Do you accept this a Biblical fact or fiction?:

[michaelvpardo]

Let me ask you then Mike, if Jesus is God then he obviously lied at Mk 10:40 and 13:32. What hope does the world have if God is a liar?

I'm sorry but your conclusion is an absurdity. Scripture, not just men, teaches that God humbled Himself to take the form of a servant, that God the creator of the universe, divested Himself of power and authority to become a man. Perhaps you don't like the concept of Jesus being fully God and fully man, but that's been accepted sound doctrine for nearly 2000 years.
But this is my biblical response to you:
8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; 10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power. Colossians 2:8-10
I know the Lord better than any other person I've known in my life, including my parents and former wife. I trust Him and He is no liar.

 

[michaelvpardo]

'I have said, Ye are gods;
and all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men,
and fall like one of the princes.'
(Psa 82:6)

Hello @amadeus,

This is a direct reference to Exodus 22: and referred to in John 10:34-35.

In Psalm 82, the word 'gods' refer to those earthly judges who represent God in Israel's civil assembly: such as Moses (Exodus 7:1 & Exodus 4:16)). It is used also of idols as representing false gods.

'Jesus answered them,
Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
If He called them gods, unto whom the word of God came,
and the scripture cannot be broken;
Say ye of Him, Whom the Father hath sanctified,
and sent into the world, "Thou blasphemest";
because I said, "I am the Son of God?"
(John 10:34-36)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Thank you so much for your scriptural references. I managed to completely forget psalm 82 in my study regarding the judgment of the heavenly host.
In order for them to die as men they'll have to be made to live as men, with physical bodies and suffering all the indignities of life. That's reason enough for a thousand year kingdom ruled over by the saints.

 

[charity]

And He saith unto them,
Ye shall drink indeed of My cup,
and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with:
but to sit on My right hand, and on My left, is not Mine to give,
but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of My Father. '
(Mat 20:23 cp. Mark 10:40)

'But of that day and that hour knoweth no man,
no, not the angels which are in heaven,
neither the Son,
but the Father.'
(Mar 13:32)

Hello @michaelvpardo,

'For in Him (Christ) dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.'
(Col 2:9)

Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Chris

 

[michaelvpardo]

'The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit Thou at My right hand,
until I make Thine enemies Thy footstool.'
(Psalm 110:1)

Hello @Robert Gwin,

I am not aware of any 'alteration', I simply quoted Psalm 110:1, and pointed out two of the names used of God, within different contexts, which are used there. Both are used of God:- (Jehovah) used of God in relationship with His People, and 'Adon', which is used in relation to His Lordship as ruler in the Earth.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

I understand Mr. Gwin's argument in that all biblical translations tend to reflect the faith of the translators, their understanding of doctrine, where the original language leaves room for multiple translations. That's why cultists who deny the divinity of Christ have consistently offered their own "corrected" translation or "corrected" interpretation. That's also why even mainstream publishers are creating gender neutral translations which clearly alter the interpretation and understanding of scripture. (If I'm unable to accept the disparate roles of men and women in scripture, then just give me a bible that minimizes that disparity.)

 

[charity]

Charity said:-
'I have said, Ye are gods;
and all of you are children of the most High.
But ye shall die like men,
and fall like one of the princes.'
(Psa 82:6)

Hello @amadeus,

This is a direct reference to Exodus 22: and referred to in John 10:34-35.

In Psalm 82, the word 'gods' refer to those earthly judges who represent God in Israel's civil assembly: such as Moses (Exodus 7:1 & Exodus 4:16)). It is used also of idols as representing false gods.

'Jesus answered them,
Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?
If He called them gods, unto whom the word of God came,
and the scripture cannot be broken;
Say ye of Him, Whom the Father hath sanctified,
and sent into the world, "Thou blasphemest";
because I said, "I am the Son of God?"
(John 10:34-36)

Thank you so much for your scriptural references. I managed to completely forget psalm 82 in my study regarding the judgment of the heavenly host.
In order for them to die as men they'll have to be made to live as men, with physical bodies and suffering all the indignities of life. That's reason enough for a thousand year kingdom ruled over by the saints.

Hello @michaelvpardo,

Yet, I understand the word 'gods' in the case of Psalm 82:6 to refer to men who represent God regarding civil affairs in the assembly of Israel, such as Moses for example (references above), who act as judges on God's behalf (Exodus 7:1 & Exodus 4:16).

Though I know that angels are also referred to in this way sometimes too.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[michaelvpardo]

"I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." Psalm 82:6

So then reading that, what is Jesus saying in the following verse? Can someone explain it clearly?

