The problem with the Bible alone!

[BreadOfLife]

The true church is the sum total of all genuine believers. The congregation of true believers has always existed. It didn't begin in either 325 or 1517. Paul warned very early on that savage wolves would come into the church to distort the truth:

"...savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number, men will rise up and distort the truth to draw away disciples after them." Acts 20:29-30
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The Catholic church is the first well known, organized distortion of the truth designed to draw disciples away from the leadership of Christ and his faithful ministers and to the control and oppression of greedy, Spirit-less, carnal leadership. Fallen men are always trying to insert themselves between true believers and God. The true church of Christ remains intact despite the efforts of these blind guides.

I couldn't agree MORE with your comments in RED.

However - your Protestant Fathers divorced themselves from that Church and splintered off into multiple factions that continue splintering to this day.

It's time to come home.

 

[LTJMP14]

I couldn't agree MORE with your comments in RED.

However - your Protestant Fathers divorced themselves from that Church and splintered off into multiple factions that continue splintering to this day.

It's time to come home.

When you say "come home", where is "home"?

 

[BreadOfLife]

Hey

Every false doctrine and error was 'Birthed' into Christianity when the Paul and the other Apostles left this earth = Acts 20

False doctrines were around during THEIR time as well. Ever hear of the Gnostic Heretics?
The 16th century was a banner time for heresy . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

I did already. But it went right over your head.
If the charge of the Catholic church holding back exorbitant wealth for itself was not true you would address that, not tell me I sound like Judas, lol.

Oh - it must have been the fact that YOU failed to tell me how God "disapproved" of the treasures in Solomon's Temple.

Was God "angry" with Solomon for giving him the very BEST - or was He pleased?
Yeah - that's what I thought.

Oh, ummm - "LOL" . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

I belong to the church of believers described in the Bible, not to the corrupt institutions of fallen men. I am a Bible Christian—the Bible composed and written long before the formation of a corrupt Catholic priesthood, with it's meaningless and misguided rituals and ceremonies and rules that says only it is able to tell me what is right and what is wrong. Just the fact that they say that shows they are not of God. They don't seem to know that John said true believers don't need anybody to tell them what teachings are true and which ones are not.

There was NO Bible when the Church was born, my ignorant friend.

There was only the OT -the Law and the Prophets. The NT came FROM the Church - NOT the other way around. And it was the CHURCH - long after the Apostles were dead and gone who declared the Canon of the NT that YOU and every other Protestant adheres to.

And the Catholic priesthood was established at the Last Supper.
WHO do you think wrote the NT . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

By your account, the seventh day adventists are justified in their use of Ellen G. White's writings. And Mormons in their use of the writings of Joseph Smith. And the JW's use of their watchtower.

The Bible is exclusive and sacrosanct except in the cc, sda, lds, and jws.

WRONG.

ALL of those sects were invented in the 19th century - almost 2000 years AFTER the institution of Christ's Church.
Try again . . .

 

[LTJMP14]

Oh - it must have been the fact that YOU failed to tell me how God "disapproved" of the treasures in Solomon's Temple.

Was God "angry" with Solomon for giving him the very BEST - or was He pleased?
Yeah - that's what I thought.

Oh, ummm - "LOL" . . .

God was angry with Solomon. God allowed Solomon wisdom, riches, honor, and long life if he continued in righteousness, but God did not approve of the way Solomon abused that which God allowed Solomonto have. Solomon was disobedient, worshipped other gods, which God then caused the kingdom to be divided.

 

[BreadOfLife]

You do not even know what Jesus said in John 6: 53-56
But i do - therefore i am delivered from the spirit of error.

If YOU reject the Eucharist - then you don't have a CLUE as to what He was talking about in John 6:53-56.

The wirings of the Early Church are UNANIMOUS on this subject.
It wasn't until John Calvin in the 16rg century that SOME Protestants began to reject the Eucharist. Your other Protestant Fathers accepted it.

LOOK it up . . .

 

[LTJMP14]

WRONG.

ALL of those sects were invented in the 19th century - almost 2000 years AFTER the institution of Christ's Church.
Try again . . .

