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TheWarIs1

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Racist.. Learn the meaning
We weren't discussing racism. I'm well aware of the meaning.
I see racism all the time used by minorities in my country yet they claim they can't be racist.
I see you've fallen for the demonic politically correct thinking. Don't like what the scriptures say?
Do you feel a need to reword it for the sensitive?

So you think Christ was a racist because he told the disciples to go only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel?
Or how about when he called the women from Canaan, also called a syroPhenician a dog?

Mat 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Why did he ignore her request as if she didn't matter?
 

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Racism comes from prejudice.
Everyone is prejudice and no one can claim not to be, but i see it as like a scale from 1 to 10 and no one can go lower then 1 but when some one goes over 5 it becomes silly and over 7 stupid and 10 would be a mental case..
We have prejudice because of the stain of original sin i think.

Racist views must be about one thinking their better than the others. and that would raise questions about in what regard does the one put forward their case for saying so.
From what i can see all are the same, just cultural differences could be argued. and that maybe only your point of view.
The Jews have bean labeled the biggest racist ever in the history of the world, but i believe in the beginning the reason was not to be contaminated with others was all about the problem of idolatry.
We now have jokers that push that the Jewish people are the superior race above all madness and it's unbelievable to the extents they will go to even to create wars over it.
 

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Racism comes from prejudice.
Everyone is prejudice and no one can claim not to be, but i see it as like a scale from 1 to 10 and no one can go lower then 1 but when some one goes over 5 it becomes silly and over 7 stupid and 10 would be a mental case..
We have prejudice because of the stain of original sin i think.

Racist views must be about one thinking their better than the others. and that would raise questions about in what regard does the one put forward their case for saying so.
From what i can see all are the same, just cultural differences could be argued. and that maybe only your point of view.
The Jews have bean labeled the biggest racist ever in the history of the world, but i believe in the beginning the reason was not to be contaminated with others was all about the problem of idolatry.
We now have jokers that push that the Jewish people are the superior race above all madness and it's unbelievable to the extents they will go to even to create wars over it.
How is race mixing considered idolatry?
The heart of Judaism is the Talmud Balvi and it is extremely racist.
Oh but Jews will say were not all religious, we're not a race, we are a nationality, yeah that's it.
The definition has been skewed and smeared so much it doesn't make sense and that makes it appear that that's the way they want it..

A little lie leavens the whole lump
 

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I understand all of what you are saying and I happen to agree with it,the Bible is about the family line that Christ would come through and all that comes in contact with it.....That's not the problem I have,my problem is with you saying that the word of God is only for white people....

God created all the races at the same time,on the 6th day

Genesis 1:27"So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them."
So it was on this sixth day that both man and woman of all races were formed, and each after their kind. Yet all forms of mankind red, yellow, black [brown], or white are all created in the image of God.

Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, ad over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
The intent of God was to have each race multiply "after their kind". For God created all that is necessary for all mankind to exist. "Replenish" is translated properly, and the command is to replenish the earth. This earth had a population in the first earth age, and it was inhabited by God's children. Satan caused one third of all God's children to fall, and follow him, and the result of that fall angered God. That is when "the earth became [tohu-va bohu] a waste and desolation", as recorded in verse two.

God is now commanding the races to multiply and "repopulate" the earth "after their kind". It seems though today that the whole world is a bit color blind, or maybe they think God is out of touch with today's world. It is interesting though, following Noah's flood in Genesis 9:1; "And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, "be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth."

At this point in scripture,Adam has yet to be created............

Genesis 2:1 "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them."

This chapter begins after the completion of the heavens and the earth, when it is fit for habitation. The "hosts" are the masses of people of every race, created on the sixth day, and their offspring, as each race multiplied "after their kind". "Hosts" in the Hebrew text, is given as "tsaba", which shows a binding unity within each group or race, such as organizing for war. In the Strong's Hebrew dictionary it is # 6635, it comes from the root meaning "to assemble to perform". Each of these souls or people, having been created, now stood ready to pass through this earth age. Each soul having the free will to choose light, or darkness.

Genesis 2:2 "And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made."

Now we get to Adam being formed.......

Genesis 2:7 "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."


The word "formed" is used [molded as clay] to describe the making of Adam. When man was formed he became a living creature. In the Hebrew it is "eth-ha-adham", which refers to the particular person "Adam", (not a generic form for man). The "Ha-Adham" [Adam] is the man that Christ will come forth through. Matthew 1:1-17, and Luke 3:23-38 both give us our documentation that this is true and did come to pass. Paul states in I Corinthians 15:21-23 that sin came into the world by the first Adam, but by the second Adam [Christ} all shall be made alive. Christ is the first fruits [to come out of the grave to everlasting life], and then "they that are Christ's at His coming". There was death by the first Adam, and salvation by Christ Himself.

