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When you say "This is not an explicit teaching in the Bible." Then continue with your opinion just what are non-catholics suppose to think?
1 its not a biblical teaching
2 its your opion
3 its your attempt to encourage people to step outside of go beyond what the Apostles taught.
4 this kind of extra non biblical acceptance is necessary to believe catholic doctrine.

What your really doing is encouraging other people to follow another mans opinions outside the biblical context of the Apostles and Jesus. I'll point out to others that this is a necessary first step in accepting catholic teachings, They believe the bible is incomplete and Catholics believe they hold extra biblical truths.
Looks to me like this has been your MOA for a while. When your faced with opposition or get exposed you try to turn it around, so you look like your the innocent victim of a deliberate attempt to discredit you, Accuse you. The opening sentence of your thread here. One of the main roles of the Devil is that of Accuser. If you would quit teaching non biblical doctrine or trying to add to biblical doctrine you wouldn't have people here pointing that out to you. Your not a victim you ask for it over and over again with our teachings.

I find it amazing that Hammerstone allows people to openly question or teach others to ponder or consider extra biblical teachings. Your "hell is Gods mercy thread", Just makes me shake my head and wonder why your allowed to even post such nonsense, let alone a thread topic. This thread is simply your attempt to continue the division. You know as well I do you started this thread after abandoning the conversation in in the "word of God thread". you started this thread feb 25th 7:16 pm look at the conversation in the Word of God thread. You abandoned it just before Hammerstone came in. So you started over here.


Its the same old song and dance, you try to sell a bill of goods that allows you to play the victim. Anyone that disagrees with you is called the accuser = the devils work. Opening sentence again. One of the main roles of the Devil is that of Accuser.
Nomad went threw your first post, point by point indicating its not scriptural. Your the one that insist on repeating the same game over and over. Its a Christians job to expose it for what it is. In reality this thread is an attempt to silence those voices. I can only hope the people that sponsor this site see it for what it is. I don't like having to defend Gods word on a Christian forum any more than people like reading an on going difference of fundamentals about what the word of Gods is. To most here its the bible, its the standard. You IMO would like to remove that basic precept. Last night you tried to take this topic into a new thread "camels and needles" until I called you out about it. I believe my post added to the topic, yours were directed towards me.




One of the main roles
of the Devil is that of Accuser. He will stand against humanity at the last judgement. The Pharisees shared this characteristic with the Devil; there main means of attack against Jesus was to try and trip Him up with the Law. Of course, the Pharisee's knew the law backwards and forwards and used it not to edify, but condemn. Jesus came to reclaim the Law, because the Law is actually good if used to edify and viewed through the lens of love. When the Pharisees cornered Jesus and tried to accuse Him of heresy for not following the law, Jesus answered brilliantly that the law (Sabbath - in the case of the parable) was created for man, not man for the law. The law is supposed to lead us back to our true nature - before the Fall - not condemn us. It was Jesus that gave us the perfect understanding of the law when He combined it with love. The Devil on the other hand, is still active and desperately wants us to ignore Jesus and misuse the law like his Pharisee did. It is his idea for us to use the law to accuse and condemn as many people as possible - twisting our hearts with envy, anger, hatred, and bitterness. The result of using the law to condemn is to resist Jesus' sanctifying work and to instead prepare the heart for the Pit. Citizens of Hell will have two main characteristics - they will feel cheated (bitterness) and the will feel completely and utterly alone ("I AM the only one I can trust").


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Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Messiah. For the accuser of our brothers and sisters, who accuses them before our God day and night, has been hurled down.[/font]

As Christians, it is common to fall back into the trap of accusing others - trying to trip them up. Unfortunately, this is part of the Old Man / Ego / False Self / World Persona that we are called to throw off. I know I have been guilty of it, but now that I recognize the tendency, I realize that accusing others / mocking / scoffing / dismissing / name calling are all works of the Devil and have no place in a heart that desires to be sanctified in love.

