Jesus Is Our Truth, Reward, And Faithfulness So We Can Lie, Steal, and Fornicate?

[CharismaticLady]

I've already shown you that betimes Jesus spoke as both God AND man, and the beauty of my religion is that I don't have to ignore this in order to have my points stand.

The God Jesus was there at Sinai speaking into the ears of the people HIS TEN COMMANDMENTS and later, He referred to them as the Father's commandments when speaking incarnate as a man.

Here's a new wrinkle for you: Wasn't Jesus called "the EVERLASTING FATHER"?

In Isa. 9:6, yes I know. But more than that. Wonderful Counselor is the Holy Spirit. So they are all one.

What would you call this (paraphrased, but you know what I mean): "Love God with all your heart, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself?"

There is no wrinkle. He and the Father were one. And all three; the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one. And guess what? Jesus, the Father, the Spirit and I are one. And if you are born again with the seed of the Father, so are you and I one.

John 17:
22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

Here is a side note. The theory that sanctification is accomplished over a lifetime to overcome sin is a doctrine of demons. The truth is the process Christians go through is called glorification, not sanctification.

 

[Phoneman777]

Not as proud as you

And so you are proud. Nailed it.

You nailed nothing, because if I'm "proud", then you are "the king over all the children of pride" like the Leviathan character who is you-know-who animalified, in that you presume we may approach the bargaining table with God with our own terms for surrender, while having nothing in our hand with which to bargain except a lost soul. Your religion is a sham and relies on twisted Scripture and false conclusions in order for it to stand.

It's called the pride of life in 1st John. The pride of things you do carnally in the flesh. This would be religious pride of a carnal commandment.

There's nothing more prideful than claiming what God wrote with His own finger in stone can be brushed aside as easily as you brush aside logic and reason when you approach the Scriptures.

As I've said before. You're spittin made, because the body of Christ doesn't keep your carnal commandment.

Are you trying to spell "m-a-d"? Because your vocabulary seems to be as lacking as your spiritual discernment. But as for "mad", I guess how the flip I am mad when false prophets like yourself lead people to a Christless grave by their false doctrines which claim we may disregard the Ten Commandments. Jesus said if we love Him, we'll keep His Ten Commandments, but YOU claim love replaces them...too bad you don't realize the love you're talking about is love of SIN.

Which is a wonder, since you know you're such a special and elitely proud Sabbath commando.

Well, if you wouldn't be telling everyone that we are free to forget the ONLY commandment which begins with the word "REMEMBER", maybe I wouldn't be so militant about that, right?

If I were talking with someone who said fornication is no big deal, then I would quote any one of the simple Scriptures condemning it, and walk away if the other rejected it as God's law. But, you can't quote any Scriptures of the new testament condemning profaning the Sabbath, because there are none.

And just like that, you've proven that if not for your double standard, you have NO STANDARD at all. Of course, the Bible condemns Sabbath-breaking, the very SAME Sabbath the church is going to observe for all eternity: "It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath." - Hebrews 4:9 Lamsa Peshitta

But, you keep on ignoring Paul's choice of "Sabbatismos" in verse 9 while "Kataposis" was used over and over in the previous verses of chapter 4, so you can sleep at night, OK?

You haven't the first clue about rightly dividing the Word of truth. Like all cult groups, all you know and depend on and cherish is your own special rules to go by, that separate you from all other believers. You, your backslapping compatriots, and especially your really great and grand poo-bah leaders are corrupted with pride, self-righteousness, and condemnation of the guiltless.

Cult? The definition of a Christian "cult" is "a group who DEVIATES FROM THE TEACHINGS OF THE FOUNDER JESUS CHRIST"... the only day Jesus sanctioned as holy is the Sabbath, it's the only day the Scripture identifies as such, and is the only day set aside for us to come before Jesus and worship in the kingdom for all eternity...not a single word authorizing Sunday, my vain Sunday-sanctifying, cult member of the god of this world.

Nonetheless, I've got plenty of notes from you Sabbath-keeping lawyers on your law, and I have gained much good Scripture to confirm the heresy of it, so I am glad.

You've got NOTHING but false theories and twisted ideas.