I say 8th day because of the fact that it was after the 7th,after He rested.............

And Im well aware of who true Israel is........
 

Israelsson

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But how. What is your interpretation of the meaning of the Hebrew? God planted a race that would do His will on earth, to teach, using a Christian mind, applying His laws and governing in obedience to Christ. For 1000's of years, people were living much like the natives in many countries today. Then around 6000 years ago, a white civilization brought forth the earliest known culture, the Sumerians. They know they were white because of their bone structure and the hair that was still on the heads of the mummies.

Does this qualify any form of hate? The reason the world is in the chaotic state it is today, is because these Adamic peoples kept backsliding from the Law. Therefore, God divorced Israel. According to His law, in order for divorce to be allowed, one must die before the other can remarry. Christ (God in the flesh) died on the cross so that He may remarry Israel, making her His bride.

All I want to know your answer to, is, how do you explain the word Adam meaning ruddy, to show blood in the face, fair, etc?
 

Israelsson

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I understand all of what you are saying and I happen to agree with it,the Bible is about the family line that Christ would come through and all that comes in contact with it.....That's not the problem I have,my problem is with you saying that the word of God is only for white people....

God created all the races at the same time,on the 6th day

Genesis 1:27"So God created man in His own image, in the image of God created He him; male and female created He them."
So it was on this sixth day that both man and woman of all races were formed, and each after their kind. Yet all forms of mankind red, yellow, black [brown], or white are all created in the image of God.

Genesis 1:28 "And God blessed them, and God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, ad over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."
The intent of God was to have each race multiply "after their kind". For God created all that is necessary for all mankind to exist. "Replenish" is translated properly, and the command is to replenish the earth. This earth had a population in the first earth age, and it was inhabited by God's children. Satan caused one third of all God's children to fall, and follow him, and the result of that fall angered God. That is when "the earth became [tohu-va bohu] a waste and desolation", as recorded in verse two.

God is now commanding the races to multiply and "repopulate" the earth "after their kind". It seems though today that the whole world is a bit color blind, or maybe they think God is out of touch with today's world. It is interesting though, following Noah's flood in Genesis 9:1; "And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, "be fruitful and multiply, and replenish the earth."

At this point in scripture,Adam has yet to be created............

Genesis 2:1 "Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them."

This chapter begins after the completion of the heavens and the earth, when it is fit for habitation. The "hosts" are the masses of people of every race, created on the sixth day, and their offspring, as each race multiplied "after their kind". "Hosts" in the Hebrew text, is given as "tsaba", which shows a binding unity within each group or race, such as organizing for war. In the Strong's Hebrew dictionary it is # 6635, it comes from the root meaning "to assemble to perform". Each of these souls or people, having been created, now stood ready to pass through this earth age. Each soul having the free will to choose light, or darkness.

Genesis 2:2 "And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made."

Now we get to Adam being formed.......

Genesis 2:7 "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."


The word "formed" is used [molded as clay] to describe the making of Adam. When man was formed he became a living creature. In the Hebrew it is "eth-ha-adham", which refers to the particular person "Adam", (not a generic form for man). The "Ha-Adham" [Adam] is the man that Christ will come forth through. Matthew 1:1-17, and Luke 3:23-38 both give us our documentation that this is true and did come to pass. Paul states in I Corinthians 15:21-23 that sin came into the world by the first Adam, but by the second Adam [Christ} all shall be made alive. Christ is the first fruits [to come out of the grave to everlasting life], and then "they that are Christ's at His coming". There was death by the first Adam, and salvation by Christ Himself.

I say 8th day because of the fact that it was after the 7th,after He rested.............

And Im well aware of who true Israel is........
Remember though, that the original texts are copied from three separate scrolls. It is believed that Genesis 1-2 was from one text, chapters 3-4 was a 2nd, and chapter 5 and on was a third. So it is quite possible that these are all accounts of the same creation, and being that Adam was created on day 6 and then on God rests. In Chapter 2, my contention is that God is forming a specific Adam, one through whom which Noah would be born, leading up to Christ. These other Adamites would have dispersed after their ejection from Eden. Many of which were destroyed by the Deluge along with the Nephilim.

Sorry if I cast any doubt on you, It just seems that so many people are adamant about disproving each other rather than studying into things and learning it for themselves. It appears that many simply adhere to a dogma, never once considering that they were wrong in some manner of belief. I admit when I am wrong, and when scripture is provided, I study it and take in from many sources. With this and prayer, God leads me in the direction He wants me to go.
 