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So you are not claiming that I am saying that our inner voice is the same as God? If this is true then I apologize.

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When you said: "If we listen and obey His quiet, convicting, loving voice, we will realize that He is actually using our own voice to convict ourselves!" And then I replied back with: "God's voice is not simply our own voice, as you say. Unless of course you hear your own voice repeating to you the words of God, the words of God from the Bible." I was thinking about times you say things that don't agree with the Bible, like your beliefs about statues, and the Pharaoh, and displaying decayed bodies, and other Catholic practices. See, I'm just making the point that we can't just say God told us something---if it contradicts what is written in the Bible.

And, Robbie, you say Jesus contradicts some things in the Old Testament. Jesus is the Word of God. Don't know how you can easily say Jesus contradicts himself.
 

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When you say "This is not an explicit teaching in the Bible." Then continue with your opinion just what are non-catholics suppose to think?
1 its not a biblical teaching
2 its your opion
3 its your attempt to encourage people to step outside of go beyond what the Apostles taught.
4 this kind of extra non biblical acceptance is necessary to believe catholic doctrine.

What your really doing is encouraging other people to follow another mans opinions outside the biblical context of the Apostles and Jesus. I'll point out to others that this is a necessary first step in accepting catholic teachings, They believe the bible is incomplete and Catholics believe they hold extra biblical truths.
Looks to me like this has been your MOA for a while. When your faced with opposition or get exposed you try to turn it around, so you look like your the innocent victim of a deliberate attempt to discredit you, Accuse you. The opening sentence of your thread here. One of the main roles of the Devil is that of Accuser. If you would quit teaching non biblical doctrine or trying to add to biblical doctrine you wouldn't have people here pointing that out to you. Your not a victim you ask for it over and over again with our teachings.

I find it amazing that Hammerstone allows people to openly question or teach others to ponder or consider extra biblical teachings. Your "hell is Gods mercy thread", Just makes me shake my head and wonder why your allowed to even post such nonsense, let alone a thread topic. This thread is simply your attempt to continue the division. You know as well I do you started this thread after abandoning the conversation in in the "word of God thread". you started this thread feb 25th 7:16 pm look at the conversation in the Word of God thread. You abandoned it just before Hammerstone came in. So you started over here.


Its the same old song and dance, you try to sell a bill of goods that allows you to play the victim. Anyone that disagrees with you is called the accuser = the devils work. Opening sentence again. One of the main roles of the Devil is that of Accuser.
Nomad went threw your first post, point by point indicating its not scriptural. Your the one that insist on repeating the same game over and over. Its a Christians job to expose it for what it is. In reality this thread is an attempt to silence those voices. I can only hope the people that sponsor this site see it for what it is. I don't like having to defend Gods word on a Christian forum any more than people like reading an on going difference of fundamentals about what the word of Gods is. To most here its the bible, its the standard. You IMO would like to remove that basic precept. Last night you tried to take this topic into a new thread "camels and needles" until I called you out about it. I believe my post added to the topic, yours were directed towards me.

Jacob,


I am not sure where we are supposed to go from here. Based on your post on the Camel / Needle thread, I am vindictive "I think your comment to me is all about the bad taste I left in your mouth" and I pick fights with you "are you going to insite another argument with me" and that I enjoy talking with you because I like to fight "your fighting spirit" and finally that my attitude is poor and I am following you around disrupting other threads "You don't have to drag your bad attitude into this thread as well ". Now, I have no intention of picking on you or fighting with you so if you feel like the questions I have asked or my attempts to have you define the words you use and describe the new age gurus you are comparing me to as fighting with you, I want no part of it.


I have tolerated the name calling and the slander and your refusal to answer questions about your own posts - I even listened to you when you took the high road on the other thread; but I see no need to continue our discussions if you are also going to play the victim. Please do not bother being defensive about this -your record is in print for everyone to see.


Now, if you would like to have a civil discussion without all the drama - let me know. If not, don't expect anymore discussion from me.

