Corruption By Knowledge

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24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? - Romans 7:24.

Take Adam and Eve for instance I believe they did not even know they had a body. Really wasn't necessary anyway because they were innocent, no nature of any kind. Until they partook of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil they were not aware they even had a body.



When that mind of Adam and Eve became a; joined together body, it became the body of death. Once the realization they were in a body now - there has been a mismatch - trouble hell on earth whatever you can call it it exists in plain sight for all to see we have a chaotic world craziness exists in this world, ever since that day.



That day the Commandment given by God not to eat from this tree and that command was disobeyed according to Romans 7 and this world has been in a tailspin ever since and since that day the body of death came into being those bodies at knew know death - now death ruled and reigned by one man - even Adam, Romans 5.



Adam was not deceived, the woman was - which means he had to violate the knowledge he had in order to disobey what God had told him not to do.



In that dispensation of Innocence ( man's label ) Adam and Eve did not know who God was; meaning they walked in the cool of the day, they communicated they had fellowship so to say - whatever it was, they did not realize God had created them, they did not realize they had a body.



Adam and Eve had never seen death. Nothing around them ever died. Whatever was in their little world, they had never experienced death not even a bug - no other creature. Even with the knowledge of Good and Evil, they had never experienced death. So the moment their eyes opened up, we can see they didn't even know death had came to them all they knew was they were in a body and that body was naked and they were ashamed! and God covered them. They didn't even know the knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam and Eve were innocent and by the corruption of one, now corruption of all. The seed of corruption; that corruptible seed Peter says has entered into this world and by it sin evil exposed as sin.



How was Eve deceived by the serpent? Answer is; she didn't know who the devil was she had never experienced death - lieing - deception. Adam and Eve didn't even know what death was, they were innocent victims, taken advantage of by that innocence. The liar from the beginning - the murderer from the beginning, was now in that corruptible seed by knowledge. Even the knowledge of Good and Evil.



Neither one had any concept of God or the devil they were innocent. Do you know what the law does? it revealed sin - it didn't reveal God it revealed sin.



The woman was deceived, do you have any understanding on why the woman was deceived - I didn't know for years! it is a recent revelation that the serpent Satan - Lucifer himself went after the woman because he was after the seed if he could corrupt the seed then all Humanity would be corrupted by that one seed. By Adam now; sin entered into the world by one man Adam, sin entered into the world simply by deception. Have you noticed that the - deceiving lieing seed still exists in humanity and in the born again. In all of creation, that lieing deceiving seed still exists.



Be it the mind in born-again believers - but that seed was planted, and by that seed you and I have to deal with now as believers. It is the old mind syndrome of the corrupted seed by the knowledge of Good and Evil.



So the more you know about the law the more you are going to sin

The law is a stumbling block! how does that work? because you are so sin conscience struggling wrestling fighting with the law that Christ has no chance Christ in you does not have a chance in you. Under the law you have to watch everything you do even your thoughts you have to guard everything you do the law exposed sin - when exposed to sin you will sin - according to the scriptures - that is why the law came into existence to expose sin. Moses gives the great sermon when he came down from Mount Zion because now sin could be exposed. Moses; the Ten Commandments were brought down out of the mountain to expose sin. The great message of Moses but the greater the greatest the greatest of all Paul delivers to the humanity and born again Christ in you the hope of glory the destroyer, annihilator, emancipator - of that corruptible seed. Glory to Jesus - Glory to God - Glory to the Spirit of God for revealing it now for all creation to see - it has been written for all to see, sin has been exposed. By the Spirit; you shall know.



So you must know the mind must be renewed; because without the unrenewed mind, that body is still death by knowledge- the knowledge of Good and Evil. Bless you saints - open your mind's eye to the things of God. Allow this mind be in you, allow the Spirit to teach you. You have no need that any man should teach you.
 
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How was Eve deceived by the serpent? Answer is; she didn't know who the devil was...
But she knew he was lying to her by perverting what God had said. And Eve knew exactly what God had said. She chose to be deceived because she was willing to taste that fruit: And when the woman saw that [1] the tree was good for food, and that [2] it was pleasant to the eyes, and [3] a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

So here we see the three lusts in action: (1) the lust of the flesh, (2) the lust of the eyes, and (3) the pride of life.

Many people choose to be deceived. We see this in the whole Coronavirus Scam.
 

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But she knew he was lying to her by perverting what God had said. And Eve knew exactly what God had said. She chose to be deceived because she was willing to taste that fruit: And when the woman saw that [1] the tree was good for food, and that [2] it was pleasant to the eyes, and [3] a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

So here we see the three lusts in action: (1) the lust of the flesh, (2) the lust of the eyes, and (3) the pride of life.

Many people choose to be deceived. We see this in the whole Coronavirus Scam.
Scamdemic. Plandemic.
 

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Take Adam and Eve for instance I believe they did not even know they had a body.
Since they would have had human bodily functions, how would they not know they had bodies?
As much as most humans do not even know they have a spirit.

What we are is consciousness. Both body and spirit have access to consciousness. Either one does not recognize the other, for both are different. The body is of matter, while the spirit is Uncreated Light.

