Bible alone!

[Truther]

I know this is a joke
At any rate I’ll ask

what did Christians do before 1611
What authority does a king have to decide scripture?
What if you can’t read or afford a bible?

#1...run from Catholic powers.

#2...James never decided scripture, but ordered it translated by 50 scholars over several years. He made the English Bible legal to all citizens.

#3...King James(and the printing press) made it affordable.

 

[David in NJ]

Amen. Sola scriptura!

Sola Scriptura, where idols are crushed to dust, where religion dies, where men come ALIVE
and where God is Glorified.

 

[theefaith]

#1...run from Catholic powers.

#2...James never decided scripture, but ordered it translated by 50 scholars over several years. He made the English Bible legal to all citizens.

#3...King James(and the printing press) made it affordable.

bibles were not affordable or common till the 20th century

no authority ok
Translating is not the same as decide what books chapters and verses are scripture
That falls under the jurisdictional authority of Peter and his successors

 

[Truther]

bibles were not affordable or common till the 20th century

no authority ok
Translating is not the same as decide what books chapters and verses are scripture
That falls under the jurisdictional authority of Peter and his successors

The 1611 Bible was not affordable? Very funny

 

[David in NJ]

Amen. Sola scriptura!

This is My Story

Born into religion yet lost in sin
Needing a Savior was told would Win
God was calling while life was so fun
His Love so drawing i began to run
Not away to go further astray
But gathering me near i lost all fear
Tears of Joy ran down my face
Now i was in Him and winning the Race
A stumble hear a stumble there
His Love did not falter it remains here
Now i am old longing for Home
Waiting for His Return coming to the Dome
Do not delay Time is running out
Give God the Glory Before the Angels Shout
Hurry, Hurry now get in the Ark
for the day draws near when All will grow Dark.
Run to Him now, make swift your flight,
for when that Day Comes He will be your LIGHT
AMEN

 

[n2thelight]

Good enough for Angels!
Good enough for the Bible!
Good enough for me!

Hail Mary! Full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou among women,
Lk 1:28 blessed is the fruit of thy womb, (Jesus) Lk 1:42 Holy Mary, mother of God, Lk 1:43 pray for us sinners, now,
rev 5:8 and at the hour of our death, Matt 24:13 amen!

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!


Proving That Mary is not a goddess and this tittle does not apply to Mary most holy, ever virgin mother of God!

Lk 1:28 Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou amounts women.

How can a goddess be full of grace?
Hail Mary full of grace!

How can the Lord be with a goddess?
The lord is with thee!

How can a goddess be blessed!
Blessed art thou, and all generations shall call me blessed!

Lk 1: 43 And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

How can a goddess be the mother of God?

Lk 1: 45 And blessed is she that believed: for there shall be a performance of those things which were told her from the Lord.

How could a goddess be faithful?

Lk 1: 46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord,

47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

How could a goddess glorify God or have a savior?

Lk 1:48 For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

How could a goddess be humble?

Lk 1:49 For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name.

How could a goddess be the immaculate conception and the have the Holy Spirit accomplish the Miraculous conception of Jesus?

Matt 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

How could a goddess be a perpetual Virgin bringing forth the savior of the world?

Jn 19:27 Then saith he to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home.

How could a goddess be our spiritual mother?

A good tree!

Matthew 7:18
A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

The fruit of the tree of Mary is our salvation! Lk 2:30 Jesus is our salvation!
Lk 1:30 Mary found our salvation!

IMHO ,that's paganism at it's finest .

Ain't but two tree's , and Mary ain't one of them

 

[Truther]

This is My Story

Born into religion yet lost in sin
Needing a Savior was told would Win
God was calling while life was so fun
His Love so drawing i began to run
Not away to go further astray
But gathering me near i lost all fear
Tears of Joy ran down my face
Now i was in Him and winning the Race
A stumble hear a stumble there
His Love did not falter it remains here
Now i am old longing for Home
Waiting for His Return coming to the Dome
Do not delay Time is running out
Give God the Glory Before the Angels Shout
Hurry, Hurry now get in the Ark
for the day draws near when All will grow Dark.
Run to Him now, make swift your flight,
for when that Day Comes He will be your LIGHT
AMEN

Awesome

 

[Ferris Bueller]

that’s not biblical

Jesus Christ is the head of the church, (eph 5:23) the body of Christ,
(col 1:18) the new and eternal covenant, (pre-figured Jer 31:31) (Heb 8:8) new covenant replaces the Mosaic covenant, (Heb 8:13) holy mother church replaced Israel Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
Christ replaces David as king, (Lk 1:32-33) Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and men, (1 Tim 2:5 & Heb 12:24) but a mediator remains on earth mediating between God and His people, but Christ ascended to heaven, (acts 1) before He did He founded His church, on Peter, and the apostles, and their successors!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 2:42 acts 8:31 & 35 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 16:13
Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20

Jesus Christ continues HIS ministry in His new covenant church thru Peter, the apostles, and their successors with the same mission, power, and authority!
Mt 16:18 Mt 28:19 Acts 1:17 acts 8:31 & 35 acts 9:4 Lk 10:16 Jn 8:32 Jn 13:20 Jn 15:5 Jn 16:13 Jn 20:21-22 eph 2:20 acts 2:42 1 Tim 3:15

Except for a couple of points here Protestants are generally not in disagreement with this. What you aren't getting is we disagree on the claims that the institution of the Catholic church is the continuation of Christ's ministry in the earth. And we disagree on the level of authority the Catholic church says it has. For example, it's claim that only it can discern what is truth and what is not, above and beyond the anointing God said the individual believer has been given so he can do that himself. The Catholic church robs the people of God the protection God has given every believer to guard himself against falseness and deceit.