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When you said: "If we listen and obey His quiet, convicting, loving voice, we will realize that He is actually using our own voice to convict ourselves!" And then I replied back with: "God's voice is not simply our own voice, as you say. Unless of course you hear your own voice repeating to you the words of God, the words of God from the Bible." I was thinking about times you say things that don't agree with the Bible, like your beliefs about statues, and the Pharaoh, and displaying decayed bodies, and other Catholic practices. See, I'm just making the point that we can't just say God told us something---if it contradicts what is written in the Bible.

And, Robbie, you say Jesus contradicts some things in the Old Testament. Jesus is the Word of God. Don't know how you can easily say Jesus contradicts himself.


That makes sense - I completely disagree with you, but at least I understand what you are saying.

 

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That makes sense - I completely disagree with you, but at least I understand what you are saying.


You disagree with me about saying we can't say God told us something, when that something contradicts what He says to us in the scriptures???
 

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Jacob,
I am not sure where we are supposed to go from here. Based on your post on the Camel / Needle thread, I am vindictive

Playing I'm innocent card is hardly reflected in your first reply of the Camel Needle thread.

Time stamp Feb 27 1:38 AM
So Jacob - now that I know you do not allow yourself to think about Bible verses - just memorize them and take them literally; what do you think about australia's commentary on the camel/needle analogy? Seems to mean that it took some thought - in fact, to take the verse literally provides a completely different understanding - what seems impossible is actually possible, but more difficult. Perhaps just opening the Bible and memorizing the verse might not be the best option?

You posted the "above" in the camel needle thread 7 minutes after you posted the reply "below" from the first page of the devils work. Your reply to my pointing out your oxymoron statement see below. Yes its pretty clear you didn't like it. You then took it to the Camel needle thread.
Its pretty easy for an observer to see your statement below So, let me get this right; you are claiming that it is narcissistic to have personal thoughts?
And brought it with you to the other thread, So Jacob - now that I know you do not allow yourself to think about Bible verses

Personal thoughts? not allowing my self to think about bible verses? A connection with out a doubt. Only 7 min difference as well.

http://www.christian...post__p__102386
7 minutes differance in time stamps.
So, let me get this right; you are claiming that it is narcissistic to have personal thoughts? Wow! I have to say, I do not think I have ever heard a more anti-intellectual idea in my life...

I have so many questions for you

Do you know what Narcissism is?


Have you ever read anything from Eckhart Tolle?


Do you know what the serpent tempted Eve with concerning the fruit in the Garden? That she would be like God....remember? So wouldn't it follow that unredeemed souls would still be under the illusion that they are god? Especially since they only follow their own desires, not God's? And where are unredeemed souls going to end up, Jacob? Hell. Therefore, is it such a leap in logic to make the statement that citizens of Hell will believe they are their own gods? I think it is quite reasonable.

Are you afraid of your own thoughts?
Do you know the meaning of explicit and implicit?
Do you read commentaries on the Bible?
Do you think about what you are reading in the Bible or do you simply repeat verses?
Do you believe it is sinful to have any skills besides memorization of scripture?
Do you only pray scripture to God? Your own thoughts must be evil, right?
Do you even understand what Tolle was saying on Oprah?
Do you know what makes Tolle's theology unchristian, besides some guy on youtube telling you to watch out?
Do you read the Bible in it's original language? If you do not, you are trusting the commentary of the translator.
Do you actually think that you can possess truth in it's pure form or are you a human being who can only comment on truth? If you believe you can posses truth - you are the person play God, not me.

Make sure you only answer me with verses from the Bible from now on - I am not interested in your evil thoughts.....unbelievable.

Before you compare me to Eckhart Tolle - I think you better understand what he is teaching.