You know full well we are not at liberty to worship Satan, engage in idolatry, blaspheme, dishonor our parents, kill, take our neighbor's wife, steal, lie, or covet....but you with a strained face and with jaw set and with fists clenched dare to stand in the face of God and tell Him to His face we may disregard the day HE established as His rest day, His day which He sanctified, and His day upon which His weekly blessing rests???? That goes beyond mere pride and is well crossed over into the realm of Satanic insanity.

 

[Phoneman777]

What is the covenant of Ishmael in Galatians 4:22-31 given from Mt. Sinai?
What is the covenant of Isaac of promise?

Ishmael was of the flesh, just like you have to keep the Sabbath day and remember which day, and remember not to work, and remember what is work and what is not. It is the letter of the law, and not of the Spirit.

Romans 14 commands me not to condemn you for keeping the day, but you are not to condemn me either for keeping my rest in Jesus everyday, and treating every physical day alike. Even though I passed the test of 100% of my prayers being answered, you blasphemed and said that Satan can answer prayers, implying that Satan is answering my prayers. You are attributing to Satan what is of God, which is blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Repent.

The context of Romans 14 is the Mosaic Law, not the weekly Sabbath.

Remember when Paul merely told them circumcision and Passover observance was no big deal anymore, and they wanted his head on a charger? And yet, Paul supposedly went around teaching Sabbath ---- the one day that especially made Israel distinct from the rest of the pagan, Satan worshiping, Sunday keeping world ----was done away with without a single word of remonstrance from anyone, right? You can imagine how they would have sounded upon hearing that, right?

"HANGING'S TO GOOD FOR 'IM. BURNING'S TOO GOOD FOR HIM. HE SHOULD BE CHOPPED UP INTO ITSY BITSY PIECES AND BURIED HIM ALIVE".

 

[CharismaticLady]

The context of Romans 14 is the Mosaic Law, not the weekly Sabbath.

Remember when Paul merely told them circumcision and Passover observance was no big deal anymore, and they wanted his head on a charger? And yet, Paul supposedly went around teaching Sabbath ---- the one day that especially made Israel distinct from the rest of the pagan, Satan worshiping, Sunday keeping world ----was done away with without a single word of remonstrance from anyone, right?

HANGING WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO GOOD FOR HIM. BURNING WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO GOOD FOR HIM. THEY WOULD HAVE CHOPPED HIM UP INTO ITSY BITSY PIECES AND BURIED HIM ALIVE.

And what is calling every day alike, like I do? Have you ever thought about that? How is that okay with the Lord, if one of those days was to be kept by the letter of the law? You are not to judge me for that, but you do.

Good night.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

I find it highly peculiar that out of all the admonitions that were written to the churches not once did Paul ever write anything regarding Sabbath keeping.

Are we to believe that this is the ONLY area in which NONE of the churches erred in???

 

[CharismaticLady]

I find it highly peculiar that out of all the admonitions that were written to the churches not once did Paul ever write anything regarding Sabbath keeping.

Are we to believe that this is the ONLY area in which NONE of the churches erred in???

I believe he did in Col. 2:16+, and Romans 14, and Galatians 4:22-31, and 1 Cor. 11:25.

 

[robert derrick]

In Isa. 9:6, yes I know. But more than that. Wonderful Counselor is the Holy Spirit. So they are all one.

What would you call this (paraphrased, but you know what I mean): "Love God with all your heart, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself?"

There is no wrinkle. He and the Father were one. And all three; the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one. And guess what? Jesus, the Father, the Spirit and I are one. And if you are born again with the seed of the Father, so are you and I one.

John 17:
22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

Here is a side note. The theory that sanctification is accomplished over a lifetime to overcome sin is a doctrine of demons. The truth is the process Christians go through is called glorification, not sanctification.

True. 'Progressive sanctification' is a side door for added commandments of men, that demand we obey in order to 'progress' in Christ. That is how proselytizers search out new babes in Christ and start to 'fill them in' on their hidden special rules, such as Sabbath keeping by law.