Yes, they are 19th century movements, but the Roman catholic church is no less apostate, it just did so at a much slower pace over a much longer period of time, much like boiling a toad in water: start out with cool water and slowly heat it until it is lulled to a comfy point of no return.

 

[amigo de christo]

YOU made a blanket claim:
"because a true believer equipped with the Spirit of discernment will see their falseness for what it is "

This statement is FALSE in the context YOU give it - and the tens of thousands of disjointed and perpetually-splintering Protestant factions that ALL teach competing doctrines are AMPLE evidence of this.

Those who are equipped with the Spirit of discernment are those faithful members of Christ's Church - and NOT rebellious dissidents.

You cannot rebel against Christ's Church and think you're still on His side.
He equates His very SELF with His Church (Acts 9:4-5).

I dont rebel against the Church of Christ . ITS WHY i wont enter into any of those who do teach falsehoods .
ITs why i warn against the protestant realm in large and against the CC , and mormons and JW and adventist
and Emergent . and TBN , and rick warren , beth moore , piper , paula white and a list so long
neither your or i could count it . WE IN THE MASSIVE FALLING AWAY
where truth is scarecly found in most places . And the whore is causing all to unite under a all inclusive lie
LED by ROME , LED by protestants , led by unbelieving jews , led by buddists , as all religons are uniting only more and more
RIGHT UNDER THE HARLOT . I have prayed for you my friend and i have not shunned to warn some of you .
Thus the train wreck many are headed right into , DONT blame me for it . I TRIED TO DO SOMETHING , but it largely falls on deaf ears .

 

[BreadOfLife]

God was angry with Solomon. God allowed Solomon wisdom, riches, honor, and long life if he continued in righteousness, but God did not approve of the way Solomon abused that which God allowed Solomonto have. Solomon was disobedient, worshipped other gods, which God then caused the kingdom to be divided.

WRONG.

God was NEVER angry with Solomon for building the Temple with all of its treasures.
The Holy Spirit came down and BLESSED the Temple (2 Chron. 7:7).

Try again, Einstein . . .

 

[David H.]

WRONG.

ALL of those sects were invented in the 19th century - almost 2000 years AFTER the institution of Christ's Church.
Try again . . .

Bad argument: the Gnostics have been around long before the Catholic church and we reject them.... Age of institution has nothing to do with whether it is sound doctrinally or not. The word of God is the Judge of the Church. If the church does not agree with the Word of God it is Anathema.

This is a hard pill to swallow for religions who add to the Word of God.

 

[theefaith]

Hello @theefaith,

It is the Bible which contains the doctrines taught by the Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ: Called to that office by the will of God; Whose words are recorded in the Epistles for our learning.

* To call the words, 'The Bible Alone,' a, 'doctrine,' is silly: for it is not a doctrine in itself; it merely points the way to where the doctrines of God, in Christ Jesus, can be found.

* Also who would dream of attacking the Church which is the Body of Christ: Whose 'Head' is Christ, risen and glorified and sat at God's right hand; a position of power and great authority. This Church was not instituted by man, and consists of those whose God is the Lord, and who are trusting in Him for full salvation, rich and free. It's members are largely unknown to one another, not affiliated necessarily to any assembly, but joined by invisible 'joints and bands', by which they are nourished, knit together, and increase with the increase of God. (Colossians 2:9).



Praise God!

* The Bible verses you have quoted, which you say refer to an authority other than the Scriptures, do no such thing. However, some do refer to those who administered God's word during the Acts period, which were Apostles of the risen Christ, and chosen by God to fulfil that purpose: and their words are recorded in God's Word for us to learn thereby:-

Isaiah 22:21-22
Matthew 16:18; Matthew 28:19
Luke 1:32; Luke 10:16
John 8:32; John 13:20; John 15:5; John 16:13; John 20:21-22 John 21:17
The Acts of the Apostles 1:17;
The Acts of the Apostles 1:26
The Acts of the Apostles 2:42
The Acts of the Apostles 8:31
The Acts of the Apostles 8:35
The Acts of the Apostles 20:28
Ephesians 2:20

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Hello @theefaith,

It is the Bible which contains the doctrines taught by the Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ: Called to that office by the will of God; Whose words are recorded in the Epistles for our learning.

