The problem with the Bible alone!

[theefaith]

There is absolute evidence from the Books of Daniel and Revelation that the Papal system is the Beast and the AntiChrist. A time will come when all churches and political systems will come under the RCC and everyone whose names are not written in the Book of Life will worship the Beast and the AntiChrist pope. This is the son of perdition that will be revealed once the true bride of Christ is taken up in the Rapture, and it will signal the imminent return of Christ to the world. He will come and totally destroy the Beast and the AntiChrist and set up His everlasting kingdom where every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord of all.

When does this begin to happen

 

[David in NJ]

did Jesus found a church?

Your question was already CLEARLY answered in Posts 120 and 121

Did you harden your heart against Scripture and the Holy Spirit?

 

[David in NJ]

When does this begin to happen

It began in the Garden.

 

[BreadOfLife]

My church is not a 501(c)(3) org. We are like the first century ekklesia giving to the government what it requires and to God all the glory. We operate openly, and we're not afraid to call evil out, like Biden and Cuomo and Pelosi and the EU and the RCC and others. We teach thd absolute truth of God's word without compromising it with outside sources as do the SDA, LDS, RCC, JW's, et alia. We support ourselves and we support others. So, no, sunshine: not all churches in the USA are government controlled like the RCC.

Then perhaps you can trace your lineage ALL the way back to the FIRST century?
Yeah - I didn't think so . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

How are you saved, @BreadOfLife?

By the blood of Christ.
That's the ONLY way one is saved.

 

[BreadOfLife]

No. You were trying to justify the Catholic church's riches.

Nope - just telling you where the money goes.

 

[LTJMP14]

Then perhaps you can trace your lineage ALL the way back to the FIRST century?
Yeah - I didn't think so . . .

Since when did any so-called "church" need a 501(c)(3) status to operate as God's ekklesia? The answer is: we don't.

The only reason your catholic "church" and other "churches" apply for 501(c)(3) is to protect your big money donors and keep yourself from having to open your books to the government. Lots to hide, I'm sure. How may billions $$$ did your church pay out to those you sexually abused? 10? 20? 30 billion$$$? Do you even know? Do you even care?

 

[LTJMP14]

By the blood of Christ.
That's the ONLY way one is saved.

So you accepted God's grace offer?

 

[David in NJ]

By the blood of Christ.
That's the ONLY way one is saved.

RIGHT, now get rid of the wafer god.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Matt 24:
[35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my (GODS) words shall not pass away.

Isa 40:
[8] ... the word of our (MY) God shall stand for ever.

2 Pet 1:
[25] ...the word of the (MY) Lord endureth for ever.

Prov 30:
[5] Every word of God is pure...

John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God , and the Word was God.

2 Tim 3:
[16] All SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and IS profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

** Do reveal, what YOU TRUST IS MORE SUFFICIANT than Gods Word.

NONE of these verses speak of Scripture - except for 2 Tim. 3:16 - and THAT one simply says that Scripture is "PROFITABLE." It never says that it is our SOLE Authority.

NOWHERE does Scripture tell us that the Word of God is limited ONLY to what is written.
in 2 Thess. 2:25 - Paul tells us that it is NOT.

EPIC FAIL.

 

[charity]

When i read your post i enjoyed a most wonderful Breakfast - Thank You
Man shall not live by bread alone but by every Word that proceeds from the mouth of the Father.

Praise God! @David in NJ, yes.

How lovely!

Thank you for blessing me.
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[LTJMP14]

NONE of these verses speak of Scripture - except for 2 Tim. 3:16 - and THAT one simply says that Scripture is "PROFITABLE." It never says that it is our SOLE Authority.

NOWHERE does Scripture tell us that the Word of God is limited ONLY to what is written.
in 2 Thess. 2:25 - Paul tells us that it is NOT.

EPIC FAIL.

By your account, the seventh day adventists are justified in their use of Ellen G. White's writings. And Mormons in their use of the writings of Joseph Smith. And the JW's use of their watchtower.

The Bible is exclusive and sacrosanct except in the cc, sda, lds, and jws.

 

[BreadOfLife]

So you accepted God's grace offer?

Every faithful Catholic has.

 

[BreadOfLife]

RIGHT, now get rid of the wafer god.

Actually - YOU should obey Christ by eating His flesh and drinking his blood - or you will have NO LIFE within you (John 6:53-56).

Good luck with NOT doing that . . .

 

[theefaith]

Jesus stated that Jerusalem would be trampled on until the end of the appointed time of the nations. He foretold that false christs would arise, and Paul made it clear there would be an apostasy. God never leaves Himself without witness so during those days of apostasy there would be a few anointed disciples along the way, but God would not gather His people until the last days like you mentioned at Isa 2:2,3 in your last post to me. When Jesus was enthroned as King, that ended the appointed times of the nations, and we entered into the last days.

the last days began at Pentecost

 

[charity]

did Jesus found a church?

Hello @theefaith,

The Church which is the Body of Christ, referred to in Ephesians 1:22-23, is the Church over which Christ is the Head.

Referring to Peter's words in Matthew 16:16, which were a revelation from God the Father (Matthew 16:17), spoken in response to a question concerning the identity of the Lord Jesus Christ:- 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God' (v.16), the Lord Jesus Christ said, 'upon this ROCK I will build my Church'. It was that truth, concerning Himself, which would be the ROCK upon which His Ekklesia would be built. The foundation being Christ Himself. (Luke 6:47-49)

'For we are labourers together with God:
ye are God's husbandry,
ye are God's building.
According to the grace of God which is given unto me,
as a wise masterbuilder,
I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon.
But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid,
which is Jesus Christ.''
(1 Corinthians 3:9-11)

* The Rock upon which that foundation is laid, is the truth revealed by God to Peter, that:- 'Thou art the Christ, the Son of the Living God'.

Praise God!

In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[theefaith]

And we can see why trusting in the dogmas, fallibility of men, councils, canons, and teaching is false.

Jesdus HImself said His ?Word is above all! Jesus did not say man shall live by councils, but by the ?word of God!

It is an attack on Jesus and the innocents when crafty men reinterpret the Word of God and substitute that for Gods Word. Like th eperpetual virginity of Mary and Mary's sinlessness!

lk 10:16 Jn 16:13

 

[David in NJ]

Actually - YOU should obey Christ by eating His flesh and drinking his blood - or you will have NO LIFE within you (John 6:53-56).

Good luck with NOT doing that . . .

You do not even know what Jesus said in John 6: 53-56

But i do - therefore i am delivered from the spirit of error.

 

[LTJMP14]

Every faithful Catholic has.

And the same for every faithful Baptist, Methodist, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Anglican, non-denominational, Jew, Arab, et al.

The universal church is all of those in the world who have said yes to God's grace offer and thereafter follow Jesus.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Christ's church is not a building. Christ's church is not a congregation because it invariably is going to be full of unbelievers. Christ's church is not an organization of religious leaders because it, too, will invariably be full of unbelievers. Christ's church is composed of the true believers dispersed among all the fake, hypocritical believers and leaders in our church buildings. Unless you can identify all the true believers and gather them together for a group photo you're not going to see Christ's church. You'll only be able to see individual people in Christ's church.

And NOBODY said His Church is a building.
That's a common anti-Catholic response.

However, His Church IS a visible congregation (Matt. 5:14) - a UNIFIED Body (John 17:20-23).