Here is how it goes: 'Well, you've been coming along nicely. Jesus is good, isn't He? Oh yes! Very good! Well then, Let me ask you a question. Aren't we supposed to be obeying the commandments of God, such as loving our neighbor? Yes. Of course. Well how about some of the other ones, such as 'lie, steal, and fornicate'? Oh no, God forbid! Well then, what about the 4th Commandment which is eternally sacred and untouchable by God and man...."

Or some such tactical rubbish. They wait, until the target is getting in some, before they spring the real deal of their group upon them. You know a cult, when they are defined by one single grand all-or-nothing carnal commandment, that must be physically obeyed before all at prescribed times and places, in order to be approved and accepted.

 

[robert derrick]

I find it highly peculiar that out of all the admonitions that were written to the churches not once did Paul ever write anything regarding Sabbath keeping.

Are we to believe that this is the ONLY area in which NONE of the churches erred in???

Well done. It's seems to be the only commandment that none of the churches nor individual believers ever erred in. I mean, they were so perfect in their Sabbath keeping, that Jesus didn't even need have the apostles write it as a commandment for them to obey.

"Hey Lord, what about the greatest of all commandants, the 4th? No Paul, it looks like everyone's pretty much got that down pat..."

Excellent point. (Wish I'd thought of it. I guess I don't think of everything, like I thought)

Of course, every church errs in it today, which is why God has raised up His latter day Sabbath commandos to correct, chastise, and condemn everyone to hell for not doing it right. Especially the phoney-baloney hypocrites that think they are keeping Sabbath on Sunday! Ha! What rubes...

 

[robert derrick]

Remember when Paul merely told them circumcision and Passover observance was no big deal anymore, and they wanted his head on a charger?

Yes. Those unbelieving Jews were a vengeful lot. Just like their Sabbath-bangers today.

And yet, Paul supposedly went around teaching Sabbath.

Oh yeah, I remember those Scriptures. Or do I? No, I don't. I guess that's why they're not being quoted.

pagan, Satan worshiping, Sunday keeping world.

Oh yeah, the red dragon breathing fire, and the scarlet beast in a huge red-faced huff.

Got to love it, when they show their true colors of red.

A cult is a cult is a cult.

 

[robert derrick]

the Mosaic Law, not the weekly Sabbath

The Mosaic law was a temporary joke. But the weekly Sabbath, now there's an untouchable eternity, if there ever was one.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

I believe he did in Col. 2:16+, and Romans 14, and Galatians 4:22-31, and 1 Cor. 11:25.

I don’t understand your response.

He didn’t admonish anyone for NOT keeping the Sabbath in any of those scriptures you provided.

 

[robert derrick]

There's nothing more prideful than claiming what God wrote with His own finger in stone can be brushed aside as easily as you brush aside logic and reason when you approach the Scriptures.

But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious. (2 Cor 3)

Written and engrave on stones done away.

Well, if you wouldn't be telling everyone that we are free to forget the ONLY commandment which begins with the word "REMEMBER", maybe I wouldn't be so militant about that, right?

Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise) (Eph 6)

Commandment #5, not 4. Also written again for us in the New testament, so still applies to day. Unlike the 4th, that Jesus forgot to write again by His apostles.

the bargaining table with God

God's bargaining table? Is that like a table set up on the Sabbath on Saturday or something? Never heard of it. Some people pick up the silliest 'argument points' from their great leaders.

Jesus said if we love Him, we'll keep His Ten Commandments

If ye love me, keep my commandments. (John 14)

Jesus' commandments are written by His apostles. Never read one of a 'Sabbath'. Did a search engine for 'Ten commandments' written by the apostles to us. Came up empty. But it certainly is in the law of Moses.

"It is therefore the duty of the people of God to keep the Sabbath." - Hebrews 4:9 Lamsa Peshitta

Then let Lamsa and his Peshittas do so.

my vain Sunday-sanctifying, cult member of the god of this world.

I can just hear the holy Lamsa preaching that one on Saturday. Let him know you really laid it out there. You'll get an L-shaped cookie.

Nonetheless, I've got plenty of notes from you Sabbath-keeping lawyers on your law, and I have gained much good Scripture to confirm the heresy of it, so I am glad.
You've got NOTHING but false theories and twisted ideas.