"That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me." John 17:21

Could it mean that we, you and I and the other guy, could become part of the God, making Him not a Trinity, but a Multiplicity?

Is Jesus' prayer for naught? Was/is Jesus a righteous man?


"... The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much." James 5:16

Or do these words apply here?

"So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it." Isaiah 55:11

If God removed everything in us that was us after receiving His Spirit, then yes, God would be a multiplicity like the Hindu and Buddhists imagine, but He obviously doesn't do that in our lifetime and I see no indication in scripture that this is any part of His plan for the resurrection.
Scripture tells us that God's purpose in us is to renew us in the likeness of His Son, but we remain unique individuals with our own experiences, our own personalities, our own destinies.
One of the larger problems in Christianity today is the adoption of foreign concepts of the godhead from other faiths, predominantly of Buddhist, Hindu and other far eastern belief "systems". Those who believe the bhagavad gita have no trouble accepting Jesus as God, because they believe in Avatars, God becoming men at various times in history. I've had conversations with Hindu "converts" to Christianity who see Jesus in exactly that light, because they see scripture the same way as their own Hindu religious texts, as entirely symbolic. I'm pretty sure we have some American versions of the same abstract bent right here on these forums. Unfortunately, by definition they're believing in "another Jesus", not the "only begotten Son of God."

 

[michaelvpardo]

Hello @michaelvpardo,

Yet, I understand the word 'gods' in the case of Psalm 82:6 to refer to men who represent God regarding civil affairs in the assembly of Israel, such as Moses for example (references above), who act as judges on God's behalf (Exodus 7:1 & Exodus 4:16).

Though I know that angels are also referred to in this way sometimes too.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

Well, I think what's unique about those men such as Moses, is that scripture typically identifies them as those who have God's Spirit or have known God's presence. The prophet of God (the genuine prophet) speaks on behalf of God and scripture informs me that what he speaks is through the Holy Spirit. Even the elders of Israel that were called upon to assist Moses with the judgment of legal disputes became recipients of the same Spirit.
It seems from various passages that the sons of God all have that relationship through possession of His Spirit and that the fallen are all who have that relationship broken by sin. God is the Father of all spirits whether faithful or fallen and the ministry of Christ is the ministry of reconciliation to God.

 

[amadeus]

If God removed everything in us that was us after receiving His Spirit, then yes, God would be a multiplicity like the Hindu and Buddhists imagine, but He obviously doesn't do that in our lifetime and I see no indication in scripture that this is any part of His plan for the resurrection.

I do not believe in a Multiplicity, but chapter 17 of John raised the question in me a very long time ago with regard to the insistence of some in a belief in a Trinity.

Since beginning to read a Bible for the first time in 1976, I have never been a Trinitarian. [I was a nominal Trinitarian during my active years as a very young Catholic.]

I have asked many people on many forums about the Multiplicity previously and you are the first one I can recall that has ever even made a stab at a real answer.

I do not believe that people have to have an answer that satisfies human logic to every question anyone could ask. Many it seems avoid answering my question at all.

I have my own thoughts on an answer, but that is where I am. No one has to be where I am. I am not God.

Some people believing that others must be where they are raise serious questions in me which I may or may not voice in our conversations. We are according to scripture to live by faith, but some insist knowledge is necessary and they have that knowledge.

Scripture tells us that God's purpose in us is to renew us in the likeness of His Son, but we remain unique individuals with our own experiences, our own personalities, our own destinies.
One of the larger problems in Christianity today is the adoption of foreign concepts of the godhead from other faiths, predominantly of Buddhist, Hindu and other far eastern belief "systems". Those who believe the bhagavad gita have no trouble accepting Jesus as God, because they believe in Avatars, God becoming men at various times in history. I've had conversations with Hindu "converts" to Christianity who see Jesus in exactly that light, because they see scripture the same way as their own Hindu religious texts, as entirely symbolic. I'm pretty sure we have some American versions of the same abstract bent right here on these forums. Unfortunately, by definition they're believing in "another Jesus", not the "only begotten Son of God."

While never putting much, or any, study into far eastern religions, I know that people do get mixed up when they have delved into such things. We do need to have our slate clean or empty and then hopefully allow God to fill it when and as He sees fit. He will not leave us without anything that is needed. God alone always knows what is needed. What we want, may or may not be what God knows that we need.

I would leave some blank spaces in my overall belief rather than accept what others believe simply so as to have a more complete picture. As a young Christian, I did exactly that in my ignorance [accepted the beliefs of others] and it resulted in some heart aches.