Consciousness uses the body as a vehicle of expression. Both body and spirit have access to consciousness. However, the body-mind is fear-based and as a result is conditional. The spirit-mind is love-based (truth) and is unconditional. The spirit-mind remains dormant while the body-mind is being self-will-run-riot. The only time spirit-mind comes to consciousness is when body-mind humbles itself ('Be still, and know that I am God;..." Psalm 46:10). Only then will the Truth comes to consciousness...And the body-mind knows the Truth did not come from self (body-mind).
 

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As much as most humans do not even know they have a spirit.

What we are is consciousness. Both body and spirit have access to consciousness. Either one does not recognize the other, for both are different. The body is of matter, while the spirit is Uncreated Light.

Consciousness uses the body as a vehicle of expression. Both body and spirit have access to consciousness. However, the body-mind is fear-based and as a result is conditional. The spirit-mind is love-based (truth) and is unconditional. The spirit-mind remains dormant while the body-mind is being self-will-run-riot. The only time spirit-mind comes to consciousness is when body-mind humbles itself ('Be still, and know that I am God;..." Psalm 46:10). Only then will the Truth comes to consciousness...And the body-mind knows the Truth did not come from self (body-mind).

Thank you. I know I started it with speculate somewhat based on what I understand but I was going to get to a point in the message. But that goes over like a lead balloon lol. People love to trol and spout off I get it I do it too I can take it. If someone doesnt even give something a thought just start popping off then I pay no attention. It's just internet fodder no rhyme no reason just mouth. I say they didn't know they had a body because of their innocence. Answer you get is; they had to know because they had to use the bathroom lol unbelievable but funny.
 
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Thank you. I know I started it with speculate somewhat based on what I understand but I was going to get to a point in the message. But that goes over like a lead balloon lol. People love to trol and spout off I get it I do it too I can take it. If someone doesnt even give something a thought just start popping off then I pay no attention. It's just internet fodder no rhyme no reason just mouth. I say they didn't know they had a body because of their innocence. Answer you get is; they had to know because they had to use the bathroom lol unbelievable but funny.
When everything was very good as God made, was there any need to eliminate garbage or waste? Was it not only with that first consumption of garbage by believing and acting on a lie that elimination of wastes became necessary? Before that all was very good and remained so until men corrupted the very good!
 
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Take Adam and Eve for instance I believe they did not even know they had a body. Really wasn't necessary anyway because they were innocent, no nature of any kind. Until they partook of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil they were not aware they even had a body.
Although Adam did say, bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh, that would be his body?

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The law is a stumbling block! how does that work? because you are so sin conscience struggling wrestling fighting with the law that Christ has no chance Christ in you does not have a chance in you. Under the law you have to watch everything you do even your thoughts you have to guard everything you do the law exposed sin - when exposed to sin you will sin - according to the scriptures - that is why the law came into existence to expose sin. Moses gives the great sermon when he came down from Mount Zion because now sin could be exposed. Moses; the Ten Commandments were brought down out of the mountain to expose sin. The great message of Moses but the greater the greatest the greatest of all Paul delivers to the humanity and born again Christ in you the hope of glory the destroyer, annihilator, emancipator - of that corruptible seed. Glory to Jesus - Glory to God - Glory to the Spirit of God for revealing it now for all creation to see - it has been written for all to see, sin has been exposed. By the Spirit; you shall know.



So you must know the mind must be renewed;
A return to innocence.

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Talking about waste.

God made humans with internal structures such as brains, ribs, taste, eyes,...including a digestive system. The human body is nothing but a vehicle for expression of consciousness. The driver, good or bad, still needs to fuel the vehicle, and like all vehicles have fuel waste.

The spirit also is fueled by God's Grace and Will (power). It too can be wasted by straying away from God's will by choosing to run on self-will.
God gave humans the power of choice. The power to choose what names to give to life forms; power to choose to not eat from the Tree of Knowledge, and the power to choose differently.

To choose to not follow God's will is an exploitive decision for the benefit of the body and/or mind (mind, the byproduct of brain[body] activity). The mental belief that some name is better than another, or fruit is better than another, is a mind with doubts. The mind has divided between good and bad. Doubt is a fear of getting it wrong, or missing out on a bad choice. It is the ego-mind which fears error. Fear, regardless how subtle it may be, runs on ego-mind and it lacks faith. At this point, the human is running on earthly energies only and the spiritual energy starts to atrophy (waste away).
 

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And Eve knew exactly what God had said.
I think this is a common but unproveable assumption. We know what God told Adam, but we don't have a record of what anyone had told Eve.

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...but we don't have a record of what anyone had told Eve.
Did you ever hear the term "implied"? Well from the words of Eve it is implied that she knew exactly what Adam had been told. And do you imagine that Adam would have neglected to tell her the ONE serious commandment which God had given him?

So let's look at the words of Eve: We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

What we see here is that (1) Eve knew exactly what God had said, (2) yet she MODIFIED God's words because she was hankering after the forbidden fruit. How did she modify the words of God.

1. She failed to say "of every tree of the garden" and instead said "of the fruit of the trees of the garden" (obfuscation)
2. She called the tree of the knowledge of good and evil "the tree which is in the midst of the garden". (obfuscation)

3. She added to God's words with "neither shall ye touch it".
4. She changed "Ye shall surely die" (guaranteed) to "lest ye die" (perhaps you might die). (obfuscation)

The problem with too many Christian today is that they refuse to believe anything that is implied. They demand explicit statements, which gives them an out. If there is no explicit statement, it means that the truth does not exist. Well God will not accept such reasoning.