Eternally Grateful
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2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
Can you tell me here what the bible is not able to do?
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All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
Can you tell me here what the bible is not able to do?
mailmandan
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Typical Roman Catholic sales pitch. It’s the RCC that teaches a counterfeit gospel.
The Catholic Church Teaches Salvation by Works
show me that in the Bible
God alone is the author of religion
God alone is the author of the church
God alone is the author of the new covenant, Christ is the mediator how is that man saying anything???
the church was here first
Your faith alone nonsense came 1500 yrs later so this verse is yours
2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
mailmandan
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Oh the irony and I can see that you bought into the Roman Catholic sales pitch hook, line and sinker.
Christianity is about a relationship with Jesus Christ and not legalistic, religious bondage to false religion/a counterfeit church.Oh the irony and I can see that you bought into the Roman Catholic sales pitch hook, line and sinker.
Christ and His church are one, what Christ did the church continues to do, the church is an extension of Christ!
To attack the church is to attack Christ!
Acts 9:4
What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?
Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!
without religion
Faith and the sacraments you cannot have a relationship
it’s not a bible study
it’s a covenant
1 Corinthians 12:13
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Galatians 3:27
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
mailmandan
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Did you even bother to read the article? BTW James is talking about an empty profession of faith/dead faith that produces no evidential works (James 2:14) hence the “alone.”
mailmandan
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The Church is the body of Christ that is made up of all born again Christians (Colossians 1:18,24) and is not simply a physical building with a name stamped on it. Also, don’t confuse the picture (water baptism) with the reality (Spirit baptism).Attacking a false religion that perverts the gospel is not attacking Christ.
Eternally Grateful
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God alone
Amen. GOD did, Not your pope
The gospel is all about what God did.
The only part man is involved in is making ourselves guilty
Eternally Grateful
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Your right it did
Your church howver did not start until a few centuries after the church was started by CHrist
Eternally Grateful
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It is
So we are saved by the church Not God
Thank you for further showing your issue. You give man far to much credit. You never give God any credit.
The Holy Apostolic Council was wrong about a few things - Luther corrected them.
Ronald Nolette
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And how ios the church an overcomer?
Romans 8:37
King James Version
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
This is for salvation! But as for rewards (crowns) those are conditioned on our obedience and overcoming things in our lives!
do not confuse positional statements with experiential statements.
why does it always have to be an opposition to you
You always oppose the church
The holy church does not usurp Christ’s authority, the holy church establishes it throughout the whole world, and thru all time!
The holy apostles do not usurp Christ’s kingdom, the apostles administer the kingdom for Christ who ascended to heaven!
Ephesians 3:21
Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end. Amen.
Ephesians 5:24
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ...
Christ and His church are one, what Christ did the church continues to do, the church is an extension of Christ!
To attack the church is to attack Christ!
Acts 9:4
What authority does Christ have?
What power does Christ have?
What mission / ministry does Christ have?
Peter, the apostles and their successors have the same authority, power, and mission! Jn 20:21 as my father sent me, even so send I you!
The apostles are Christ’s successors!
They have authority to send others as well, apostle means one who is sent!
What does man have to do with it?
The church is founded by Christ Matt 16:18
Ronald Nolette
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Why are you challenging Jesus and Paul???
Ephesians 2:8-10
King James Version
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.
You are not saved by works or kept saved by works.
John 3:16-18
King James Version
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
The good works we are called to do are the result and an evidence of our already being saved, not something to make us saved or keep us saved! That is another gospel.
Read teh context of James 2. It is about doing good to others! If our faith does not help others it is dead and abiding alone- but don't think for a nanosecond that means that one is not saved. any more than physical death means one is not saved.
We are called unto good works, just not saved by them. A saved person is given a new nature with a new heart and a new mind. they should gorw in good works or "Christian works" as you call them.
But to ask you :
How many good works?
what good works need to be done?
How often?
If a person lapses for a month and does bad works for a month- did they lose their salvation?
If one loses their salvation, do you believe they can get it back again?
I ask these questions in sincerity wanting to know what you have to say.
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