This may be too vague and complicated but I think it would be interesting to know the differences in these cults. Any info appreciated!
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SDA isn’t a cult. They have some unusual beliefs, but aren’t a cult according to Dr. Walter Martin in his book, the kingdom of the cults.This may be too vague and complicated but I think it would be interesting to know the differences in these cults. Any info appreciated!
What do SDA's believe about the deity of Jesus and eternal fire?SDA isn’t a cult. They have some unusual beliefs, but aren’t a cult according to Dr. Walter Martin in his book, the kingdom of the cults.
They are trinitarian.What do SDA's believe about the deity of Jesus and eternal fire?
The word "cult" is misused and abused. It has become just a "boo!" word to throw at any group we disagree with.Christian or Cultic?
So, where does this leave us? Is the SDA a cult or not? I have proposed six tests. The SDA failed all but one of them — the one concerning the identity of Jesus. And there are serious questions about that one.
I am convinced that Walter Martin declassified the SDA as a cult in 1965 because he became convinced that they had an orthodox view of Jesus. To him, that was the acid test. I would agree that it is the most important one, but the group’s perverted concept of the Gospel must be ranked as almost equal in importance because of Paul’s warning in Galatians 1:8-9.
I therefore must conclude that the SDA should be considered a cult until they are willing to repudiate the “Investigative Judgment” doctrine and are willing to clearly state that the Bible, and not the writings of Ellen G. White, is their final authority in all matters.
After I concluded this essay, I decided to contact Dr. Ron Carlson, the man who is considered to be Christendom’s foremost expert on the cults today. I asked him for a statement about the SDA, and this is what he wrote in response:
“As you may know, Walter Martin was my mentor and dear friend for 20 years and spoke at my ordination. I was to have lunch with him the day he died in 1989.
Walter had a real influence on many of the SDA leaders in the 70’s and early 80’s seeking to move them to a Biblical position. Many were, and there was hope for the SDA Church.
What has happened in the last 20 years is that nearly 50% of the SDA pastors and leaders who were seeking to move it to an evangelical position have all been ‘kicked’ out or left the SDA. The people who are now in control have moved the organization back to following the teachings of Ellen G. White and denying some basic doctrines of Biblical Christianity. In fact, their official position is that if you do not worship on Saturday you are not a Christian and will not go to Heaven. Sunday worship is the mark of the beast. They are clearly today a false Cult.”
The Seventh-Day Adventists | Cults | Lamb and Lion Ministries
SDA's that I have come across over the years on multiple Christian forum sites believe the Roman Catholic church changed the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday. The Christian Forums site is crawling with SDA's.SDAs (at least those I have come across on forums) are obsessively anti-Jesuits. They seem to blame Jesuits for everything they think is wrong in the world.
Today must be my day to learn something... this is also very interesting. Waving to the mailman !!!!!SDA's that I have come across over the years on multiple Christian forum sites believe the Roman Catholic church changed the day of worship from Saturday to Sunday.
SDA's teach that near the end of time the "mark of the best" of Revelation 14 will be placed upon those who worship on Sunday instead of Saturday.
I think that those are the guys that have strict dietary observances... I get mixed up between SDA and LDS... ( Latter Day Saints ).SDA's teach a perverted gospel of "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works." Here is an example below from a statement that a SDA once made to me during a discussion I had with him:
Me thinks you have an unstudied bias, when you use the word 'cult' in association with the "SDA" (Seventh-day Adventist), but hey, it's your thread and your prerogative. If you want to start off with a false and unstudied claim, well that is up to you. Never-the-less, I want to share some detailed materials on the subject of Seventh-day Adventists, in which will also have material covering the other groups you mentioned (JW's ... Unitarians and Mormons). I am actually surprised you didn't include the Roman Catholic system and Islam and a few others, like the Moonies, etc.JW's, SDA's, Unitarians and Mormons
This may be too vague and complicated but I think it would be interesting to know the differences in these cults. Any info appreciated!
Any group that denies Jesus is God or eternal fire I consider cults.Me thinks you have an unstudied bias, when you use the word 'cult' in association with the "SDA" (Seventh-day Adventist), but hey, it's your thread and your prerogative. If you want to start off with a false and unstudied claim, well that is up to you. Never-the-less, I want to share some detailed materials on the subject of Seventh-day Adventists, in which will also have material covering the other groups you mentioned (JW's ... Unitarians and Mormons). I am actually surprised you didn't include the Roman Catholic system and Islam and a few others, like the Moonies, etc.
Anyways, here are some links to proper indepth materials for those who actually want to study, and not merely carry on a blatantly false and undocumented smear campaign (these are Seventh-day Adventist links (but carry plenty of non-'SDA' material, like history, things on Creation, science, and even Bible studies by Baptists, etc), lest anyone should say I was 'sneaky'):
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I am Seventh-day Adventist.Any group that denies Jesus is God or eternal fire I consider cults.