The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End…

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Ronald Nolette

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Prince of Peace actually read Angel of Peace in the Greek Septuagint. Everlasting Father read.. Father of the New Age.
The Prince of Peace came to help Gabriel to fend off Satan who was called Prince of Persia.
Why do you want to know my name it is Wonderful? (Judges 13:18)

None of these are the God and Father of Lord Jesus Christ. Have you never read the Our Father Prayer??
What Jesus first priority in his prayer to his Father?

And the greek septuigant is a translation of Hebrew made by the 70. And its primary meaning is messenger. but in the Hebrew the word "sar" appears which is NEVER angel but prince or ruler or authority. So sorry your argument is terribly terribly tepid and weak.

And NO the prince of peace did not come to help Gabriel. It is michael the great prince not the prince of peace- two separate princes involved!

And everlasting father reads "ab ad" which reads the Father of eternity. Someone is feeding you a pack of lies about the languages.
 

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Well if you wish to get technical- hell is the grave or world of the dead. Many use the term "hell" in a colloquial way to refer to its real name- "Thie Lake of Fire". this is where lost people, like those who deny Jesus physically rose from the dead with th ebody He died in, will suffer day and night forever and ever.

So technically you are right, but doctrinally the Watchtower has deceived you once again.
 

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And the greek septuigant is a translation of Hebrew made by the 70. And its primary meaning is messenger. but in the Hebrew the word "sar" appears which is NEVER angel but prince or ruler or authority. So sorry your argument is terribly terribly tepid and weak.

And NO the prince of peace did not come to help Gabriel. It is michael the great prince not the prince of peace- two separate princes involved!

And everlasting father reads "ab ad" which reads the Father of eternity. Someone is feeding you a pack of lies about the languages.

Oh... Satan the Prince of Persia is not an angel??? Is he the trinity? I see three parts here: "And I saw three unclean inspired expressions that looked like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. and they go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty." (Revelation 16:13-14) The trinity isn't listed but the concept of 3 in 1 is conveyed.
 

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Well if you wish to get technical- hell is the grave or world of the dead. Many use the term "hell" in a colloquial way to refer to its real name- "Thie Lake of Fire". this is where lost people, like those who deny Jesus physically rose from the dead with th ebody He died in, will suffer day and night forever and ever.

So technically you are right, but doctrinally the Watchtower has deceived you once again.

Well, the lake of fire is Gehenna which symbolizes everlasting destruction. After (hell) the graves are emptied notice what happens to hell. "Death and hell were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire." (Rev 20:14)

That means after the Last Days conclude there is going to be a resurrection.. I know I know... you don't like that. But death and hell will be destroyed forever!! And that my friend is the Good News about God's Kingdom..... Hades will not overpower it...
 

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Oh... Satan the Prince of Persia is not an angel??? Is he the trinity? I see three parts here: "And I saw three unclean inspired expressions that looked like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the wild beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. and they go out to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty." (Revelation 16:13-14) The trinity isn't listed but the concept of 3 in 1 is conveyed.


No He is not an angeerl- He is a cherub, and before His fall He was the anointed cherub which made him the fourth most powerful being in the universe.

By eqwuating the three spirits with the trinity is very juvenile. Thje Watchtower has taught you what they think we believe is the trinity and you know this doesn't even come close.

That means after the Last Days conclude there is going to be a resurrection.. I know I know... you don't like that. But death and hell will be destroyed forever!! And that my friend is the Good News about God's Kingdom..... Hades will not overpower it..

I know there is going to be a resurrection after the thousand year earthly kingdom of Jesus! but it is for all those who are lost!

But let us look at that verse shall we?

Revelation 20:13-15
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13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

See what happens?

1. All the dead are raised to life that were not part of the first resurrection spoken of in verse 6.
2. Death and the grave are cast into teh lake of fire and destroyed! The casting of death and the grave into teh lake of fire is the second death!
3. then all the lost are cast into the lake of fire where they shall suffer day and not forever and ever as the bible says!
 

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No He is not an angeerl- He is a cherub, and before His fall He was the anointed cherub which made him the fourth most powerful being in the universe.

Interesting... I always thought Satan was a angel. A son of God who became disobedient. But why aren't cherubs not angels?
 

