How Were YOU Taught To Overcome Sin?

[CharismaticLady]

Absolutely not. It's the love of God in you by the Holy Spirit that works in you your love for others. It seems very few Christians find it. I believe it's the narrow way that Jesus said few find.

Good answer. I agree.

 

[Tong2020]

Tong2020 said: ↑
Overcome evil with good.

It's often a step of faith but it is an excellent way to see the temptation to get angry, retaliate, or seek revenge drain away from you. But that's what Christians are—faith walkers. We step out in faith to see the seemingly impossible become possible.

Overcome evil with good.

For me, that says about it all.

Tong
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[Tong2020]

Tong2020 said: ↑
Interesting, can temptation be ignored?

I think so.
'Talk to the hand' is a useful technique for putting some of the less troublesome temptations in our lives away from us.

Many here seems to think so too.

But my thinking is quite different. Though, I am not really making an issue of it.

I think temptation cannot be ignored. For I was taught that each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. And for as long as we are in the flesh, one could not ignore such, but could either fall for it or resist it. The Spirit within me tells me that I should resist it and endure it and overcome.

And if at all temptation can be ignored, I would rather not, but instead endure it. For there is something really good in doing so. The word of God tells me “Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.”.

@Nancy @marks @Enoch111

Tong
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[Tong2020]

1 Corinthians 10:13 KJV
13) There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

This "way to escape", the word refers to a "safe harbor out of a storm".

Temptations - testing - same thing - are contrary circumstances, or felt needs, which appear to require direct action from us, but where such action would be of the flesh, and not the spirit. They are there to train us to not respond to our flesh, and instead to seek for God's solution.

The way to escape refers grammatically to a specific way that is incorporated into that particular test.

Tempation if it leads to yielding in sin, testing if it leads to trusting Jesus for the outcome.

For each temptation/test, there is a specific result God intends for us. If we choose correctly, that we advance. If we choose incorrectly, there may be a bit of correction. It's all designed with specific purpose for our good.

Much love!

I don’t think temptation and testing are the same. They are two opposites.

Tong
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[marks]

I don’t think temptation and testing are the same. They are two opposites.

Tong
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The same Greek word is translated both test and tempt. The situation is the same, what changes is your response.

Much love!

 

[marks]

And if at all temptation can be ignored, I would rather not, but instead endure it.

That's how I endure it. I realize it's no different than hitting my thumb with a hammer. I may want to curse, I may want to complain, I may want to feel angry or cheated, but these are all "body feelings/thoughts", the corruption of the flesh. I ignore them until they go away. And as I think I may be on the verge of doing something wrong, I tell my Father, and look for His support.

Much love!

 

[marks]

I'm learning not to get dragged into foolish arguments like this. If those plain scriptures about forgiving others that I shared aren't enough, surely there's nothing I can say that will mean anything. Bye, bye.

@Taken

We just need to have the right idea about things.

When we forgive someone, it's about us, not them. We don't condemn someone to the lake of fire for their sins. We don't make the laws. God does that, and God forgives. There is nothing judicial in our forgiving others.

@CharismaticLady treats forgiveness as a judicial matter, that we "must forgive to be forgiven", a judicial transaction, buying forgiveness from God with our own forgiveness to others.

Our forgiveness is nothing like when God forgives. God releases us from culpability when He forgives us. When we forgive, we are basically releasing our own harbored grudge. We are not releasing someone else of their responsibility for their actions. God will still hold them accountable, unless He Himself forgives them.

Much love!

 

[Wynona]

I am being taught to feed the Spirit and starve the flesh.

That means limiting or nixing consumption of secular entertainment and music that feed the flesh. It means reading the Word every day, praying every day.

When you feed the Spirit, your appetite for sin decreases and your appetite for the things of God grows.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

I am being taught to fee the Spirit and starve the flesh.

That means limiting or nixing consumption of secular entertainment and music that feed the flesh. It means reading the Word every day, praying every day.

When you feed the Spirit, your appetite for sin decreases and your appetite for the things of God grows.

You are absolutely correct. @rockytopva posted a Christian video the other day and I watched the whole thing and loved it. I saw lots of other Christian movies come up in my YouTube recommendations. I did not know so many Christian movies were available to watch. I will be watching a lot more of that kind of stuff instead of the stuff I have been watching.

 

[marks]

I am being taught to fee the Spirit and starve the flesh.

That means limiting or nixing consumption of secular entertainment and music that feed the flesh. It means reading the Word every day, praying every day.

When you feed the Spirit, your appetite for sin decreases and your appetite for the things of God grows.

Amen!!

Nixing entirely!! And the benefit is great! And audio Bible.

Much love!

 

[Nancy]

Many here seems to think so too.

But my thinking is quite different. Though, I am not really making an issue of it.

I think temptation cannot be ignored. For I was taught that each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. And for as long as we are in the flesh, one could not ignore such, but could either fall for it or resist it. The Spirit within me tells me that I should resist it and endure it and overcome.

And if at all temptation can be ignored, I would rather not, but instead endure it. For there is something really good in doing so. The word of God tells me “Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.”.