The complete picture of God's plan and our place in it is very definite. God sees it, but we do not see it so well although our vision should always be improving. People who are unable to consider the possibility of their own errors in the vision they have may well be blocking God when He would like to be making corrections or filling blank spaces in them.

"And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live." Exodus 33:20

"Where there is no vision, the people
perish:... Prov 29:18

When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek." Psalm 27:8

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." I Cor 13:12

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is" I John 3:2

 

[michaelvpardo]

19 And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; 20 knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, 21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. 2 Peter 1:19-21

 

[michaelvpardo]

I do not believe in a Multiplicity, but chapter 17 of John raised the question in me a very long time ago with regard to the insistence of some in a belief in a Trinity.

Since beginning to read a Bible for the first time in 1976, I have never been a Trinitarian. [I was a nominal Trinitarian during my active years as a very young Catholic.]

I have asked many people on many forums about the Multiplicity previously and you are the first one I can recall that has ever even made a stab at a real answer.

I do not believe that people have to have an answer that satisfies human logic to every question anyone could ask. Many it seems avoid answering my question at all.

I have my own thoughts on an answer, but that is where I am. No one has to be where I am. I am not God.

Some people believing that others must be where they are raise serious questions in me which I may or may not voice in our conversations. We are according to scripture to live by faith, but some insist knowledge is necessary and they have that knowledge.

While never putting much, or any, study into far eastern religions, I know that people do get mixed up when they have delved into such things. We do need to have our slate clean or empty and then hopefully allow God to fill it when and as He sees fit. He will not leave us without anything that is needed. God alone always knows what is needed. What we want, may or may not be what God knows that we need.

I would leave some blank spaces in my overall belief rather than accept what others believe simply so as to have a more complete picture. As a young Christian, I did exactly that in my ignorance [accepted the beliefs of others] and it resulted in some heart aches.

The complete picture of God's plan and our place in it is very definite. God sees it, but we do not see it so well although our vision should always be improving. People who are unable to consider the possibility of their own errors in the vision they have may well be blocking God when He would like to be making corrections or filling blank spaces in them.

"And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live." Exodus 33:20

"Where there is no vision, the people
perish:... Prov 29:18

When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek." Psalm 27:8

"For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." I Cor 13:12

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is" I John 3:2

I've said it before, but I'll say it again as you've pointed out yourself. People can't move their understanding beyond a lie or false belief that they've accepted as true, unless or until they recognize that error in their thinking. That's always a problem when you "lean on your own understanding " or base your faith on knowledge rather than on relationship.

When Jesus taught the disciples how they should pray, He started with the words "Our Father who is in heaven", not "our God who we read about in scripture."
I don't mean to undervalue scripture because clearly :
So He humbled you, allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna which you did not know nor did your fathers know, that He might make you know that man shall not live by bread alone; but man lives by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord. Deuteronomy 8:3
However, it is our relationship with God that either saves us or condemns us.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:10-13
I suspect that I'm preaching to the choir here as I recognize you as a brother in the faith, but I'd be lying if I said the same of a person trusting in their religion or knowledge.

 

[amadeus]

I've said it before, but I'll say it again as you've pointed out yourself. People can't move their understanding beyond a lie or false belief that they've accepted as true, unless or until they recognize that error in their thinking. That's always a problem when you "lean on your own understanding " or base your faith on knowledge rather than on relationship.

When Jesus taught the disciples how they should pray, He started with the words "Our Father who is in heaven", not "our God who we read about in scripture."
I don't mean to undervalue scripture because clearly :
So He humbled you, allowed you to hunger, and fed you with manna which you did not know nor did your fathers know, that He might make you know that man shall not live by bread alone; but man lives by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Lord. Deuteronomy 8:3
However, it is our relationship with God that either saves us or condemns us.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him. 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: 13 who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. John 1:10-13
I suspect that I'm preaching to the choir here as I recognize you as a brother in the faith, but I'd be lying if I said the same of a person trusting in their religion or knowledge.

Give God the glory!

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Jesus is the child in Isa 9:6 maam. Jehovah is actually in the Greek scriptures but of course the original Bible does not exist. Perhaps you don't realize but many verses were quotations from the Hebrew scriptures, perhaps you can observe that for yourself if you have a cross reference Bible. A couple of good examples is Mat 4:10 and Romans 10:13; in fact if one wasn't aware that Paul was quoting Joel 2:32 at Romans 10:13, one would think that you would have to call on Jesus' name rather than Jehovah's. The New World translation of the Holy Scriptures restored Jehovah as it originally was written in the "New Testament" maam. You wouldn't think that Jesus and Paul would alter the words when they quoted them do you?