Hey, I was trying to dignify your stuff with loftier language, but if you say it's all false theories and twisted ideas. So be it.

You know full well we are not at liberty to worship Satan, engage in idolatry, blaspheme, dishonor our parents, kill, take our neighbor's wife, steal, lie, or covet....but you with a strained face and with jaw set and with fists clenched dare to stand in the face of God and tell Him to His face we may disregard the day HE established as His rest day, His day which He sanctified, and His day upon which His weekly blessing rests????

Idolatry, blasphemy, dishonoring parents, killing, adultery, stealing, lying, coveting? no.

Saturday Sabbathing? Yes.

We may not do the former, because it is written in the new testament, and we may disregard the latter, not being written in the new testament. Thank you Jesus. (I mean, just look at the kind of people we'd have to hang around and become just like. This guy is only twofold child of hell. God only knows what I would be like as a three-folder)

 

[robert derrick]

But, you keep on ignoring Paul's choice of "Sabbatismos" in verse 9 while "Kataposis" was used over and over in the previous verses of chapter 4, so you can sleep at night, OK?

Finally something real to consider.

So, Hebrews 4 speaks of the day of rest of God, and the day of rest the children of God enter into, which the physical seed did not by reason of unbelief.

And this day of rest, that the unbelieving seed did not enter into, and we as believers in Christ are to labour to enter into is a Sabbath Saturday?

Really? Is that all it takes to enter into that rest? Doesn't sound like much labouring to me. Just don't labour on Saturday, and our labouring to enter in is done!

And that certain limited day to hear His voice and harden not our hearts is Saturday! And since Paul is peaking of our salvation by faith of hearing (Gal 2), then Saturday is the day of our salvation!

I can hardly wait for Saturday, so I can be get saved. I pray God allow me to live until Saturday. And just to think of all those poor lost souls who died on Friday.

But wait, since we are on Jewish calendar of days, shouldn't we be on Jewish calendar of hours? So, if we can just make it to the beginning of the Saturday Sabbath on Friday evening...What hour does that exactly begin? Or is it simply when the sun goes down? But what about dusk? Where's a Saturday Sabbath lawyer when you need one??

This stuff could make your head hurt, but hey, if our salvation depends on it, then hurting head or not, we gotta drive on through it.

Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do... Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. (1 Tim 1)

 

[CharismaticLady]

So, Hebrews 4 speaks of the day of rest of God, and the day of rest the children of God enter into, which the physical seed did not by reason of unbelief.

The context of Hebrews 4 is the previous chapter. Today, is today, and everyday.

Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; 13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 14 For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, 15 while it is said:

“Today, if you will hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.”

 

[ChristisGod]

Here is a side note. The theory that sanctification is accomplished over a lifetime to overcome sin is a doctrine of demons. The truth is the process Christians go through is called glorification, not sanctification.

Why do you like to make things up out of thin air that are not found in Scripture ?

There is a past, present and future aspect to sanctification. You should be more careful what you say and try to teach others.

1 Corinthians 1:30
“From him [God] we are in Christ Jesus, who has become wisdom to us from God, our righteousness and sanctification and redemption.”

Hebrews 12:14
Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.

Ephesians 5:25-27
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church [q]in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.

1 Thessalonians 3:12-13
to the establishing your hearts blameless in sanctification before our God and Father, in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

Strong's Concordance
hagiasmos: consecration, sanctification
Original Word: ἁγιασμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: hagiasmos
Phonetic Spelling: (hag-ee-as-mos')
Definition: consecration, sanctification
Usage: the process of making or becoming holy, set apart, sanctification, holiness, consecration.

HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 38 hagiasmós (a masculine noun derived from 40 /hágios, "holy") – sanctification (the process of advancing in holiness); use of the believer being progressively transformed by the Lord into His likeness (similarity of nature). See 40 /hagios ("holy").

We are to live holy in this present life and below we read there is a past, present and future aspect to our sanctification.

1 Corinthians 1:30
“From him we are in Christ Jesus, who has become wisdom to us from God, our righteousness and sanctification and redemption.”