What this all means is your distorting the truth about the chain of events. You are quoting my third post below. And yes you were following me. and I am following you around disrupting other threads As everyone can see now, from your account of the events "below" you have a way of twisting the facts to suit your personal desire. The question is do you do the same when speaking about God, or your personal interpretation. Well thats what its all about isn't it.
Jacob,

I am not sure where we are supposed to go from here. Based on your post on the Camel / Needle thread, I am vindictive "I think your comment to me is all about the bad taste I left in your mouth" and I pick fights with you "are you going to insite another argument with me" and that I enjoy talking with you because I like to fight "your fighting spirit" and finally that my attitude is poor and I am following you around disrupting other threads "You don't have to drag your bad attitude into this thread as well ". Now, I have no intention of picking on you or fighting with you so if you feel like the questions I have asked or my attempts to have you define the words you use and describe the new age gurus you are comparing me to as fighting with you, I want no part of it.

 

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You disagree with me about saying we can't say God told us something, when that something contradicts what He says to us in the scriptures???


No - I agree with that part - I disagree with your examples. I would have agreed if you used examples like sola scriptura or private interpretation of the scriptures.



Playing I'm innocent card is hardly reflected in your first reply of the Camel Needle thread.

Time stamp Feb 27 1:38 AM


You posted the "above" in the camel needle thread 7 minutes after you posted the reply "below" from the first page of the devils work. Your reply to my pointing out your oxymoron statement see below. Yes its pretty clear you didn't like it. You then took it to the Camel needle thread.
Its pretty easy for an observer to see your statement below So, let me get this right; you are claiming that it is narcissistic to have personal thoughts?
And brought it with you to the other thread, So Jacob - now that I know you do not allow yourself to think about Bible verses

Personal thoughts? not allowing my self to think about bible verses? A connection with out a doubt. Only 7 min difference as well.

http://www.christian...post__p__102386
7 minutes differance in time stamps.



What this all means is your distorting the truth about the chain of events. You are quoting my third post below. And yes you were following me. and I am following you around disrupting other threads As everyone can see now, from your account of the events "below" you have a way of twisting the facts to suit your personal desire. The question is do you do the same when speaking about God, or your personal interpretation. Well thats what its all about isn't it.

Goodbye Jacob and God Bless!
 

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Anastacia,

A lot of people have told me opinions about the bible that I don't agree with ranging anywhere from it's the only way God can talk to us to it's just a book of made up stories written by smart men... also the people who have told me such things range anywhere from christians to atheists... I believe that me believing either extreme would kill my relationship with God... whether it be that I believe the only way God could talk to me was through a book and in so doing denying the Spirit and the direct access I now have to the Father or whether it be not believing that the testimonies to Jesus in the bible were true because I believed they were made up by smart men. You can call my talk about the subject evil if you want... I'm not going to defend myself nore judge you back... and besides I'm getting kind of used to insults from you and Jacob... I actually don't really even know what to say to either of you guys other than I hope you guys are both truly blessed...

Also... Jesus isn't a book... He is the living Word of God...
 

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Anastacia,

A lot of people have told me opinions about the bible that I don't agree with ranging anywhere from it's the only way God can talk to us to it's just a book of made up stories written by smart men... also the people who have told me such things range anywhere from christians to atheists... I believe that me believing either extreme would kill my relationship with God... whether it be that I believe the only way God could talk to me was through a book and in so doing denying the Spirit and the direct access I now have to the Father or whether it be not believing that the testimonies to Jesus in the bible were true because I believed they were made up by smart men. You can call my talk about the subject evil if you want... I'm not going to defend myself nore judge you back... and besides I'm getting kind of used to insults from you and Jacob... I actually don't really even know what to say to either of you guys other than I hope you guys are both truly blessed...

Also... Jesus isn't a book... He is the living Word of God...

You do what you judge others of doing.
 

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I actually don't really even know what to say to either of you guys other than I hope you guys are both truly blessed...

Also... Jesus isn't a book... He is the living Word of God...

