Why do you feel it is so hard to be good?

[BloodBought 1953]

We must repent. Because we must be born again of the Spirit. Many believe in Jesus from the outside, but He is not inside them. If Jesus is in you, your desires to sin will immediately change to desires to KNOW CHRIST INTIMATELY.

Yes, your “ Desires” will change , but unfortunately as Jesus said, “ the Spirit is Willing , but the Flesh is weak” .....Paul said he NEVER attained the level that he desired to , yet YOU have......lol.....yeah, right.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Yes, and why I posted this post. Everyone needs to be a Berean and look at their doctrines of liberal defeatism that "we will always sin while in these bodies." That is the biggest lie, and justifies peoples weakness for carnal desires to sin. I don't want anyone should perish from their stubborn allegiance to church fathers that taught lies, especially from the Reformation. Jesus said of them, "you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead." That is because their premise is straight from hell.

The False, Perverted “Gospel” Of “Sinless Perfection” is the Doctrine that is “ Straight From Hell” .....If we could overcome sin 100% in these bodies of flesh, “ Jesus died in Vain”....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

What was interesting for me in that moment is I felt a burden lift off me. I know it was my carnal nature leaving me, and I felt light as a feather and so full of joy I could hardly contain myself.

Strange how your Carnal Nature left you immediately and Paul had to struggle with Sin...” I do the very thing that I do NOT want to do.....”

A Christ- like life is not a Moment to achieve, but a goal to pursue......

Philippians 3:2.......” I DON’T mean to say that I have already reached PERFECTION , but I press on...”

Paul admitted that he could not reach the level that YOU claim to have attained .....its obvious that you and Mr.Bueller are mistaken.....ANSWER this charge ! Tell me why you guys do not preach a False ,Perverted Gospel.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

BB, Jesus takes away our sins unto death. But there is the other type of sin called sins not unto death. We will all commit those until we fully mature in the Lord and His fruit of the Spirit. But we must still do our part and not only ask forgiveness for these trespasses, but FORGIVE OUR BRETHREN. Only then will the blood of Jesus cleanse those sins.

But if you follow the steps for maturing the fruit of the Spirit, then you will NEVER STUMBLE.

2 Peter 1:2-11

2 Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord, 3 as His divine power has given to us all things that pertain to life and godliness, through the knowledge of Him who called us by glory and virtue, 4 by which have been given to us exceedingly great and precious promises, that through these you may be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.


10 Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

BB, stop looking for loophole to sin. Start obeying Christ's command to "Be perfect, as My Father in heaven is perfect." Jesus wants us to not only be sinless, but perfect.

I look for “ loopholes to Sin” with the same eagerness that I look for loopholes to get a Drano Enema....who wants to sin? Sinning for me is like sticking my hand in a Fire so please shut up about my “ longing to sin”...... it’s a lie concocted by Grace Haters like yourself....

The ONLY “ Perfection” that you will EVER know is that “ perfection” that is IMPUTED to you just like it was Imputed to Abraham.....” Abraham BELIEVED God and it was COUNTED unto him as Righteousness....” talk about Christianity 101 !!

This side of the Cross, we do not have to “Forgive to be Forgiven” ......that was Law.....Jesus lived under the Law and He Preached The Law.....

Now, we are no longer under Law....we are under Grace.....In this Age Of Grace we Forgive others because WE are ALREADY FORGIVEN.......the impetus for forgiving others is this—— if God has completely forgiven a wretch like me, why should I not be willing to forgive others.....this forgiveness comes naturally if you have a New Heart.....Forgiveness is not given to others because of a threat to go to Hell if you don’t do it.....there is a “ new and better” program out there for Saved Believers .....do yourself a favor and get acquainted with it.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Demons know that too.

You still don't get it.

No dear......YOU are the one that “ doesn’t get it”...... read your Bible......the demons believe there is “ ONE GOD” .......

Some people thought they were “ hot stuff” because they BELIeVEd IN *ONE* GOD! ( the Unsaved heathen Believed in hundreds of “ gods” ) The point being made was that even the demons believed “ that” and it was worthless to use that as if that made you Worthy Of Salvation.....

Read your Bible more carefully......” Strive to be a good student of the Word, so that you will not shame yourself”...... learn how to “ Rightly Divide” the Word Of God.......or stay out of forums, perhaps....you can’t fool somebody that actually knows their Bible.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Didn't know you were doing sock puppet accounts. Not used to replies from members I've never addressed.