I didn't tell you where the words Jesus quoted in Mat 4:10, do you know where it was written maam?

The Word Jehovah is relating to the OT God and it should not be used in the Christian context of God, because people who use such are not truly born again. not to mention that such people reject the Trinity as well and that proves that they are not truly born again. they are lost !
When mentioning the word God, such could be anything, one has to be carful in discerning what is meant by such.
We see Pope Francis steering clear of mentioning the words Jesus Christ 24/7 but mentions the word God or is it god ? but the fool claims that the god of the Jews and the god of the Islamic world is the same god as he worships ? but the fact is that the Jews do not worship God at all and nor does Islam at all in fact, they worship gods in fact, the true Israelites back in the days worshiped God as far as they knew of such but not all of the Jews were worthy of being Israelites in fact, just as all who are claiming to be Christians are not worthy of Jesus Christ in fact and the Bible points this out of all Jews and Christians in fact, they who say lord lord ? and the fact of the matter conserving Pope Frances lie that all are worshiping the same God, is that the Bible says that, No one come to the Father (God) but through his only begotten Son ! so that counts out Jews and Islam directly in fact.
Now some Christians believe that the 2ed coming is Jesus in the flesh ? that's not Biblical true, there is only one Christ Jesus and not 2 ? see that the Bible says, His only begotten Son ? and also Man is only appointed to live once ! not 2 times in the flesh. Christ Flesh was not worthy for peoples Souls, the Disciples did not know truly who he was until he went to Heaven and it was only then that the penny dropped as to who he truly is. that was the Holy Spirit that gave them the Key to that fact.

 

[keithr]

And again I am not debating the fact the Father is more exalted and greater than Jesus in position. The Father is above all!

But that does not negate the fact that jesus is equally divine in His person as teh Father is.

Lesser in position, equal in divinity.

As I understand it, believers in the Trinity believe that Jesus is God, and by referring to Jesus as being divine, or equally divine as his Father, they mean that they believe Jesus is part of God (God being made up of three persons in their belief), and that he has the same spirit being nature as his Father. However, if a person has the same nature as our heavenly Father that does not mean that he is our Father and our God. Jesus now has the same divine nature as God (Yahweh), but that does not mean that God is a Binity, Trinity or any other combination of persons.

Deuteronomy 6:4 (WEB): "Hear, Israel: Yahweh is our God. Yahweh is one."

2 Peter 1:4 (WEB): by which he has granted to us his precious and exceedingly great promises; that through these you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.
1 John 3:2 (WEB): Beloved, now we are children of God, and it is not yet revealed what we will be. But we know that when he is revealed, we will be like him; for we will see him just as he is.

God is calling us to become His children, to become just like Jesus, to have the divine nature. So clearly, Jesus having the divine nature, his divinity, does not mean that he is God, just as when we gain the divine nature in our resurrection does not mean that we become God. God will still be greater than us, more powerful, more knowledgable, more intelligent and more glorious - just as He is greater than Jesus. He will still be just one almighty God.

Concerning the resurrection body of Christians, Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15 (WEB):
41) There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
42) So also is the resurrection of the dead. The body is sown perishable; it is raised imperishable.

So after our resurrection we won't all be equal in glory, and God will alway be more glorious than His sons, including His only-begotten son Jesus.

Philppians 2:6 (WEB): who [Jesus], existing in the form of God, didn’t consider equality with God a thing to be grasped,

 

[Robert Gwin]

Just out of curiosity, what are the other 2 translations you recommend?

I recommend these:
1. New World Translation
2. American Standard Version


The main reason of the order of my selection is because of God's name. The KJV does make known Jehovah's name, but it is very limited in doing so, but because it was to be the main version used by the world past for centuries, Jehovah did protect His name from being omitted entirely, therefore I believe that He accepts it.

Now that the New World Translation has emerged, my personal opinion is that it is the easiest one to understand, therefore reducing the effort needed to find truth.

 

[Robert Gwin]

'The LORD said unto my Lord,
Sit Thou at My right hand,
until I make Thine enemies Thy footstool.'
(Psalm 110:1)

Hello @Robert Gwin,

I am not aware of any 'alteration', I simply quoted Psalm 110:1, and pointed out two of the names used of God, within different contexts, which are used there. Both are used of God:- (Jehovah) used of God in relationship with His People, and 'Adon', which is used in relation to His Lordship as ruler in the Earth.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

You yourself put Jehovah in parenthesis after it. LORD is not what was there as you mentioned Adon for the second Lord, the original written verse stated Jehovah said to my Lord which was God saying to Jesus. Light research will reveal that wherever the KJV capitalizes all the letters of LORD that is where the Divine Name YHWH was, not Adonai. Some versions have a forward that explains the reason why they chose to alter the Divine name in their version. You of course have to determine the truth for yourself, as what I am telling you is either correct or false.

