Don’t you wish.... My Doctrines contain TONS of Credibility for “those with eyes to see” ....To mere religionists, as opposed to Christians, they are “ foolishness”....
Why do you feel it is so hard to be good?
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Don’t you wish.... My Doctrines contain TONS of Credibility for “those with eyes to see” ....To mere religionists, as opposed to Christians, they are “ foolishness”....
Justification by Faith is not enough.....one must conquer “ willful Sinning” or at the very least make sure that you Repent all of those types of sins that the Blood is too weak to cover....right ?
Of course I disagree, happen to know some very good Christians.
It is sad that you do not know any.
Be good and do good.
It is sad that you do not know any.
Be good and do good.
Wrong again.
We sin, we confess, we are forgiven, and it is forgotten. Mostly people do not sin by accident.
It is not to much for Christ to expect us to learn from our mistakes and bring our lives in accord with the Christian morals expressed in the New Testament.
Then again, what is person that has no control of themselves?
What is a person that does not know the ramification for sins?
But it is important to know the biblical sins. Too many times people beat themselves up over sins that are not sins at all. Which in part is the point of this thread. Discussing what are real sins.
But what about those that have mental and emotional issues?
For the most part the Bible explanations physical and mental issues as demons.
And I have seen physical and emotional issues healed in churches.
But what about those that have to relay on psych medications and some medicate themselves with things like marijuana or for physical problems CBD. Is Christ going to hold that against you? Is it a sin? How many struggle with this?
Now I warn against sinful lifestyles, because you cannot repent for something you intend to keep doing, so you cannot get forgiveness for it.
But mental/emotional issues and chronic physical issues, and all the ups and downs that is involved with that, is that sinful lifestyles? No, there is nothing to repent of. Nothing to ask forgiveness for. Some of these people live their own personal hell.
Just like the rest of us they need to pray everyday. Talk it out with God and pray for healing and the strength to do the best they can. But there is no one more understanding than Christ. Their salvation is just as solid as anybody else's. Their afflictions are not sins. For them the Christian thing to do is to do the best they can. They should give their testimonies so to help others that struggle with life.
Ferris Bueller
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Like I said, the Mosaic law did not tell you to create harsh cultural traditions. It told you how to conduct cultural traditions that we consider harsh (because we don't have those traditions), fairly.
Ferris Bueller
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Wrong (again). The blood is not to weak to cover them. The unrepentant 'believer' stopped believing in the blood that can cover them. His willful sinning being the evidence of that. You can't do that and be a believer at the same time.
Ultimately, the willfully unrepentant 'believer' is not really a believer. Was he ever a believer? What does it matter? He's in unbelief, now. And no unbeliever has eternal life in them. And so they have no promise of the life to come. If they did they wouldn't be purposely and willingly living in sin.
8The one who practices sin is of the devil...
9Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.
10By this the children of God are distinguished from the children of the devil: Anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God
1 John 3:8-10
9Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.
10By this the children of God are distinguished from the children of the devil: Anyone who does not practice righteousness is not of God
1 John 3:8-10
Ferris Bueller
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Probably not, because I don't believe what you're suggesting is the meaning of the teaching about the new cloth/garment and the new wine/wineskins.
We are in a New Covenant. The new cloth and new wine of the New Covenant was introduced to replace the old covenant, not add to it. Does that mean the laws of the old covenant are tossed out? No. It means what the old covenant sought to do is now accomplished in the framework of the New Covenant. The goal has not changed. How we get there has.
Ferris Bueller
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I believe in the death penalty, too, but for practical reasons. Like how a raging tiger or lion is hunted down and destroyed, while a lost and hungry, but essentially harmless and redeemable kitten is not.
I think we both know and agree that God did not get rid of the law requiring the death penalty for the Christian. He kept it Himself. That law being marked 'fulfilled' on the books for the Christian, not done away with.
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Ferris Bueller
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Mankind was already doing those things. God made laws for the Israelites to ensure the welfare of those involved in those traditions. The culture God created was the concern people were to show each other in those traditions, taking into account the hardness of men's hearts during that time.
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Ferris Bueller
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Right, God is not telling the Jews to stop observing the law, even as unconverted, Christ rejecting Jews. The law is just not the covenant that God establishes with Jews, now. The goal the covenant of law sought to accomplish is still very much the goal today in this New Covenant. How we accomplish it is what has changed. It is now to be accomplished in the framework of a NEW Covenant. And in regard to spiritual realities.
Brakelite
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Yet Jesus found it necessary to explain the deeper meaning of murder when He spoke of hatred. Despite the law everyone knew from birth. And that's aspects of the law that one will never learn from a change of heart or the Spirit. For example, the 4th Commandment which can be obeyed only on the basis of authority.
No it means you do not mix them. You do not put the new wine....(Christianity)...(unfermented wine) in old wine skins (Judaism) because the fermentation will cause the old wineskin that have already expanded to be further stretched and burst....thus both ruined.
Same same concept for cloth... it will shrink and pull apart the stitches.
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Well he did, in the fashion that He did not require Christians to gather around a sinner and stone them. Of course Christ's death penalty is hell eternal and is worse than death. The Mosaic Laws regarding the death penalty were mandatory. If you did not put the person to death that broke the Law, you had violated the Law. In effect Christ broke the Law or changed the Law when He did not condemn the adulterous to death that was brought before Him. Some of these say and there will be no mercy.
I understand the concept of the time period....but that way of thinking or spirit has no place in Christianity.
Even as a tudor it set a bad example.
Ferris Bueller
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"All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness..." 2 Timothy 3:16
Ferris Bueller
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For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.”d Is it about oxen that God is concerned? Isn’t He actually speaking on our behalf? Indeed, this was written for us..." 1 Corinthians 9:9-10
Ferris Bueller
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Only a spiritual moron would do that knowing that he himself is guilty of crimes deserving capital punishment. That's the point. It points us to faith.
Ok, go sell your daughter as a sex slave. Sooo call this a correction and training in Christian righteousness.
If you sold your daughter as a sex slave and had to look at her life, the sorrow and shame you would feel would be because of your Christian righteousness. For a Jew that would look at their daughter, they would smile.
All debate over this would come to a screeching halt, as they say, if someone forced you to live under the Mosaic Law for a year. You would probably come back and rip the Old Testament out of your Bible.
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You know I had a friend in the military that was telling me what his childhood was like. We were sitting in a Kentucky Fried Chicken in Weymouth, England, which is actually a funny story in itself. But anyway his parents were druggies and constantly fought and were in and out of jail....And I said to him, that he was luck that he turned out so well.
He replied, Some kids follow in their parents footsteps, the way I took it, was that they should me everything not to do.
That is the Mosaic Law in a nut shell.
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