* To call the words, 'The Bible Alone,' a, 'doctrine,' is silly: for it is not a doctrine in itself; it merely points the way to where the doctrines of God, in Christ Jesus, can be found.

* Also who would dream of attacking the Church which is the Body of Christ: Whose 'Head' is Christ, risen and glorified and sat at God's right hand; a position of power and great authority. This Church was not instituted by man, and consists of those whose God is the Lord, and who are trusting in Him for full salvation, rich and free. It's members are largely unknown to one another, not affiliated necessarily to any assembly, but joined by invisible 'joints and bands', by which they are nourished, knit together, and increase with the increase of God. (Colossians 2:9).

Praise God!

* The Bible verses you have quoted, which you say refer to an authority other than the Scriptures, do no such thing. However, some do refer to those who administered God's word during the Acts period, which were Apostles of the risen Christ, and chosen by God to fulfil that purpose: and their words are recorded in God's Word for us to learn thereby:-

Isaiah 22:21-22
Matthew 16:18; Matthew 28:19
Luke 1:32; Luke 10:16
John 8:32; John 13:20; John 15:5; John 16:13; John 20:21-22 John 21:17
The Acts of the Apostles 1:17;
The Acts of the Apostles 1:26
The Acts of the Apostles 2:42
The Acts of the Apostles 8:31
The Acts of the Apostles 8:35
The Acts of the Apostles 20:28
Ephesians 2:20

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Is the word of God limited to scripture?

 

[amigo de christo]

WRONG.

God was NEVER angry with Solomon for building the Temple with all of its treasures.
The Holy Spirit came down and BLESSED the Temple (2 Chron. 7:7).

Try again, Einstein . . .

Correct . He was never at all upset with solomon . Just those who later defiled it
and brought in pagan things . Cant mix the HOLY with the unholy . SO TRY TELLING THAT TO POPE FRANCIS .
Kissing on korans is a big thing for them popes and selling lies like we all worship the same GOD . What a mess most folks are in .
Sit under that , NEVER . I refuse this all inclusive fake fraternity of brotherhood that ROME and YES the other religoins too ,
Are all going right under . Its called the falling away , ONLY THEY THINK ITS OF GOD , when in truth
its the dragon at work , playing as though he is god . Folks get out of those places and learn JESUS well .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes, they are 19th century movements, but the Roman catholic church is no less apostate, it just did so at a much slower pace over a much longer period of time, much like boiling a toad in water: start out with cool water and slowly heat it until it is lulled to a comfy point of no return.

And this speaks VOLUMES about YOUR lack of faith.

Jesus guaranteed that His Church would NOT succumb to darkness (Matt. 16:18).
Although He DID warn that some bad people would emerge FROM it (Matt. 7:15-20) but not overtake it.

The fact that YOU believe it did succumb speaks VOLUMES about your lack of faith.

 

[amigo de christo]

Is the word of God limited to scripture?

Its limited in one sense . REST assured IF GOD speaks through a man , a prophet or etc
And that word does NOT AGREE with the truth in that bible , THEN ITS OF SATAN .
COME YE OUT my peoples , COME YE OUT of all houses who are blending truth with lies and making
a cake with wicked leaven and mixture of the holy with the profane . THIS all inclusive unity that Rome and others sell
IS a cake baked . And all who do bake it fall alseep and when they awake in the morning its burned black to a crisp .
SO too shall all those who partake of the whores cup and her all inclusive cake shall be found on the day of the LORD .
FOR MIGHTY IS THE LORD MY GOD WHO JUDGES THE WHORE and her children . COME YE OUT from amonst them
that none does partake of her sins and then RECIEVE of the plagues that GOD shall send against Her and all her we are one children .

 

[LTJMP14]

Correct . He was never at all upset with solomon . Just those who later defiled it
and brought in pagan things . Cant mix the HOLY with the unholy . SO TRY TELLING THAT TO POPE FRANCIS .
Kissing on korans is a big thing for them popes and selling lies like we all worship the same GOD . What a mess most folks are in .
Sit under that , NEVER . I refuse this all inclusive fake fraternity of brotherhood that ROME and YES the other religoins too ,
Are all going right under . Its called the falling away , ONLY THEY THINK ITS OF GOD , when in truth
its the dragon at work , playing as though he is god . Folks get out of those places and learn JESUS well .