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Interesting... I always thought Satan was a angel. A son of God who became disobedient. But why aren't cherubs not angels?

Well technically there are three types of spirit beings. We coloquially have called them all angels but that is not the biblical reality.

Cherubs are the highest class of spirit being.
then come the seraphs. They are the winged creatures found in Ezekiel 1 and in revelation around the throne.
then the lowest class is the angels of whom Michael is the arch or chief angel. He is lower in authority than Satan was and lower in power as well.
Angels have been appointed as ministering spirits for the saved who trust in the death and physical resurrection of Jesus as the payment for their sin.
That is why in Jude, Michael did not dare bring a railing accusation against Satan but instead said "The Lord rebuke you".

But as for Satan (Lucifer)

Ezekiel 28:11-16
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11 Moreover the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord God; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

He covered the throne of God and was like a presidents chief of staff. Nothing got to God but it went first through Satan. He was and still is th efourth most powerful being in the universe.

15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
 

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Ummmm.... so now they are angels? Because the two cherubs on the ark of the covenant were angels spreading their wings to provide protection. Sorta reminds me of Jesus' statement when he said, “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the killer of the prophets and stoner of those sent to her—how often I wanted to gather your children together the way a hen gathers her chicks under her WINGS! But you did not want it." (Matthew 23:37)
 

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The Last Days that began in 1914 are now coming to their End...


Would you like to be a Survivor of the Last Days?

"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here." (2 Timothy 3:1) The Last Days (pangs of distress) do not last for an exhaustive period of time but do have an ending to them. It's an allotment period of time of 120 years, like the Days of Noah. This allotment is a Conclusion of a System of things.

As Christ Millennial approaches, we will soon bring an end to our Preaching Work to those associated with (2 Timothy 3:1-5) for the end of an Age has come. It's not the end of the world but rather the End of An Age of Wickedness.

  • "And this good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come." (Matthew 24:14)

  • "... and from these turn away." (2 Timothy 3:5)
Our Preaching Work does not come to end as a whole, but rather the preaching work comes to an end for those who are wicked. Those whom are Survivors of the End of the Last Days (a conclusion of a system of things) will have a satisfying work ahead of them during Christ's Millennial Reign, including the preaching work to the righteous and unrighteous who are resurrected on earth. Notice those who were counted wicked have no resurrection, they are dead forever, therefore once the Last Days have concluded, their time to turn around and repent will have concluded once and for all time.

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Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shallsee visions, and your old men shall dreamdreams:

the last days began on Pentecost
 

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Hi,
I am not a Jehovah's Witness. I am not affiliated with any organized religion. I am a born again believer in Jesus Christ the Son of God. I have seen Him seated on His Throne with all power and authority in Heaven and Earth at the right side of His Father the Most High ONE God, who is endless SPIRIT, LOVE, LIGHT and LIFE. Everything He is and does is ONE with His Father and within the endless LOVE that He and His Father LIVE in together. I testify to you that we are reaching the end of this age that has been given a time period of 120 years, the same amount of time that was given to the previous age ( Noah's) before the Flood. We are on the cusp of end time events that once they begin to happen will proceed at a landslide pace right up to the coming of Son of God to the Mount of Olives. The real issue we face is not what happens when but what is within our hearts. Are we ready to lay down our life in the faith and testimony of Jesus Christ? To experience ourselves as we also see our loved ones starve to death (can not work, buy or sell), go to prison (captivity with mistreatment, torture, death) or die by the sword (executed) and yet not take up arms, hate or capitulate? Are we prepared to obey the Son by keeping His commandment to "love one another ... to love, bless, and even pray for those who persecute us as He did"? (review the death of Stephen and read Foxe's Book of Martyr's for a historical account of what real persecution can be like) Let's not be naive, we can not do this in our own power no more than Peter could, he is our example and teacher. Let us humble ourselves before God our Father and seek His strength and understanding. Let us look up to the Son of God, seeking Him, asking for His help to be prepared for what is soon coming. Please stop judging and arguing with one another (read James) the time is so short we do not have time for anything but seeking God that our hearts, minds and lives become prepared to be set on Him to the very end.
 
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The last days that began in Pentecost on 33 CE will soon end on the second day 2033 CE. This is referring to the collection of the anointed also know as the elect.