My wife messed it up....I could not remember my old e- mail address to connect me with my name of Blood Bought.....I had to use another Addy to get to post with Gospel Believer .....I refigured some-Letters to get back to Blood Bought 1953..... I was not trying to fool anybody with anything....I have confessed many times that I am a computer Dotard....nobody would help me after asked for help....I have to do what i can to survive in here....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

You have to think past your nose. Put things in motion.
The reality of it is that Hyper Grace is a free pass to all manner of sin and evil....and then they occupy Heaven. That is not the message in the Bible....it would not work....it is not reality.

It has been posed to you before.....Heaven full of evil and evildoers.
So why don't you describe how Heaven is going to be with all that evil and all those evildoers there....What will it be like....Heaven occupied by those that should be in Hell. And then what is Hell for?
What would it be like for God and good people people to spend eternity with all that evil. And how is that represented in the Bible?
Did the Bible get it wrong? Did Christ say that He would go to prepare a place for you so you can be damned to spend all eternity with evil?

The concept of evil goes to Heaven does not work at any level of intelligence or understanding of scripture.

Heaven will be FULL of “ Evil - Doers”——— *FORGIVEN* “evil- doers!!! Those who before they enter Eternity will be given New, SINLESS Bodies! There will be NO Sin in Heaven because Satan and his minions have all been completely defeated , banished to Hell and all of the Forgiven Evil- Doers will be Filled with the Holy Spirit Of God ....”we will be as HE is”......Perfect !

Those who Rested in Pauls Gospel Of Grace already “HAD” Perfection IMPUTED to them....
In Heaven, this “ imputation “ will become reality....there will be NO SIN in Heaven.....Forgiven Sinners and evil-Doers, Forgiven Of their Sins because of their Faith in Jesus will be filling up the place....at this time they will not be “ seen” as perfect—- with their New Bodies, full of the Holy Spirit , they will actually * BE* Perfect......once again, Christianity 101......those that “ think past their nose” easily “ Get” this......others don’t......I’ve known this since I was about 6 years old..... How did you miss it?

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Excuse me BB, this thread is about "Why do you feel it is so hard to be good?"
This thread is not about "No need to be good! Sin all you want you are guaranteed Heaven?"

Start your own thread on that.....move it along.

Nah.....

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Nah.....

Why not?
Why don't you start a thread that says, ""No need to be good to be saved! Sin all you want you are guaranteed Heaven?"
That is what you assert, so why don't you do it?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

If I must Believe the Gospel to be Saved and then after that juggle Ten chain- saws in the air at the same time , the “ monkey” is on GOD’S Back to see that I am able to do that juggling......He Promised to “Finish the Work That HE started.....Jesus Promised to present us before the Father as “ Blameless” ....I actually think that God will keep His Word.....

And so when you stand before God at the judgment not having juggled 10 chainsaws you show that you do not belong to Him. Because if you did belong to Him in salvation, you'd be juggling 10 chainsaws.

 

[Grailhunter]

Nah.....

You are not address the subject of the thread. Need no Trolls.
2nd warning, move it a long

 

[BloodBought 1953]

LOL My thread.

It’s a very good thread! I hope you are learning from it, even though that was probably not your original intention....this thread has accidentally served to be a great “ Springboard” to get Pauls True Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing out there for Newbies..... the vast majority of church- goers never get the True Gospel preached to them by Jack- Legged , SELF - Chosen “ Teachers” ......At least they can be exposed to the True Gospel here....lets hope and pray that like “ Lydia, the Seller Of Purple”, God will “ open their hearts “ to the reception of it...it’s just like the Song says—- “ Nothing But The Blood”......Don’t find yourself on the wrong side of THAT debate, right Grail?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

I just do what Abraham, the Father Of Faith did.” Abraham BELIEVED God and it was counted to him as Righteousness....I Simply BELIEVE the Gospel.

GB...I mean, BB..., you're making a grave mistake. That's not all that Abraham did...