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All I want to know your answer to, is, how do you explain the word Adam meaning ruddy, to show blood in the face, fair, etc?
these people just want to display their shock at your opinions without a discussion of the scripture.
The world has overlooked much of the scriptures and just accept what the adversary has passed on.
 

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How is race mixing considered idolatry?
The heart of Judaism is the Talmud Balvi and it is extremely racist.
Oh but Jews will say were not all religious, we're not a race, we are a nationality, yeah that's it.
The definition has been skewed and smeared so much it doesn't make sense and that makes it appear that that's the way they want it..

A little lie leavens the whole lump
I don't think it was anything to do with race, it was idolatry ? that the others were in to, idolatry and that was the main reason why not to do so as it would be destructive force to the people of God.
 

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these people just want to display their shock at your opinions without a discussion of the scripture.
The world has overlooked much of the scriptures and just accept what the adversary has passed on.
That is so apparent its really not even funny. I have still yet to seen any evidence put forth to prove the theories put forth that somehow Adam was not white. Why is it so wrong to be white, especially among white people. I doubt everyone in these forums are white, but I highly doubt someone that has read my statements that were non white would respond as cordially as some of these folks. (If cordially is what you could call it) I'm sure they would be quite offended by now.
This just further proves that Christianity is for White Adamic Israelites. The only times that I ever see non whites in a congregation is in the midst of some massive assembly of judeo-Christians. These churches that boast about membership numbers in the thousands are a joke, and I would tell the preacher to his face that very fact. No one has a right to even proclaim that THEY accept Christ. We should be praying that He will accept us before His return. To really believe that all you have to do is 'open your heart to Jesus' and all is forgiven, is living a deception. The most clever deception ever devised, how else will the enemies of Christ destroy His church but from the inside? If you can get the majority of White Christians to believe that the enemy is the chosen, that the law is done away with, that you must accept everyone into the church? That fags and racemixing are okay, besides you have to 'rend unto Caesar' right? And lets not forget how we must be total pacifists and 'turn the other cheek' to all things.

I say to all of you now, if you don't have the balls to stand up for the God that you proclaim to love with all of your heart in the face of ANY form of adversity, then you don't deserve to call yourself a Christian. Where is the suffering in your Christian walk, were is your persecution? I doubt that any of you, with the exception of a few, actually have anything offensive to say against anything right? Judge not lest ye be judged? So Almighty God changed His mind huh? He decided that the Israelites weren't going to be His chosen, His peculiar, His creation formed in His own image anymore, and He was just going to open the doors to the Kingdom to every pagan, heathen, and anti-Christ that we can find? Anyone who wants to defame anyone or accuse of racism or bigotry, only because they aren't meant to see or hear the truth yet, should sit back and be silent. You base your scripture from the hearts of men, men that graduated from a jew funded bible seminary, being taught a version of scripture that is hypocritical in itself.

It is no wonder why so many intelligent whites today turn away from God simply because your doctrines make very little sense.
 

TheWarIs1

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Many of these teachings of scripture are taught at the link below
Although it's not Christian Identity Mr Martin believed some things CI teach.
He studied deep within scriptures.

www.askelm.com/

Mr Martin was part of the Worldwide church of God. WWCG wouldn't accept some of his teachings.
He has found hidden things in Israel which offers proof of things he believes.

Some of the things he believes goes deep beyond what's normally taught and he dares not even mention some of the things he feels isn't important.

He has since passed away but his teachings live on.
He didn't preach on tithes except for how they are a deception and false teaching
He believed Cain was of a different lineage than Adam.
He was certain that many people were alive before Adam.

He believe Christ died for ALL men or at least all who were born of Spirit from the beginning.
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Did you know Ye must be born again really says
"Ye must be born from the beginning."

by water and Spirit.

If you weren't already born of spirit then you can't ever enter Heaven.


Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.


Literal translation reads.
"If any one may not be born from above,"

Above or beginning.
In Aramaic it says "if not beget indeed beginning."

ἄνωθεν
anōthen
an'-o-then
From G507; from above; by analogy from the first




Were some people created without a spirit?
Only the Adam of 2:7 had the wind(RA) blown in his nostrils which suggest a spirit entered in that Adam.

Some people certainly appear to be without conscience or spirit at times.
 

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Some people certainly appear to be without conscience or spirit at times.


I would most strongly disagree. However, I will concede that some people certainly appear to be without a brain or intellect at times. :blink:





Where do these people come from? Is there a full moon?



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TheWarIs1

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I would most strongly disagree. However, I will concede that some people certainly appear to be without a brain or intellect at times. :blink:





Where do these people come from? Is there a full moon?