Hebrews 12:14
Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.

Ephesians 5:25-27
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church q]">[q]in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.

1 Thessalonians 3:12-13
to the establishing your hearts blameless in sanctification before our God and Father, in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1 Thessalonians 4:3 N-NMS
GRK: θεοῦ ὁ ἁγιασμὸς ὑμῶν ἀπέχεσθαι
NAS: of God, your sanctification; [that is], that you abstain
KJV: [even] your sanctification, that ye
INT: of God the sanctification of you to abstain

1 Thessalonians 4:4 N-DMS
GRK: κτᾶσθαι ἐν ἁγιασμῷ καὶ τιμῇ
NAS: vessel in sanctification and honor,
KJV: vessel in sanctification and honour;
INT: to possess in holiness and honor

1 Thessalonians 4:7 N-DMS
GRK: ἀλλ' ἐν ἁγιασμῷ
NAS: us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification.
KJV: but unto holiness.
INT: but in sanctification

2 Thessalonians 2:13 N-DMS
GRK: σωτηρίαν ἐν ἁγιασμῷ πνεύματος καὶ
NAS: through sanctification by the Spirit
KJV: through sanctification of the Spirit
INT: salvation in sanctification of [the] Spirit and

1 Timothy 2:15 N-DMS
GRK: ἀγάπῃ καὶ ἁγιασμῷ μετὰ σωφροσύνης
NAS: and love and sanctity with self-restraint.
KJV: charity and holiness with sobriety.
INT: love and sanctification with self-restraint

Hebrews 12:14 N-AMS
GRK: καὶ τὸν ἁγιασμόν οὗ χωρὶς
NAS: with all men, and the sanctification without
KJV: all [men], and holiness, without which
INT: and the holiness which apart from

1 Peter 1:2 N-DMS
GRK: πατρός ἐν ἁγιασμῷ πνεύματος εἰς
NAS: the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit,
KJV: through sanctification of the Spirit,
INT: [the] Father by sanctification of [the] Spirit unto

hope this helps !!!

 

[CharismaticLady]

Why do you like to make things up out of thin air that are not found in Scripture ?

There is a past, present and future aspect to sanctification. You should be more careful what you say and try to teach others.

1 Corinthians 1:30
“From him [God] we are in Christ Jesus, who has become wisdom to us from God, our righteousness and sanctification and redemption.”

Hebrews 12:14
Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.

Ephesians 5:25-27
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church [q]in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.

1 Thessalonians 3:12-13
to the establishing your hearts blameless in sanctification before our God and Father, in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

Strong's Concordance
hagiasmos: consecration, sanctification
Original Word: ἁγιασμός, οῦ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: hagiasmos
Phonetic Spelling: (hag-ee-as-mos')
Definition: consecration, sanctification
Usage: the process of making or becoming holy, set apart, sanctification, holiness, consecration.

HELPS Word-studies
Cognate: 38 hagiasmós (a masculine noun derived from 40 /hágios, "holy") – sanctification (the process of advancing in holiness); use of the believer being progressively transformed by the Lord into His likeness (similarity of nature). See 40 /hagios ("holy").

We are to live holy in this present life and below we read there is a past, present and future aspect to our sanctification.

1 Corinthians 1:30
“From him we are in Christ Jesus, who has become wisdom to us from God, our righteousness and sanctification and redemption.”

Hebrews 12:14
Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord.

Ephesians 5:25-27
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, 26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, 27 that He might present to Himself the church q]">[q]in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.

1 Thessalonians 3:12-13
to the establishing your hearts blameless in sanctification before our God and Father, in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.