"20O foolish man, do you want evidence that faith without deeds is worthless?h 21Was not our father Abraham justified by what he did when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that his faith was working with his actions, and his faith was perfected by what he did. 23And the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”i and he was called a friend of God.j 24As you can see, a man is justified by his deeds and not by faith alone." James 2:20-24​

James says Abraham's faith in Genesis 15:6 was worthless without his actions in Genesis 22:10. Abraham was justified by what he did fulfilling the scripture that says he was justified by what he believed. He is our example so that we can see a man is not justified by faith alone, but also by his deeds. He passed the test of faith by doing what God commanded him to do (Genesis 22:1). His actions showed/proved that he really did have faith in God. That's why a man is justified by, both, faith and works and not by faith that is alone.

You have to stop telling people that all they have to have is faith and don't need to have works. The person without works doesn't have faith. You are deceiving them into thinking they do.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

It’s a very good thread! I hope you are learning from it, even though that was probably not your original intention....this thread has accidentally served to be a great “ Springboard” to get Pauls True Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing out there for Newbies.

Actually, it has served as a springboard to visit the lost truth that a man is not justified by faith alone.
If only you knew the grave error you are committing in asserting that faith that is alone passes the test for real faith.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Why not?
Why don't you start a thread that says, ""No need to be good to be saved! Sin all you want you are guaranteed Heaven?"
That is what you assert, so why don't you do it?

I can’t right Now....I have more important things to do.....I am rearranging my spice rack.....then I have to rotate my tires.....

 

[Ferris Bueller]

I can’t right Now....I have more important things to do.....I am rearranging my spice rack.....thorniest have to rotate my tires.....

I agree that your theological assertion is not as important as those things. But if you're so sure that the faith that is alone is the faith that saves, and so you don't have to have works to be saved, and you want newbies to know that, then you really need to start a thread "No need to be good to be saved! Sin all you want, you are guaranteed Heaven." It will give us another chance to show the church the lost truth of James 2:24 and what it means.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

You are not address the subject of the thread. Need no Trolls.
2nd warning, move it a long

Lol.....your original subject has not been addressed in here for days....this thread is all over the map now, as it has been for a long time.....why do you single “me “ out? Is it because you can’t use Scripture to win our disagreements....Is it because I know and understand the Bible better than you? Methinks I must be hitting a nerve.....I have never seen a threat like you are making just because I may have gotten “ off topic”—— just like a dozen other people in here have done....maybe YOU should exit your own thread....” if you can’t stand the Heat,stay out of the kitchen”...... even if that “ kitchen” is your own....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I agree that your theological assertion is not as important as those things. But if you're so sure that the faith that is alone is the faith that saves, and so you don't have to have works to be saved, and you want newbies to know that, then you really need to start a thread "No need to be good to be saved! Sin all you want, you are guaranteed Heaven." It will give us another chance to show the church the lost truth of James 2:24 and what it means.

Can you edit that title.....it is too long for a thread name....

 

[Truth7t7]

The False, Perverted “Gospel” Of “Sinless Perfection” is the Doctrine that is “ Straight From Hell” .....If we could overcome sin 100% in these bodies of flesh, “ Jesus died in Vain”....

100% Amen!

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I agree that your theological assertion is not as important as those things. But if you're so sure that the faith that is alone is the faith that saves, and so you don't have to have works to be saved, and you want newbies to know that, then you really need to start a thread "No need to be good to be saved! Sin all you want, you are guaranteed Heaven." It will give us another chance to show the church the lost truth of James 2:24 and what it means.

Ho- Hum....
You act as if you have discovered something New here—— this age- old debate between what Paul said and what James said....a seeming contradiction......

You got YOUR pet verses and I have mine.....Greater minds than ours have not been able to reconcile these seemingly “ contradictory” verses......Here is mine....it shoots your verse out of the water just like your verse shoots mine.....you got James2:24 and I have Ephesians 2:8-9 “ For it is by Grace that you have been saved, and this is not of your own doing—- it is the GIFT of God” ...

So choose the verse you prefer......there are NO Contradictions in the Bible .....it just appears that way because we aren’t as smart as God.....

Until we arrive at the Day when “all questions will be answered” , I see it this way.....if Paul says one thing and James appears to sayanother,go with Paul......the Bible says for us Gentiles to FOLLOW PAUL as he follows Christ.....The Bible NEVER says to “ Follow James as he follows Christ”......

The entire debate is a moot point for me....I got my “Works” to prove my Faith if I have to do so....I just don't think I “ have” to .......

James is talking to Believers about proving their faith to MEN.....one does not have to “ prove” such things to God —— God sees your Heart