 

[Robert Gwin]

'The light of the body is the eye:
if therefore thine eye be single,
thy whole body shall be full of light.
But if thine eye be evil,
thy whole body shall be full of darkness.
If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness,
how great is that darkness!'
(Mat 6:22-23)

Hello @Robert Gwin,

The words highlighted above I find awesome. 'If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness'.

How careful we must be to ensure that the 'light' that we have received is indeed not 'darkness' masquerading as light: For if it is. then we are of all people most miserable, for we are in a state of deception.

Within the love of Christ Jesus our living Lord and Saviour.
Chris

Yes maam I fully agree, satan is extremely good at what he does. He is infinitely more powerful than us for sure, but keep in mind he has no power over Jehovah, who protects His people, he only has power over those who allow it.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Yes and when you deny the divinity of Jesus as explicitly and unambiguously declared in Gods inerrant word- you speak fiction Robert.

I will write it once again Ron, I worship and serve Jehovah as the true God and Him alone do I serve, echoing the very words of Jesus to satan at Mat 4:10. Now I am either correct in that or not, but I do not believe for one second that Jesus was wrong, and I personally recommend that you dig into it deeper, as knowing God is a requirement for everlasting life sir 2 Thes 1:8

 

[Robert Gwin]

I'm sorry but your conclusion is an absurdity. Scripture, not just men, teaches that God humbled Himself to take the form of a servant, that God the creator of the universe, divested Himself of power and authority to become a man. Perhaps you don't like the concept of Jesus being fully God and fully man, but that's been accepted sound doctrine for nearly 2000 years.
But this is my biblical response to you:
8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; 10 and you are complete in Him, who is the head of all principality and power. Colossians 2:8-10
I know the Lord better than any other person I've known in my life, including my parents and former wife. I trust Him and He is no liar.

The Bible doesn't teach that sir, and what I said is simply truth, any honest individual knows that God has the right to determine who sits where, and Jesus clearly stated Jehovah knew the day and hour but he did not, if he did then obviously it is a lie. I recommend that you do further research on who God is, as your everlasting life depends on knowing God 2 Thes 1:8

 

[Taken]

Do you accept this a Biblical fact or fiction?:
^OP

Which book, that is being called The BIBLE?

 

[Robert Gwin]

The Word Jehovah is relating to the OT God and it should not be used in the Christian context of God, because people who use such are not truly born again. not to mention that such people reject the Trinity as well and that proves that they are not truly born again. they are lost !
When mentioning the word God, such could be anything, one has to be carful in discerning what is meant by such.
We see Pope Francis steering clear of mentioning the words Jesus Christ 24/7 but mentions the word God or is it god ? but the fool claims that the god of the Jews and the god of the Islamic world is the same god as he worships ? but the fact is that the Jews do not worship God at all and nor does Islam at all in fact, they worship gods in fact, the true Israelites back in the days worshiped God as far as they knew of such but not all of the Jews were worthy of being Israelites in fact, just as all who are claiming to be Christians are not worthy of Jesus Christ in fact and the Bible points this out of all Jews and Christians in fact, they who say lord lord ? and the fact of the matter conserving Pope Frances lie that all are worshiping the same God, is that the Bible says that, No one come to the Father (God) but through his only begotten Son ! so that counts out Jews and Islam directly in fact.
Now some Christians believe that the 2ed coming is Jesus in the flesh ? that's not Biblical true, there is only one Christ Jesus and not 2 ? see that the Bible says, His only begotten Son ? and also Man is only appointed to live once ! not 2 times in the flesh. Christ Flesh was not worthy for peoples Souls, the Disciples did not know truly who he was until he went to Heaven and it was only then that the penny dropped as to who he truly is. that was the Holy Spirit that gave them the Key to that fact.

Hi Reggie, in reality God is God in all time periods. There is no old and new testament to the Bible, that is a name given to it by men to distinguish the language changes of the Bible writers, we believe that Genesis through Matthew was written mostly in Hebrew, while Mark through revelation was penned in Greek. What is considered as the New Testament however does parallel the new covenant, which leads people to believe that is what it is about. The Bible is 66 small books that make up the complete. It is all God's word, the same God. We agree that Jesus will not come in the flesh again. In English God's name is Jehovah, His name does not stop with what is commonly referred to as the New Testament, matter of fact, one must call upon His name as Rom 10:13 mentioned in order to be saved.