , they would have CONTINUED .
This is correct my friend .
But we got some teaching , even if folks stop believing they are still saved . We cant allow this . This is a false gospel .
Try and imagine JESUS saying that . You know he never said it once .
The JESUS i know said Ye must continue to the end . The JESUS i know said his lambs are hearers and doers of the word .
And that a hearer only has deceived themselves . Built their house on sand , not on Christ .
So remind BB of this my dear friend .

John said if you deny Christ in unbelief you were Never if us

a true believer would never deny Christ because Christ never lets us down or gives us a reason to deny him. He is faithful to the end. We lost faith in others
Because they prove to Be unfaithful and fail us continually so they lose the ability for us to trust them

to say We can lose faith in God is to say he loses the ability for us to trust him because he fails us continuously

hence to say we can lose faith is to say god is unfaithful.

the only people who would say this in my view has never truly experienced the faithfulness of God.

if BB. Think you can lose faith then this is worrisome

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You must remind him with biblical doctrine .
Paul made no bones about it . WHO we serve is whose we are .
Its evidence of who we belong too . Evidence of what we follow .
BB claims the blood , but does not know the power of it . WHERE is the evidence of the SPIRIT .
Any seasoned man would sound like paul did , when it comes to sin and error . LET it not once be named .
GOD wont be mocked , He who sows to the flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption .
HE who sows to the Spirit shall reap life everlasting . Ye shall know them by their fruits .
Flood that man with sound biblical reminders . OH i know he will try and twist them . BUT DO It
for the sakes of the others who might hear the truth .
I feel sad for bb . While he can preach the truth of what does save us , HE KNOWS not the ONE WHO SAVED US .
Nor the power . My prayer is may his soul be convicted till he be led to repentance and give true solid faith .
I mean if our faith is in JESUS , would we not believe HIM and take HIM at His every word and reminder .
Many folks can quoate the gospel , Heck even i once could . But i served darkness , i served and had my conversation
with the prince of darkness through the lusts of the flesh .

Got to love these people who think either they do not sin or if they do sin it was on accident

 

[amigo de christo]

John said if you deny Christ in unbelief you were Never if us

a true believer would never deny Christ because Christ never lets us down or gives us a reason to deny him. He is faithful to the end. We lost faith in others
Because they prove to Be unfaithful and fail us continually so they lose the ability for us to trust them

to say We can lose faith in God is to say he loses the ability for us to trust him because he fails us continuously

hence to say we can lose faith is to say god is unfaithful.

the only people who would say this in my view has never truly experienced the faithfulness of God.

if BB. Think you can lose faith then this is worrisome

You should read more of his posts my friend . He has said even if one believed and then later fell into unbelief
they are still saved .

 

[kcnalp]

If I gave you a license to have a free Drano enema , would you use it

Wow, how OSAS!

I don’t have a “ License to Sin ” .....I don’t want one .....if I had one I would not use it.....Sin to me, now that I have a New Heart, is like sticking my hand in a fire.....now who wants a License to do that ?

But it's always there in case you change your mind, again.

 

[amigo de christo]

Got to love these people who think either they do not sin or if they do sin it was on accident

Sin is not on accident . No one here claims they have never erred . At least i hope not .
This is why we follow the pattern first given to us . Be grave against sin , warn against it .
IF folks err , do as the leaders taught us , Confess those faults , turn from them .
There is no man who does not have evil in his flesh . But greater is our Lord , greater is His spirit .
For believe me , when the flesh pops lusts , evil thoughts into my own head , the SPIRIT
sounds out warnings fast . Let us heed the Spirit and not the flesh .
Let us remind with the same pattern that Christ first did and the apostles later would .
LET it not once be named . Depart from inquity . All those warnings given from paul , james , jude
john , peter , WERE DONE So by the SPIRIT . JESUS Knows how to take care of His church , His body .
THUS let us heed the SPIRIT , let us learn the biblical doctrine very well . Let us heed all things they did write .

 

[kcnalp]

Your loss.....stay ignorant....I don’t care...

I think calling someone "ignorant" is against forum rules.

Farely is just one example....there are many more God - Given Teachers out there....You, like jbf , ( Whatever happened to that guy? )are probably self- taught, and Boy, does it show!

You picking out "God - Given Teachers" that have fallen for the OSAS hoax proves?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

OSAS does not teach this either

The new Osas does teach that you can be a saved Christian but not a disciple.

 

[kcnalp]

Ahh but all the insults you throw at us are ok?

Quote my insults.

your a hypocrite just like a few others are

Oh boy, more name calling. Who would believe it?

 

[amigo de christo]

I think calling someone "ignorant" is against forum rules.

You picking out "God - Given Teachers" that have fallen for the OSAS hoax proves?

Worry not about names my friend . I have been called far worse by many .
And all for reminding folks about JESUS sayings and the sayings of the apostles .
I wont repeat the four letter words or words to that effect , but i will repeat some of the names
i have been called . Anti Christ , Son of perditon , hater of humanity , godless , and so forth .
But what did they call JESUS . SO I REJOICE when i am counted worthy to suffer even the name calling .
Forgive those who even speak evil against us . JUST never conform to any lie .
Stand on the Rock of our salvation , Christ JESUS and embrace ALL THINGS HE Did teach and say .
Embrace all things written by those apostles who knew Him .
Embrace all reminders and warnings HE gave unto the seven churches from heaven as well .
EMBRACE EVERY WORD OF THE GLORIOUS LORD . AND KNOW and understand ye shall be hated for doing so .

 

[kcnalp]

Still waiting for you to put up

all we hear from you is a lot of anger and false accusations

And you called me a liar 3 times? How ironic!

 

[kcnalp]

The Bible says those people have never been saved

why do you deny the omniscience of God. Having no knowledge of who these people are. And giving them eternal life only to have to Make it Conditional because God was fooled
By their fake faith

Hebrews 6:4-6 (NKJV)
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, (Christians) ! 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. 7 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briars, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

My security is based simply upon this——I Trust God to keep His Word.He said that “ Anybody that asks to be Saved WILL be Saved”.... the Onus to Save is on Him.....” HE” made the promise, not me....

I did “MY” part —- I asked.......Now, unless God is a Liar, He is obligated to do “ HIS” Part—— Save me....

The scripture you're missing is He made that promise to believing people. It's a covenant. A new covenant, one based on faith. Your part is to believe and keep believing. You stop doing your part if/when you are no longer a believing person. His part is to turn the universe inside out, if he has to, to keep his promise to those who believe, not to those who are not believing/trusting in him.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Hebrews 6:4-6 (NKJV)
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, (Christians) ! 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame. 7 For the earth which drinks in the rain that often comes upon it, and bears herbs useful for those by whom it is cultivated, receives blessing from God; 8 but if it bears thorns and briars, it is rejected and near to being cursed, whose end is to be burned.

The new Osaser's look at this and say to themselves, "that doesn't apply to me. Grace is my license to fall away in unbelief and not have a real faith that serves God and not be damned for that unbelief."

Which old Osasers should immediately see is completely and utterly contrary to the old Osas. But few of them seem to see that. That's what I don't understand about the old style Osasers. They should be resisting the new Osas, but they aren't.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

He already admitted having a license to sin!



A very serious charge.....I am sure you can show the audience where I said that....we’ll try to be patient....

new version of OSAS?
new version of OSAS?