You're both wrong: God was angry with Solomon: 1 Kings 11: "1 King Solomon, however, loved many foreign women along with the daughter of Pharaoh—women of Moab, Ammon, Edom, and Sidon, as well as Hittite women. 2 These women were from the nations about which the LORD had told the Israelites, “You must not intermarry with them, for surely they will turn your hearts after their gods.” Yet Solomon clung to these women in love. 3 He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines—and his wives turned his heart away. 4 For when Solomon grew old, his wives turned his heart after other gods, and he was not wholeheartedly devoted to the LORD his God, as his father David had been. 5 Solomon followed Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians and Milcoma the abomination of the Ammonites. 6 So Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD; unlike his father David, he did not follow the LORD completely. 7 At that time on a hill east of Jerusalem, Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the abomination of Moab and for Molech the abomination of the Ammonites. 8 He did the same for all his foreign wives, who burned incense and sacrificed to their gods. 9 Now the LORD grew angry with Solomon, because his heart had turned away from the LORD, the God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice. 10 Although He had warned Solomon explicitly not to follow other gods, Solomon did not keep the LORD’s command.
11 Then the LORD said to Solomon, “Because you have done this and have not kept My covenant and My statutes, which I have commanded you, I will tear the kingdom away from you and give it to your servant. 12 Nevertheless, for the sake of your father David, I will not do it during your lifetime; I will tear it out of the hand of your son. 13 Yet I will not tear the whole kingdom away from him. I will give one tribe to your son for the sake of My servant David and for the sake of Jerusalem, which I have chosen.”
14 Then the LORD raised up against Solomon an adversary, Hadad the Edomite, from the royal line of Edom."

 

[BreadOfLife]

Correct . He was never at all upset with solomon . Just those who later defiled it
and brought in pagan things . Cant mix the HOLY with the unholy .
SO TRY TELLING THAT TO POPE FRANCIS .
Kissing on korans is a big thing for them popes and selling lies like we all worship the same GOD . What a mess most folks are in .
Sit under that , NEVER . I refuse this all inclusive fake fraternity of brotherhood that ROME and YES the other religoins too ,
Are all going right under . Its called the falling away , ONLY THEY THINK ITS OF GOD , when in truth
its the dragon at work , playing as though he is god . Folks get out of those places and learn JESUS well .

Your posts get more and more stupid as you go along - and this one is NO different.

Ummmmm, it wasn't Pope Francis who kissed the Quran, Einstein - it was Pope John Paul II. He was showing appreciation for a gift given to him by a Muslim leader who he was trying to have a peaceful dialogue with. He wasn't agreeing with what was on the pages of that book.

But that's okay - I expect an even more stupid response from you the next time . . .

 

[David H.]

Is the word of God limited to scripture?

God is raising up a remnant Holy and devoted to the truth of the Word of God. The Word of God is alive in them and cuts to the marrow perfecting the Love of God in them. God still speaks to his people and they grow in their relationship with Him. Are you a part of that Holy Remnant? Do you know Jesus and does He Know you?

Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. (Hebrews 12:1-2)

 

[amigo de christo]

Read much? God was angry with Solomon's disobedience, which is why God divided the kingdom. You're not a dunce, just an arrogant prideful punk. Are you also homosexual?

I think bread of life misunderstood this . He thinks you meant GOD was angry at solomon for building the temple .
BUT Your are right my friend . GOD was angry at solomon , for agreeing with other gods as well .
THAT was why The kingdom was divided during HIS SONS REIGN . GOD dont want us mixing HIM with other gods .
NOW GO TELL THIS to the popes and pope francis , CAUSE ITS EXACTLY WHAT THEY DO . Saying all paths , all religoins
serving the same GOD nonsense . The man even declared that one who prolesytizes the gospel aint even christain . What a man of belial
that pope truly is . This whole world and most all churches even , are in a total mess these days .
Let the lambs CLING TO JESUS and learn our bibles well .