"He will revive us after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him." (Hosea 6:2)

"However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." (2 Peter 3:8)

  • The Body of Christ began to be collected on Pentecost 33 CE.
  • Pentecost happened on 33 CE + 2000 yrs = 2033 CE the third day begins 2034. Not all anointed will be heavenly at this point but you can apply other scriptures during the Last Days of this Age as they come to their End:
The Last Days of Satan's Rulership will come to its conclusion from 1914 CE to 2034 CE with a flurry of prophecies unfolding. When the wicked begin dying the second death of everlasting destruction!

The Time Left Is Reduced!
The sealing of the 144,000 is at hand...
 
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The last days that began in Pentecost on 33 CE will soon end on the second day 2033 CE. This is referring to the collection of the anointed also know as the elect.

Interesting thought. How do we know the anointed; where did they come from and how did they get here among us. Some what curious how a person defines the anointed, and what is they're place in life?
 

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Interesting thought. How do we know the anointed; where did they come from and how did they get here among us. Some what curious how a person defines the anointed, and what is they're place in life?

Such ones are bought from the earth with the 'ransom sacrifice' of Jesus Christ of his 'Flesh and Blood'. Starting on Pentecost 33 CE... the first ones of about 120 disciples were Baptized by Holy Spirit. The Day Peter stood up he and others Baptized some 3,000 with a specific baptism. Nobody in the first century were Baptized in the Name of the Father Son, and Holy Spirit as they are today.

Those called and chosen are Baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ. Peter said to them: “Repent, and let each one of you be baptize in the name of Jesus Christ for forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the free gift of the holy spirit. (Acts 2:38)

Any other baptism would nullify the one called....
A closer look at Matthew 28:19….
 
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For most Christians the last days began when Jesus died on the cross - unless you're a JW in which case you believe the 1914 myth.
 

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I am sure happy that 2034 is only 13 years away. Since 1914, God's Kingdom has been crushing Satan's earthly kingdoms, one after another as they are being fragmented like a Potter who striking at pottery. Good Riddens!

In the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed. And this kingdom will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it alone will stand forever, (Daniel 2:44) Governments are already fragmenting... We are at the toes, there is nothing left to crush in a few years.
Daniel 2:41

Isaiah 45:9
Woe to the one who contends with his Maker, For he is just an earthenware fragment Among the other earthenware fragments lying on the ground! Should the clay say to the Potter: “What are you making?” Or should your work say: “He has no hands”?

Soon, the Political Kings will come to Religions to pillage and divvy up her ill gotten gains. Repay her in the way she treated others, yes, pay her back double for the things she has done; in the cup she has mixed, mix a double portion for her. Revelation 18:6

The Fulfillment of Matthew 24:14 about to Be Revealed...
 

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The last days that began in Pentecost on 33 CE will soon end on the second day 2033 CE. This is referring to the collection of the anointed also know as the elect.

"He will revive us after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him." (Hosea 6:2)

"However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." (2 Peter 3:8)

  • The Body of Christ began to be collected on Pentecost 33 CE.
  • Pentecost happened on 33 CE + 2000 yrs = 2033 CE the third day begins 2034. Not all anointed will be heavenly at this point but you can apply other scriptures during the Last Days of this Age as they come to their End:
The Last Days of Satan's Rulership will come to its conclusion from 1914 CE to 2034 CE with a flurry of prophecies unfolding. When the wicked begin dying the second death of everlasting destruction!

The Time Left Is Reduced!
The sealing of the 144,000 is at hand...

how many predictions like this have actually come true? The JW’s have failed at it numerous times
 
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smells like date setting to me . Folks , RUN from those who have set the dates .

Jesus Christ was a date setter.

John 2:19
Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”

"He will revive us after two days. On the third day he will raise us up, And we will live before him." (Hosea 6:2)

"However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day." (2 Peter 3:8)

  • The Body of Christ began to be collected on Pentecost 33 CE.
  • Pentecost happened on 33 CE + 2000 yrs = 2033 CE the third day begins 2034. Not all anointed will be heavenly at this point but you can apply other scriptures during the Last Days of this Age as they come to their End:
 

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Such ones are bought from the earth with the 'ransom sacrifice' of Jesus Christ of his 'Flesh and Blood'. Starting on Pentecost 33 CE...

Ok sure. Is there a scripture base to what you are saying? In this quote.