BibleScribe
So you don't see people sinning without a conscience these days?
The pure unadulterated evil that takes place with some folk is disturbing.

Maybe you are just unaware of what goes on the world.
There are some extremely evil people among us.
 

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It's not about what I believe but what is written in the scripture.
The first man was created differently from the second man or was it just another way of expressing the same creation?
The second man created appears to be formed after the seven day creation period.
Some call it the 8th day creation.

Christ was called the 2nd Adam and his number was 888
There is no doubt he had to come from a perfect Adamic lineage.

Son of Man has been lost in bad translation.
It was used to describe Christ and other Israelites.

Son of Man literally means "son of Adam"

Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

The story of the kinsmen redeemer was only about one group of people.
Christ is that Kinsmen redeemer.





John 3:3 ..., Except a man be born again*, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

The original word was not "Again" but "beginning or Above". Even the Aramaic scriptures used the words Beginning or above.


John 3:3 ..., Except a man be born from above(or the beginning), he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Except a man be born of Water and Spirit he shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.




Lam 4:7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies,their polishing was of sapphire:
This is a racial description of these Nazarites. Sapphire Blue was the eyes. Polishing was an Idiom meaning eye color.
Do you know of any Nazarites?
Whiter than Snow and Ruddy is the exact description of Noah in the book of Enoch.
Noah had blond hair according to Enoch.


There were less important beings than others in the bible.
Less important to Yahweh that is.
Some men were simply known as creatures. Like it or not.

No where does scripture imply "all men were created equal"


Some men were here on Eretz long before others according to scientist.. ,
How could they all come from Adam?
Adamites were more important than the earlier men.



Cain was never said to be of Adam. Never written in Adams genealogy.
Who did he marry in the land of Nod or Nomads? (the name suggest previous wanderers)
He feared people of the world would kill him for his sin. Who did he fear if he was the second man?

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I'll suggest that certainly you have a "spirit", albiet demonic.



To All,

Certainly one can refute many aspects of a false doctrine. However, Scripture says to think on whatever is of good report, (Ref. Philippians 4:8), and so I shall not waste my efforts refuting lies. And I would encourage others to be equally vigilant regarding this discernment and wisdom.


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TheWarIs1

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I'll suggest that certainly you have a "spirit", albiet demonic.



To All,

Certainly one can refute many aspects of a false doctrine. However, Scripture says to think on whatever is of good report, (Ref. Philippians 4:8), and so I shall not waste my efforts refuting lies. And I would encourage others to be equally vigilant regarding this discernment and wisdom.


BibleScribe
So because you don't like what the actual words of scripture are you
decide to label me demonic, in hope of silencing. That isn't defending your belief or refuting scriptures I gave.
You failed. You have not studied to show yourself approved obviously.

You've not argued the word no you haven't made any argument.
You've only proved that you can't debate or defend your beliefs.

Jer 8:8 How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he it; the pen of the scribes is in vain.
You fulfilled that !

Ignore is on


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Israelsson

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I'll suggest that certainly you have a "spirit", albiet demonic.



To All,

Certainly one can refute many aspects of a false doctrine. However, Scripture says to think on whatever is of good report, (Ref. Philippians 4:8), and so I shall not waste my efforts refuting lies. And I would encourage others to be equally vigilant regarding this discernment and wisdom.


BibleScribe

I will ask that you provide the evidence supporting YOUR ideology. If believing in Yahweh, and adapting ourselves to His Word so that we may better become His servants, is wrong. Then I confess nothing to the Jew, and you reek of Jewry with your comments, you only seek to plant false truths in peoples minds. You probably are a mamzer, thats a word used in the bible. Our president is a mamzer, thats why Gods White Israelite people are suffering today, because they have allowed people that are not born of God through His spirit, which He gave to ruddy Adam alone, to sit in power over them.

There is nothing but proof within the scripture of this ideology, there are no questions that have to be spiritualized away. There is no waiting around, doing nothing, while your beautiful culture and once proud history is trampled daily around the world. You move forward, armed with the Word, and as Jesus said "I am not come to bring peace, but a sword" we use this Word as a sword to remove those from around us which have 'crept in unawares'. You have proven yourself to me to be one of these we are warned of. Others, i'm quite certain will agree with you, but what else is to be expected in this apostate world of today?
 

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I will ask that you provide the evidence supporting YOUR ideology. ...
... you reek of Jewry with your comments ...


I won't give you my ideology, but I will provide for you that which I shared with "TheWarls1":

... certainly you have a "spirit", albiet demonic.


I hope this helps,
BibleScribe
 
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