new version of OSAS?

[Ferris Bueller]

Once again OSAS DOES NOT TEACH THIS! Repent dude. I am sick of your lies!

He's not lying. YOUR Osas—the old Osas—doesn't teach that. The NEW Osas does teach that. That's what this thread is about—the NEW Osas. You should be completely up in arms about the new Osas. But for some reason you're not.

 

[kcnalp]

He's not lying. YOUR Osas—the old Osas—doesn't teach that. The NEW Osas does teach that. That's what this thread is about—the NEW Osas. You should be completely up in arms about the new Osas. But for some reason you're not.

I was just wondering how many lies OSASers could tell against me and still be saved. I guess an OCEAN of lies is fine with OSAS!

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Why don't you understand that NOBODY here has agreed with you? Not even OSASers. You seem to have your own personal religion.

Why can’t you understand that l DON’T CARE !

If I have a “ Personal Religion”, it’s the same as Paul’s .....it’s called “ TheChurch Of Nothing But The Blood Of Jesus”....... Send us the biggest Sinners in Town.....come and see how the true understanding of the Grace of God can Transform a man’s life....

 

[kcnalp]

Why can’t you understand that l DON’T CARE !

If I have a “ Personal Religion”, it’s the same as Paul’s .....it’s called “ TheChurch Of Nothing But The Blood Of Jesus”....... Send us the biggest Sinners in Town.....come and see how the true understanding of the Grace of God can Transform a man’s life....

So, what is your religion? Islam maybe?

 

[JunChosen]

What I believe Hebrews is speaking of is Rejecting Christ. You know of Him but refuse to accept Him.
That is the only way..in that context...one can go on sinning. For Christ is the end of the law for those who believe. To go on sinning..is to remain under the law.. For anything that is not of faith Is sin, and the law is not of faith.

It is NOT the matter of accepting or rejecting Jesus but, rather, if one is elect/chosen and predestined to salvation in eternity past, before the foundation of the world.

I believe you perceive that once a person is saved he doesn't sin any longer but that is not so. What you don't see is once an individual becomes saved, only in his spirit essence was he saved and not in his body which goes to the ground, and will be raised on the last day with a glorified body to join with his spirit.

I suggest you read Romans Chapter 7 for context as well as 1 Corinthians 15:42-58 for the raising of his body on the last day.

To God Be The Glory

 

[kcnalp]

It is NOT the matter of accepting or rejecting Jesus but, rather, if one is elect/chosen and predestined to salvation in eternity past, before the foundation of the world.

I believe you perceive that once a person is saved he doesn't sin any longer but that is not so. What you don't see is once an individual becomes saved, only in his spirit essence was he saved and not in his body which goes to the ground, and will be raised on the last day with a glorified body to join with his spirit.

I suggest you read Romans Chapter 7 for context as well as 1 Corinthians 15:42-58 for the raising of his body on the last day.

To God Be The Glory

I get it. You can sin your life away and still be an OSASer! But God didn't give you that license to sin. Satan did.

 

[Corlove13]

It is NOT the matter of accepting or rejecting Jesus but, rather, if one is elect/chosen and predestined to salvation in eternity past, before the foundation of the world.

I believe you perceive that once a person is saved he doesn't sin any longer but that is not so. What you don't see is once an individual becomes saved, only in his spirit essence was he saved and not in his body which goes to the ground, and will be raised on the last day with a glorified body to join with his spirit.

I suggest you read Romans Chapter 7 for context as well as 1 Corinthians 15:42-58 for the raising of his body on the last day.

To God Be The Glory

Hi, no..why would you perceive that?

 

[BarneyFife]

No. If you harden yourself in your choice to reject the grace of God that you have received in salvation God does not allow you to come back.

What does this look like in the everyday life of a person? Where does the rubber meet the road? And who actually hardens the heart: God or self? I realize that verses can be trotted out to support your statement, but just as many can be gathered to shore up other positions.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Got to love these people who think either they do not sin or if they do sin it was on accident

Why do you suppose BB, who says we all sin on purpose, including himself, would purposely sin if, as he says, it's like having a Drano enema and sticking his hand in a fire? Do you have an answer for that?

If I gave you a license to have a free Drano enema , would you use it?

I don’t have a “ License to Sin ” .....I don’t want one .....if I had one I would not use it.....Sin to me, now that I have a New Heart, is like sticking my hand in a fire.....now who wants a License to do that ?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

What does this look like in the everyday life of a person?

....a lifestyle of willful, unrepentant, unabashed sin.

Where does the rubber meet the road?

In your behavior.......how you live.

And who actually hardens the heart: God or self?

Both. God will make firm that which we have hardened.

 

[Corlove13]

It is NOT the matter of accepting or rejecting Jesus but, rather, if one is elect/chosen and predestined to salvation in eternity past, before the foundation of the world.

I believe you perceive that once a person is saved he doesn't sin any longer but that is not so. What you don't see is once an individual becomes saved, only in his spirit essence was he saved and not in his body which goes to the ground, and will be raised on the last day with a glorified body to join with his spirit.

I suggest you read Romans Chapter 7 for context as well as 1 Corinthians 15:42-58 for the raising of his body on the last day.

To God Be The Glory

Michiah mentioned Hebrews 10...
And I was explaining what I believe willful sin was in that context. And of course it is about accepting or rejecting......the author of Hebrews....explains that in another passage.

 

[Corlove13]

....a lifestyle of willful, unrepentant, unabashed sin.


In your behavior.......how you live.


Both. God will make firm that which we have hardened.

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

 

[BarneyFife]

Sometimes it really seems like none of us knows what we're talking about.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Why can’t you understand that l DON’T CARE !

If I have a “ Personal Religion”, it’s the same as Paul’s .....it’s called “ TheChurch Of Nothing But The Blood Of Jesus”....... Send us the biggest Sinners in Town.....come and see how the true understanding of the Grace of God can Transform a man’s life....

Transform a man's life into what? Nothing? You teach a transformation that doesn't transform.

You are making it very clear that all you have to have on judgment day is 'nothing but the blood' and you will be saved. Not knowing that 'nothing but the blood', if you really have it, won't be alone. Even Luther, who you love to quote, said this! Did you not know this?

“We are saved by faith alone, but the faith that saves is never alone.”

― Martin Luther

Quote by Martin Luther: “We are saved by faith alone, but the faith that...”


But you say it can be alone. Even Paul, who you say you follow, said the faith that justifies is the faith that is obedient to God—Galatians 5:6.

 

[kcnalp]

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

Wow! Then how do OSASers here tell lie after lie? Oh that's right, they can NEVER lose their salvation, according to them and Satan.

 

[BarneyFife]

Transform a man's life into what? Nothing? You teach a transformation that doesn't transform.

You are making it very clear that all you have to have on judgment day is 'nothing but the blood' and you will be saved. Not knowing that 'nothing but the blood', if you really have it, won't be alone. Even Luther, who you love to quote, said this! Did you not know this?

“We are saved by faith alone, but the faith that saves is never alone.”

― Martin Luther

Quote by Martin Luther: “We are saved by faith alone, but the faith that...”


But you say it can be alone.

Luther is merely paraphrasing Romans 2:13 there.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Sometimes it really seems like none of us knows what we're talking about.

I can tell who knows what they're talking about, and who doesn't.

 

[BarneyFife]

I can tell who knows what they're talking about, and who doesn't.

Must be nice.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Must be nice.

You can tell, too. You're being modest, lol.

 

[BarneyFife]

I can tell who knows what they're talking about, and who doesn't.

It seems to me like many who have one subject nailed down pretty good just go completely off the beam on another.