I know what to say, the same thing I tell anyone that treats the Bible as a department store. You can't just grab a cart and pick and choose.
You reduce the bible to any other book, If the bible is not from beginning to end Gods inspired word you may as well say man has no reason to try to understand it. You don't trust it. Tell me how do you and aspen determine what is and is not of God. I'll tell you how, you make a choice based on your gut instinct.

Let me give you an example of yours and aspens theology. Robbie says Oh look here it says all we have to do is believe in Jesus and were saved. Aspen says; ya it says here love your neighbor as yourself and you've fulfilled the law.done it all. You both close the bible and decide theirs no reason to continue, you know everything you need to know. You can't understand why people think God inspired 66 books by 40 authors when all he needed was two sentences, there fore the rest is just useless. All I can say is maybe you should both grow up.
 

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All you have to do is believe Jesus and you're saved... amen... (I'm not talking about believing and shuttering... I'm talking about believing and rejoicing that He made the way to eternal life... the way is Love... God is Love)

If you love your neighbor as yourself you've fulfilled the law... amen...

Definitely in agreement with Jesus on both those points...

and Jesus commandment was to love one another so believing Jesus with our actions is to love one another!!!

What a light burden... loving people feels so good... being a self righteous jerk sucks...

Hope everyone is blessed even those who curse...
 

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I know what to say, the same thing I tell anyone that treats the Bible as a department store. You can't just grab a cart and pick and choose.
You reduce the bible to any other book, If the bible is not from beginning to end Gods inspired word you may as well say man has no reason to try to understand it. You don't trust it. Tell me how do you and aspen determine what is and is not of God. I'll tell you how, you make a choice based on your gut instinct.

Let me give you an example of yours and aspens theology. Robbie says Oh look here it says all we have to do is believe in Jesus and were saved. Aspen says; ya it says here love your neighbor as yourself and you've fulfilled the law.done it all. You both close the bible and decide theirs no reason to continue, you know everything you need to know. You can't understand why people think God inspired 66 books by 40 authors when all he needed was two sentences, there fore the rest is just useless. All I can say is maybe you should both grow up.


Personal Creed

1. I believe in the Trinity, the infallibility of the written and oral word, the incarnation of Christ, and the justification and sanctification of the soul.

2.I believe in the resurrection of Jesus, the forgiveness of sin, the resurrection of the body, and life everlasting.

3.I have a personal, participatory, justified and sanctifying relationship with my Savior, Jesus Christ.

4.I am called to carry out God’s will by loving God, loving myself (recognizing God’s love for me and knowing who I am), and loving my neighbor through service.

5.I believe we are called to root out personal sin by working with Jesus in the sanctification process, which teaches our heart to love and results in perfection after death and resurrection.

6.My primary concern is to store up my treasure in Heaven by promoting a saving relationship in Christ, through the process of creating and participating in deep, loving relationships with my neighbors.

7.The ability to recognize the tragedy of personal sin in my neighbor serves a twofold purpose: to act as a mirror for my own sin, thereby aiding in my personal sanctification; to teach me perspective taking skills, empathy, radical love, acceptance of my neighbor, and the highest form of love; forgiveness.

8.I believe the existence of pain in the world is to teach us to trust, love and forgive through the pain; gain perspective on Christ’s sacrifice and God’s pain, loss and triumph; reveal Christ’s love for His children through service.

9.I believe the main subject in the OT is the omnipotence of God and the full array of human response to this truth. The main point of the NT is God’s response to His own omnipotence, which is love and forgiveness embodied in the man-God Jesus Christ, our ultimate example and only salvation.

10. All truth is God’s truth; therefore all religions, academia, and laws contain varying degrees of truth and are profitable for the development of our mind and relationships with others.

Peace


 

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I know what to say, the same thing I tell anyone that treats the Bible as a department store. You can't just grab a cart and pick and choose.
You reduce the bible to any other book, If the bible is not from beginning to end Gods inspired word you may as well say man has no reason to try to understand it. You don't trust it. Tell me how do you and aspen determine what is and is not of God. I'll tell you how, you make a choice based on your gut instinct.

