amigo de christo
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Sound it out sister . Sound it out . let the LORD be praised .Only the biblical Lord Jesus saves.
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Sound it out sister . Sound it out . let the LORD be praised .Only the biblical Lord Jesus saves.
Does your wife know that not one early reformers denied Mary's sinlessness? Or is Luther, Calvin, Knox, Zwingli...to name a few, ridiculous as well?
And you KEEP denying the truth of Scripture - that Jesus is MARY'S SEED (Gen. 3:15).
Mary's egg
Mary's womb
Mary's DNA
Jesus is MARY'S SEED (Gen. 3:15).
Mary's egg
Mary's womb
Mary's DNA
Tell that to your spiritual forefathers. You've dogmatized a flip flop that isn't very old. The cover up continues.To come to the conclusion that Mary was sinless requires an exercise in extra-biblical vain speeches, fair words, and a mind of a simpleton.
BreadOfLife... ALL flesh is NOT the same -
and Jesus showed us that in His GLORIFIED Body after the Resurrection, when He appeared in the Upper Room, though the door was locked. He was also able to hide His appearance from Mary Magdalene and the 2 disciples on the road to Emmaus.
But the Body that was put to death on the cross was HUMAN -
So, YOU can deny that
BOL - otherwise, the sacrifice wasn't perfect.
until the COWS come home - but Jesus WARNS those like YOU:
Matt. 10:33
But whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.
Good luck with that . . .
Whenever I see one of your LOOOOONNNNGG verbose rants – I know that you are grasping for straws. A REAL student of Scripture is more concise.WHAAAAT?
Scripture says no such thing.
Gen 3:13 says no such thing.
No, I do not deny what Scripture says.
I definately deny what YOU say.
No!
Mary was created and made earthly.
Mary's seed was earthly.
Mary's womb was earthly.
Mary's DNA was earthly.
God IS the creator and maker.
Jesus is Gods SEED.
Christ is God POWER.
Jesus is the Last Adam.
Jesus is CHRIST; Spirit that quickens.
John 1:
[12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Gal 3:
[16] Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
1 Cor 15:
[45] And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
* God PREPARED a BODY FOR HIS SEED.
* Gods SEED "IS" Gods WORD.
* Gods WORD came forth out from Gods MOUTH, In the Body God PREPARED.
* THAT Prepared Body WAS SENT, FROM HEAVEN, TO EARTH, TO Mary's Virgin WOMB.
* That BODY God Prepared for HIS WORD;
WAS A BODY that "LOOKED LIKE" A HUMAN MANS BODY.
* That BODY was SEEN BY Earthly Human men, AND CALLED...."A MAN".
Isa 55:
[11] So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it (Gods WORD) shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.
Heb 10:
[5] Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:
* TOOK UPON HIMSELF...THE FORM OF A SERVANT.
Phil 2:
[7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
Rom 8:
[3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Phil 2:
[7] But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
* Earthly FLESH MEN ARE CORRUPT.
(Including Mary and every other EARTHLY Human).
* The WORD of God Came FORTH OUT FROM GODS MOUTH...
* TOOK UPON HIMSELF THE FORM in the LIKENESS OF EARTHLY MEN.
* OBVIOUSLY you utterly IGNORE through your own Ignorance, "WHAT IS UNDER THAT FORM" the Lord TOOK UPON HIMSELF...
* WHAT you IGNORE, IS WHAT you CAN NOT SEE.
* WHAT you CAN NOT SEE, is the SEED OF GOD.
* WHAT men COULD SEE, IS MARY.
WHAT you have concocted IS MARY'S "SEED", (egg), IS WHAT God "fertalized" to bring forth
The Son of God!
* What Scripture REVEALS...IS GODS SEED IS HIS WORD OF TRUTH.
* GOD PLANTS HIS SEED "IN" things OF Gods CHOOSING.
* GODS SEED PROSPERS "IN" the thing Gods SENDS HIS WORD TO.
* GOD SENT HIS SEED (WORD), IN A BODY GOD PREPARED, IN the "LIKENESS" as a (human, earthly) MAN, to MARY'S VIRGIN WOMB...
* Gods SEED, Was Revealed to the WORLD, having Come Forth out of Mary's Womb.
* Obviously what you IGNORE through your own Ignorance...
IS Gods SEED, (WORD) Came FORTH OUT FROM GODS MOUTH, IN HEAVEN and WAS SENT TO EARTH, TO Mary's VIRGIN WOMB....
* Mary's human seed, (egg) DNA, blood, will of her earthly flesh....Contributed NOT ONE IOTA, TO GODS WORKS, OF GOD SENDING "HIS WORD, HIS SEED, HIS PREPARED BODY"
TO: Mary's VIRGIN WOMB.
John 1:
[13] B] Which were born,not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man,but of God
* YOUR THEORY IS is DOWN THE DRAIN.
The WORD OF GOD, WAS BORN OF GOD, WHEN GODS WORD IN HEAVEN, CAME FORTH OUT OF GODS MOUTH.
* Gods OWN WORD, verifies, Gods WORD WAS BORN OUT OF GOD IN HEAVEN and SENT TO EARTH, TO A VIRGIN WOMB.
John 1:13 (quoted above).