 

[theefaith]

IMHO ,that's paganism at it's finest .

Ain't but two tree's , and Mary ain't one of them

scripture is pagan now?

 

[theefaith]

Except for a couple of points here Protestants are generally not in disagreement with this. What you aren't getting is we disagree on the claims that the institution of the Catholic church is the continuation of Christ's ministry in the earth. And we disagree on the level of authority the Catholic church says it has. For example, it's claim that only it can discern what is truth and what is not, above and beyond the anointing God said the individual believer has been given so he can do that himself. The Catholic church robs the people of God the protection God has given every believer to guard himself against falseness and deceit.

In that case we could all believe different things

Eph 4:5 one faith Jude 1:3 thee faith

Ephesians 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure ofthe stature of the fulness of Christ:

that’s what scripture demands and it can only be obtained by the hierarchical teaching authority of the apostles

 

[Ferris Bueller]

In that case we could all believe different things

Yes, but only true believers will possess the truth.

Ephesians 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure ofthe stature of the fulness of Christ:

that’s what scripture demands and it can only be obtained by the hierarchical teaching authority of the apostles

The knowledge of the truth is taught through the recorded words of the Apostles. But the discerning of that truth is an individual anointing. No hierarchical authority discerns the truth for the individual believers. That is an enablement that God has given directly to the believer himself in this New Covenant, thus ending the corrupt system of the people of God being at the mercy of mere mortals in discerning if what they are taught is true or if it is false. You don't seem to be getting this. If you did, and you were honest, you'd realize that the Catholic leadership reveals themselves to be false by insisting that John is wrong and that the believer does not have the anointing to discern true teaching from false for himself and that they need them to know truth from falseness.

 

[theefaith]

Yes, but only true believers will possess the truth.


The knowledge of the truth is taught through the recorded words of the Apostles. But the discerning of that truth is an individual anointing. No hierarchical authority discerns the truth for the individual believers. That is an enablement that God has given directly to the believer himself in this New Covenant, thus ending the corrupt system of the people of God being at the mercy of mere mortals in discerning if what they are taught is true or if it is false. You don't seem to be getting this. If you did, and you were honest, you'd realize that the Catholic leadership reveals themselves to be false by insisting that John is wrong and that the believer does not have the anointing to discern true teaching from false for himself and that they need them to know truth from falseness.

2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

 

[David in NJ]

scripture is pagan now?

Religious pagans, false apostles, false prophets, false christs, false teachers love scripture.
They use it to deceive by twisting, just as their master taught them - "wide is the path and twisting is the way that leads to death."

Who was the first 'twister' found in Scripture?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

2 Peter 1:20
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

That is right. We have gifted people among us believers who can interpret scripture, and each believer has the Holy Spirit to discern whether or not what a person is teaching them is true or not. Don't need no Catholic priesthood to do that! The gifts of the Spirit are not reserved for a Catholic priesthood. They are distributed among all believers. And all believers have the anointing to discern if what other believers serve up is true or not. But you Catholics are sure this only happens via your priesthood. That does not jibe with the scriptures. Anyone who will read the scriptures and has the Holy Spirit knows this.

 

[theefaith]

That is right. We have gifted people among us believers who can interpret scripture, and each believer has the Holy Spirit to discern whether or not what a person is teaching them is true or not. Don't need no Catholic priesthood to do that! The gifts of the Spirit are not reserved for a Catholic priesthood. They are distributed among all believers. And all believers have the anointing to discern if what other believers serve up is true or not. But you Catholics are sure this only happens via your priesthood. That does not jibe with the scriptures. Anyone who will read the scriptures and has the Holy Spirit knows this.

Myra you do need the priesthood of Christ thru the apostles to do that
Without it you have no bible and CANNOT know what is and what is not the scripture

 

[theefaith]

Sorry Myra should be yes
Yes you do need

 

[David in NJ]

That is right. We have gifted people among us believers who can interpret scripture, and each believer has the Holy Spirit to discern whether or not what a person is teaching them is true or not. Don't need no Catholic priesthood to do that! The gifts of the Spirit are not reserved for a Catholic priesthood. They are distributed among all believers. And all believers have the anointing to discern if what other believers serve up is true or not. But you Catholics are sure this only happens via your priesthood. That does not jibe with the scriptures. Anyone who will read the scriptures and has the Holy Spirit knows this.

IF, each believer has the Holy Spirit, then why all the confusion???

 

[David in NJ]

Myra you do need the priesthood of Christ thru the apostles to do that
Without it you have no bible and CANNOT know what is and what is not the scripture

TWISTED false teaching. You lack the fear of the Lord and thus you lack wisdom unto Salvation.

 

[theefaith]

IF, each believer has the Holy Spirit, then why all the confusion???

Jn 16:13 HS leads the apostles into all truth then Matt 28:19 they teach us

 

[theefaith]

TWISTED false teaching. You lack the fear of the Lord and thus you lack wisdom unto Salvation.

it is the authority of Christ that the apostles teach with
Matt 28:19