Let me give you an example of yours and aspens theology. Robbie says Oh look here it says all we have to do is believe in Jesus and were saved. Aspen says; ya it says here love your neighbor as yourself and you've fulfilled the law.done it all. You both close the bible and decide theirs no reason to continue, you know everything you need to know. You can't understand why people think God inspired 66 books by 40 authors when all he needed was two sentences, there fore the rest is just useless. All I can say is maybe you should both grow up.

Your a smart fella Jacob why not heed your own advice.

Please read the forum rules everyone, fractures will no longer be tolerated.
 

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All you have to do is believe Jesus and you're saved... amen... (I'm not talking about believing and shuttering... I'm talking about believing and rejoicing that He made the way to eternal life... the way is Love... God is Love)

If you love your neighbor as yourself you've fulfilled the law... amen...

Definitely in agreement with Jesus on both those points...

and Jesus commandment was to love one another so believing Jesus with our actions is to love one another!!!

What a light burden... loving people feels so good... being a self righteous jerk sucks...

Hope everyone is blessed even those who curse...

You teach that all we have to do is believe Jesus and we're saved? But you do also know and teach that we have to work out our salvation, right? You do know and tell others that we have to repent, right? Do you believe that we have to offer our bodies as living sacrifices, as the Bible says?

According to you, we don't have to do anything but "you love your neighbor as yourself you've fulfilled the law."
But now read what the Bible says, this is for those who say they don’t have to read or believe the Bible---

Jesus quoted scripture. And the Bible says this:


2 Peter 3:18 But grow in grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory, both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

2 Peter 1:2Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord.

3His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

5For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, knowledge;

Colossians 2:3 in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

Read what Jesus told the devil in Matthew 4:4 Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"
 

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Your a smart fella Jacob why not heed your own advice.

Please read the forum rules everyone, fractures will no longer be tolerated.

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The self-righteous anger on this thread is stifling - where is it coming from? It is like a putrid smell.
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I smell it too and I'm sure others can smell it also but I don't think it will last very long :)
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I smell it too and I'm sure others can smell it also.

I find it odd you just throw out a bone and then ignore everything posted about it.

Isn't that trolling?
 

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Anastacia,

I don't teach anything... I share my beliefs... I would never call myself a teacher... Christ is the only teacher as far as I'm concerned...

As far as my beliefs... I believe the writings in the bible, I just don't give the bible the name that belongs to Jesus...

Show me anywhere in the writings that are compiled in the bible that it says that eventually all the writings were gonna be compiled into one big book and we were to call that book the Word of God... the only One I see receiving that name in the bible is Jesus... so even though I might be disagreeing with what your religion calls the bible you can't say I'm not in agreement with Jesus and the testimonies in the bible to Him...

When Jesus prayed for the disciples and said, "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word" notice Jesus didn't call, "their word", "God's word" The word He was speaking of was their testimonies to Him... those testimonies are in the bible...

My belief is Jesus is the Word of God... not a book... I believe the book testifies to the Word of God being Jesus and I believe in Him through their word... I believe in Him through their testimony.

So please don't read beyond what I write and in doing so start responding to your own imagination... it makes communication pointless and understanding each other impossible...

I hope you're blessed and I hope this clears things up for you about my beliefs...
 

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Anastacia,

I don't teach anything... I share my beliefs... I would never call myself a teacher... Christ is the only teacher as far as I'm concerned...

As far as my beliefs... I believe the writings in the bible, I just don't give the bible the name that belongs to Jesus...

Show me anywhere in the writings that are compiled in the bible that it says that eventually all the writing were gonna be compiled into one big book and we were to call that book the Word of God... the only One I see receiving that name in the bible is Jesus... so even though I might be disagreeing with what your religion calls the bible you can't say I'm not in agreement with Jesus and the testimonies in the bible to Him...