@Nancy @marks @Enoch111

Tong
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Okay. I can fly with that brother. Things should be dealt with, not ignored. And yes indeed..."resist"

 

[Tong2020]

Tong2020 said: ↑
I don’t think temptation and testing are the same. They are two opposites

The same Greek word is translated both test and tempt. The situation is the same, what changes is your response.

Much love!

Perhaps. But the context modifies the word. That’s why when it pertains to God, it is appropriately translated “test” and not “tempt”. For God does not tempt, but He test.

Tong
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[Tong2020]

That's how I endure it. I realize it's no different than hitting my thumb with a hammer. I may want to curse, I may want to complain, I may want to feel angry or cheated, but these are all "body feelings/thoughts", the corruption of the flesh. I ignore them until they go away. And as I think I may be on the verge of doing something wrong, I tell my Father, and look for His support.

Much love!

Okay.

Tong
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[Tong2020]

I am being taught to feed the Spirit and starve the flesh.

That means limiting or nixing consumption of secular entertainment and music that feed the flesh. It means reading the Word every day, praying every day.

When you feed the Spirit, your appetite for sin decreases and your appetite for the things of God grows.

Amen!

Tong
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[Tong2020]

Okay. I can fly with that brother. Things should be dealt with, not ignored. And yes indeed..."resist"

Thank you. I am glad you clearly got my point.

I think there is also a good thing resulting out from resisting temptation. We read in scriptures “Resist the devil and he will flee from you.”

Tong
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[Ferris Bueller]

I think temptation cannot be ignored. For I was taught that each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed. And for as long as we are in the flesh, one could not ignore such, but could either fall for it or resist it.
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And if at all temptation can be ignored, I would rather not, but instead endure it.

I think you misunderstand ignoring sin as meaning not overcoming it. After being a Christian for 35 years there are some temptations that now only require me to say, "not going there." There are sins that I have on 'ignore' now.

 

[farouk]

So is that by your willpower? I tried that and it didn't work.

@CharismaticLady Romans 8 is a real tonic for the believer!

 

[Taken]

I'm learning not to get dragged into foolish arguments like this. If those plain scriptures about forgiving others that I shared aren't enough, surely there's nothing I can say that will mean anything. Bye, bye.

@Taken

We just need to have the right idea about things.

When we forgive someone, it's about us, not them. We don't condemn someone to the lake of fire for their sins. We don't make the laws. God does that, and God forgives. There is nothing judicial in our forgiving others.


Our forgiveness is nothing like when God forgives. God releases us from culpability when He forgives us. When we forgive, we are basically releasing our own harbored grudge. We are not releasing someone else of their responsibility for their actions. God will still hold them accountable, unless He Himself forgives them.

Much love!

We just need to have the right idea about things.

Agree 100% !

I asked Ferris his opinion. He answered. I gave my opinion. He replied. I didn't drag him anywhere. I did NOT call his opinion foolish.

The "idea", was specifically about...
Forgiveness..... OF SIN.

* I read on this forum...
~ Men accusing men of committing SIN "against them."

~ Men Saying, they SIN..."no more"...
And "another man saying and accusing" them of having SAID, "they HAVE NO SIN".
(Stark difference between saying...sin no more, and have no sin...
One saying they "sin no more", is obvious, notice they have sinned.)

~ I have not YET, had a meaningful conversation with ANYONE on this forum...
ABOUT... "forgiveness OF SIN..." without,
It immediately turning to ACCUSATIONS and name calling.

~ I don't begrudge anyone for their own "opinion"...
~ What I do find, "IS"... a sore lack of people having the ability, "to state HOW or WHY", they have arrived at their "OPINION", and "instead" rely on "accusing, name calling and deflection".

~ I find A HUGE DIFFERENCE, Between...
Precisely:
* WHO "CAN COMMIT SIN" and WHY
* WHO "CAN NOT COMMIT SIN" and WHY
* WHO "SIN is Against" and WHY.
* WHO can "FORGIVE SIN" and WHY.
And
* WHO "CAN COMMIT A TRESPASS" and WHY
* WHO "a TRESPASS" is Against and WHY.
* WHO can "FORGIVE a TRESPASS" and WHY.

Absolutely...Scripture teaches FORGIVENESS...
Option and Ability...
~Pertaining to Gods Forgiveness... OF WHAT and OF WHOM.
~And Mans Forgiveness... OF WHAT and of WHOM.

This forum having an option for discussion...
IS advantageous.
Men having the inability to discuss A POINT, stay on POINT, is a repeated FAILURE.
( personally, I see the failure as a failure, Because many men, know what they believe, know their opinion, but do not KNOW, WHY, they believe what they believe, and thus, the conversation turns wayward, to accusing, namecalling, deflection and worthless.)

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Ferris Bueller]

* I read on this forum...
~ Men accusing men of committing SIN "against them."

Don't play theological games about sin. It's plain as day in the Bible. People sin against people, and we are to forgive the person who sins against us.

"...if you forgive other people when they sin against you..." Matthew 6:14​

 

[Truman]

How do I overcome sin? In a nutshell, Luke 9:23.