John 16: (Jesus speaking).
[27] For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
Your THEORY is debunked by Scripture itself.
The Word of God Was BORN OF GOD, BEFORE, the Word of God Was SENT FROM HEAVEN, to Mary's Virgin Womb, ON Earth.
Once again, your LONG, psychotic rant is just more evidence of your Scriptural acrobatics . . .BOL -
No, that warning is not for me.
I Never claimed to DENY Scripture.
YOU, as is your usual conniving devious method, made that FALSE CLAIM "FOR ME".
And not ONCE have I ever "accepted" your FALSE conniving devious claims for me!
And your pity "good luck"... is but yet more of your carnal minded nonsense....as IF LUCK has anything to do with Spiritual Understanding or Gods Spiritual Works!
The Son of man...Was revealed FOR the stiffnecked, stubborn, foolish dopes who COULD NOT BELIEVE IN the Heavenly God "WITHOUT" SEEING SOMETHING.
And the human men, who are too ignorant to understand, Jesus IS God, in the LIKENESS as a human.... that God IS the Creator, not the Created; are the same stiffnecked, stubborn, foolish dopes, who Preach Jesus IS a human.
Here's a Message of KNOWLEDGE FOR YOU;
EX 32;
[7] And the LORD said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves:
[8] They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.
[9] And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people:
[10] Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation.
Here's a WARNING FOR YOU...
Deut 10:
[16] Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.
2 Cor 30:
[8] Now be ye not Stiffnecked , as your fathers were, but yield yourselves unto the LORD, and enter into his sanctuary, which he hath sanctified for ever: and serve the LORD your God, that the fierceness of his wrath may turn away from you.
John 20:
[29] Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
Teach, Preach, Worship your HUMAN MAN...and human woman, as you please.
You would not be the first Created Human, to WORSHIP Created Humans, over the Creator...And wax hot, Gods Wrath...
Just get yourself prepared for When Gods Wrath shall fall upon men who worship Human men.
And therein lies your problem.
NEVER get your theology from a secular source Wikipedia, the NY Times, etc.
You are conflating Eastern CATHOIC Liturgical Rites with Eastern Orthodox Churches.
Your "research" is as shoddy and pathetic as Alexander Hislop's - and this is why I have repeatedly stated that your ignorance is boundless . . .
Suuuurrre - that's why I linguistically obliterated your nonsense in posts #1050 and #1075 by proving you WRONG about the use of the word "Adelphos".
Consider yourself Scripturally and linguistically SPANKED . . .
Even JESUS himself was made in the same type of flesh as we all were . SO WHY does MARY have another type . EXACTLY .Stop whining...the point is all Flesh is not the same Flesh.
God is Celestial.
Humans are Terrestrial.
Not the SAME FLESH!
Not the SAME BODIES!
Not the SAME SEEDS!
Your FALSE teaching that God fertalized with His SEED a Human Egg to Created a hybrid, half human, half spirit "unholy" thing...
IS UTTER NONSENSE.
Nope, not dishonest, stayed ON POINT, and gave Scripture ON POINT....
All Flesh is not the Same.
Gods Flesh, Gods Body, Gods Word IS WITHOUT SIN.
Marys Human flesh, Marys Human body, was naturally born in sin, and still has sin, as it lays rotting returning to dust of the earth.
Because Mary has "forgiven sin", she "shall be" raised in a Body WITHOUT Sin...
Regardless of all the "slanderous things Catholics teach about Mary".
First of all - yes, MARY'S SEED:
Gen. 3:15 (KJV)
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and HER SEED; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Luke 1:31 (KJV)
And, behold, THOU SHALT CONCEIVE IN THY WOMB, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
some of the verses you provided were incomplete
Case in point - YOU posted:
Phil. 2:7
…but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
BUT, verse 8 says:
And being found in HUMAN form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
The Greek word, αντηροποσ (Anthropos) is used here, which is defined as, “HUMAN BEING”.
YOUR heresy id not new. It’s been around since the early centuries of the Church - and is a mix of Docetism and Monophysitism.
As for your idiotic use of John 1:13 – that verse is talking about CHRISTIANS, and not Christ.
Here is is in CONTEXT with verse 12:
John 1:12-13
But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God, who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
So, instead of cherry-picking Bible verses OUT of context – learn to properly divide the Word of God to avoid revisiting centuries-old heresies . . .
Even JESUS himself was made in the same type of flesh as we all were . SO WHY does MARY have another type . EXACTLY .
Made in the likeness of sinful flesh . THE same flesh . Folks read hebrews .
And dont heed a word of the R double C .
Let no man , woman or child heed the r double c . Now , on that note , LET THE KING BE PRAISED . HEED CHRISTMary had human flesh.
All humans have human flesh.
Jesus' flesh was in the LIKENESS as Human flesh...not in the SAMESNESS as human flesh
And yet, you FAILED to prove that from Scripture - didn't you, my Sola Scripturist friend?Mary had lots of sex after Jesus was born.
To come to the conclusion that Mary was sinless requires an exercise in extra-biblical vain speeches, fair words, and a mind of a simpleton.
Tell that to your spiritual forefathers. You've dogmatized a flip flop that isn't very old. The cover up continues.