When Jesus prayed for the disciples and said, "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word" notice Jesus didn't call, "their word", "God's word" The word He was speaking of was their testimonies to Him... those testimonies are in the bible...

My belief is Jesus is the Word of God... not a book... I believe the book testifies to the Word of God being Jesus and I believe in Him through their word... I believe in Him through their testimony.

So please don't read beyond what I write and in doing so start responding to your own imagination... it makes communication pointless...

Hope you're blessed and I hope this clears things up for you about my beliefs...

You are the one with the imagination. You really think that people think the Bible is a person? I hope you stop putting down the written Word of God. A hypocrite teaches people by what he says, and gets the message to others to not respect the Bible for the written Word of God....and then quote scripture.

You were given scripture about adding to our faith goodness, and to goodness add knowledge. Stop personally attacking, and discuss the Bible....that's why we are here.
 

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Anastacia,

I asked you not to think beyond what I wrote girl... jeesh... haha

I said I'm not a teacher... I'm sharing my beliefs... I'm not trying to be your teacher... I'm just sharing my beliefs with you... I believe Jesus is our only teacher...

I also never said people thought the bible was a person... I said according to my beliefs that Jesus is the Word of God that I see giving the bible the name of the Word of God was giving a book the name that belongs to Jesus... because I believe Jesus is the Word of God... "He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God."

I said I believe the testimonies to Jesus and Him being the Word of God that are in the bible and I pointed out where Jesus talked about those testimonies to Him and how he called those testimonies ,"Their word" not "God's Word"... I can believe those testimonies to Jesus all day long as being true without having to call the bible the Word of God... and that doesn't make me a hypocrite...

I asked you to show me anywhere in the writings that are compiled in the bible that it says that eventually all the writings were gonna be compiled into one big book and we were to call that book the Word of God...

I'm starting to really feel the futility in this conversation... I'm trying not to get offended by your accusations and insults but I'm honestly getting kind of over talking to you... it's starting to make me feel bummed out...

So you can say whatever you want about me or make a post in response to words your putting in my mouth...

But just know that this will be my last response to you about this subject...

I believe I've made my beliefs clear enough...

I hope you're blessed ...
 

jiggyfly

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Thank you Jacob for confirming.
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Anastacia

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Anastacia,

I asked you not to think beyond what I wrote girl... jeesh... haha

I also never said people thought the bible was a person... I said according to my beliefs that Jesus is the Word of God that I see giving the bible the name of the Word of God was giving a book the name that belongs to Jesus... because I believe Jesus is the Word of God... "He had been clothed in a garment dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God."

I said I believe the testimonies to Jesus and Him being the Word of God that are in the bible and I pointed out where Jesus talked about those testimonies to Him and how he called those testimonies ,"Their word" not "God's Word"... I can believe those testimonies to Jesus all day long as being true without having to call the bible the Word of God... and that doesn't make me a hypocrite...

I asked you to show me anywhere in the writings that are compiled in the bible that it says that eventually all the writings were gonna be compiled into one big book and we were to call that book the Word of God...

I'm starting to really feel the futility in this conversation... I'm trying not to get offended by your accusations and insults but I'm honestly getting kind of over talking to you... it's starting to make me feel bummed out...

So you can say whatever you want about me or make a post in response to words your putting in my mouth...

But just know that this will be my last response to you about this subject...

I believe I've made my beliefs clear enough...

I hope you're blessed ...

You falsely accuse me of something about my imagination. You keep bringing in your personal feelings about me that are irrelevant to the discussion. You did tell people that the Bible isn't Jesus. And you do speak in an unfavorable way about the written Word.
Now I hope your last response to me was your last response to me. To quote you: "boy...jeesh...haha" Ugh, see how dumb that sounds?
 

jacobtaylor

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Thank you Jacob for confirming.
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Your welcome

Seeing you mentioned me by name would you mind confirming what rule you are referring to.
I understand that violations are subject to staff discretion please If you would make yourself clear about which one I and others are being reminded about..