1 Thessalonians 4:3 N-NMS
GRK: θεοῦ ὁ ἁγιασμὸς ὑμῶν ἀπέχεσθαι
NAS: of God, your sanctification; [that is], that you abstain
KJV: [even] your sanctification, that ye
INT: of God the sanctification of you to abstain

1 Thessalonians 4:4 N-DMS
GRK: κτᾶσθαι ἐν ἁγιασμῷ καὶ τιμῇ
NAS: vessel in sanctification and honor,
KJV: vessel in sanctification and honour;
INT: to possess in holiness and honor

1 Thessalonians 4:7 N-DMS
GRK: ἀλλ' ἐν ἁγιασμῷ
NAS: us for the purpose of impurity, but in sanctification.
KJV: but unto holiness.
INT: but in sanctification

2 Thessalonians 2:13 N-DMS
GRK: σωτηρίαν ἐν ἁγιασμῷ πνεύματος καὶ
NAS: through sanctification by the Spirit
KJV: through sanctification of the Spirit
INT: salvation in sanctification of [the] Spirit and

1 Timothy 2:15 N-DMS
GRK: ἀγάπῃ καὶ ἁγιασμῷ μετὰ σωφροσύνης
NAS: and love and sanctity with self-restraint.
KJV: charity and holiness with sobriety.
INT: love and sanctification with self-restraint

Hebrews 12:14 N-AMS
GRK: καὶ τὸν ἁγιασμόν οὗ χωρὶς
NAS: with all men, and the sanctification without
KJV: all [men], and holiness, without which
INT: and the holiness which apart from

1 Peter 1:2 N-DMS
GRK: πατρός ἐν ἁγιασμῷ πνεύματος εἰς
NAS: the Father, by the sanctifying work of the Spirit,
KJV: through sanctification of the Spirit,
INT: [the] Father by sanctification of [the] Spirit unto

hope this helps !!!

That is interesting that your Hebrews 12:14 says "sanctification" and mine says "holiness."

I also find it interesting that that is where you think you get your past, present and future heresy.

 

[ChristisGod]

That is interesting that your Hebrews 12:14 says "sanctification" and mine says "holiness."

I also find it interesting that that is where you get your past, present and future heresy.

The heresies all all yours on this forum and the other one. Just as there is a past, present and future aspect to salvation and eternal life there is the same aspects with our sanctification as demonstrated for the scriptures I posted. Its not my fault you hold your ideas above Gods inspired word. I stick with Scripture over me personal feelings on topics. You place your feelings and experience above scripture. That is the difference between you and I. You have a high view of self whereas I have a high view of scripture over self. Feelings are deceiving and so are emotions.

hope this helps !!!

 

[CharismaticLady]

The heresies all all yours on this forum and the other one. Just as there is a past, present and future aspect to salvation and eternal life there is the same aspects with our sanctification as demonstrated for the scriptures I posted. Its not my fault you hold your ideas above Gods inspired word. I stick with Scripture over me personal feelings on topics. You place your feelings and experience above scripture. That is the difference between you and I. You have a high view of self whereas I have a high view of scripture over self. Feelings are deceiving and so are emotions.

hope this helps !!!

C, I'm not doing this with you again. I actually obey Hebrews 12:14, and I remember you well and your ugly spirit. So to pursue peace with all men, the first part of that verse you ignore, I'm putting you on ignore.

 

[ChristisGod]

C, I'm not doing this with you again. I remember you well and your ugly spirit. I'm putting you on ignore this time.

Thank you that is such a blessing !

And you still deny you sin by making an ad hominem attack.

You just sinned and broke a command with your unwholesome and unloving words. You dishonored me and are keeping score with a bitter and unforgiving spirit.

Ephesians 4:29
Let no unwholesome word come out of your mouth, but if there is any good word for edification according to the need of the moment, say that, so that it will give grace to those who hear.

Colossians 4:6
Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt

1 Corinthians 13
Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs

so much for sinless perfection.

 

[ChristisGod]

Well done. It's seems to be the only commandment that none of the churches nor individual believers ever erred in. I mean, they were so perfect in their Sabbath keeping, that Jesus didn't even need have the apostles write it as a commandment for them to obey.

"Hey Lord, what about the greatest of all commandants, the 4th? No Paul, it looks like everyone's pretty much got that down pat..."

Excellent point. (Wish I'd thought of it. I guess I don't think of everything, like I thought)

Of course, every church errs in it today, which is why God has raised up His latter day Sabbath commandos to correct, chastise, and condemn everyone to hell for not doing it right. Especially the phoney-baloney hypocrites that think they are keeping Sabbath on Sunday! Ha! What rubes...

Colossians 2:16-17
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ.