Finding Jesus' Tomb Project

[DuckieLady]

@devin553344

I thought it would be easier to start a new thread. lol

To explain to everyone else and anyone who wants to join in:

After Jesus rose from the dead, the angel told Mary that Jesus was on his way to Galilee. She caught up with him and he told her to tell the disciples to meet with him in Galilee. He met with his disciples later that night.

We're trying to figure out the distance from the tomb to Galilee to see how he got there so fast.

I believe his family was in Nazareth, which I THINK would be considered lower Galilee today.

Edit: all of my miles below are inaccurate, ignore.
Here are the three possible tomb locations and the distances according to the internet:

Church of the Holy Sepulchre

120 miles away

The Garden Tomb

The Garden Tomb is a shorter walk, about 80 miles.

Talpiot Tomb

This one seems the most likely to me, although they say it is debunked, but I cannot for the life of me get the computer to load fast enough to find out.


I am still looking into this but I apparently need to clean up the computer first so I can get Google Maps to load.

 

[Windmill Charge]

o see how he got there so fast.

He didn't walk. Like when he appeared in the 'locked' upper room he just appeared.

 

[DuckieLady]

He didn't walk. Like when he appeared in the 'locked' upper room he just appeared.

I don't think that would be accurate for a few reasons.

1. Mary had to go catch up with him.
2. Mary had to go back to the apostles to tell him to meet up with him in Galilee, because he was on his way.
3. Whether or not Jesus could just "show up", the apostles themselves would have had to walk to Galilee to meet him. Jesus was already on his way there.

 

[quietthinker]

@devin553344

I thought it would be easier to start a new thread. lol

To explain to everyone else and anyone who wants to join in:

After Jesus rose from the dead, the angel told Mary that Jesus was on his way to Galilee. She caught up with him and he told her to tell the disciples to meet with him in Galilee. He met with his disciples later that night.

We're trying to figure out the distance from the tomb to Galilee to see how he got there so fast.

I believe his family was in Nazareth, which I THINK would be considered lower Galilee today.

Here are the three possible tomb locations and the distances according to the internet:

Church of the Holy Sepulchre

120 miles away

The Garden Tomb

The Garden Tomb is a shorter walk, about 80 miles.

Talpiot Tomb

This one seems the most likely to me, although they say it is debunked, but I cannot for the life of me get the computer to load fast enough to find out.


I am still looking into this but I apparently need to clean up the computer first so I can get Google Maps to load.

Post resurrection thought travel is possible as is walking through walls

 

[Raccoon1010]

Post resurrection thought travel is possible as is walking through walls

Mary was with Jesus at the tomb. And then they both had to meet up with the 12 at somepoint between the morning and night. So at least Mary had to travel around 120 miles from the tomb to Galilee. Unless the tomb was closer to Galilee.

@FluffyYellowDuck not sure. But I think the tomb would have to be within 40 miles of Galilee. So again they took Jesus body, traveled from Jerusalem to the tomb some 80 miles and put him in the tomb which is a two day journey. Then the next day Jesus was resurrected and appeared. He would have then been 40 miles from Galilee which is a days journey. Since the apostles and Jesus and Mary had to travel only from morning to night to meet up in Galilee there is no other conclusion.

 

[Pathfinder7]

I don't think that would be accurate for a few reasons.

1. Mary had to go catch up with him.
2. Mary had to go back to the apostles to tell him to meet up with him in Galilee, because he was on his way.
3. Whether or not Jesus could just "show up", the apostles themselves would have had to walk to Galilee to meet him. Jesus was already on his way there.

Jesus was 'transported' several times..after His resurrection.
Matthew 28:8-10
Luke 24:13-43
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It appears that Philip was 'transported' to another location in an instant.
Acts 8:38-40
---
I remember the story about a fellow who had a 'transported' experience..many years ago.
He said, "I was transported to another location (city)"..
- For the urgent/important ministry task(assignment).

 

[Raccoon1010]

Jesus was 'transported' several times..after His resurrection.
Matthew 28:8-10
Luke 24:13-43
---
It appears that Philip was 'transported' to another location in an instant.
Acts 8:38-40
---
I remember the story about a fellow who had a 'transported' experience..many years ago.
He said, "I was transported to another location (city)"..
- For the urgent/important ministry task(assignment).

Well there's no other conclusion except the miraculous of course :)

 

[Deborah_]

Here are the three possible tomb locations and the distances according to the internet:

Church of the Holy Sepulchre

120 miles away

The Garden Tomb

The Garden Tomb is a shorter walk, about 80 miles.

What? The Garden Tomb and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre are just a couple of miles apart (I know, I've been there). So how can one of them be 40 miles further away from Galilee than the other? Doesn't make sense.

The Talpiot tomb is only 5km away from the other two, and isn't a serious contender. (It contained an ossuary containing the bones of a certain "Yeshua bar Yehosef" - both names very common in Palestine during the first century)

 

[DuckieLady]

What? The Garden Tomb and the Church of the Holy Sepulchre are just a couple of miles apart (I know, I've been there). So how can one of them be 40 miles further away from Galilee than the other? Doesn't make sense.

The Talpiot tomb is only 5km away from the other two, and isn't a serious contender. (It contained an ossuary containing the bones of a certain "Yeshua bar Yehosef" - both names very common in Palestine during the first century)

I didn't look up the miles on the maps myself. Computer was too slow so this was someone else's calculation.

But that is helpful. Now I know to look up the right ones - IF THIS THING WILL EVER LOAD.

Jesus was 'transported' several times..after His resurrection.
Matthew 28:8-10
Luke 24:13-43
---
It appears that Philip was 'transported' to another location in an instant.
Acts 8:38-40
---
I remember the story about a fellow who had a 'transported' experience..many years ago.
He said, "I was transported to another location (city)"..
- For the urgent/important ministry task(assignment).

I still can't accept it. Remember the disciples Jesus had walked with before meeting the apostles? (Or after? Still confused.)


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[DuckieLady]

Also I realized phones have maps.

 

[TEXBOW]

John 20:4
So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre. (KJV)

I do not think they ran to Galilee.

 

[DuckieLady]

Jesus Appears to His Disciples
19 On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!”

From a Biblical Archeology site:

Jesus was buried from Tzais HaKochavim Wednesday night (now the 15th of Nisan) through Thursday night (now the 16th)..

On What Day Did Jesus Rise?


This is the part where I need someone smarter than me to put the pieces together. I haven't had a cup of coffee yet.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Jesus Appears to His Disciples
19 On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!”

From a Biblical Archeology site:

Jesus was buried from Tzais HaKochavim Wednesday night (now the 15th of Nisan) through Thursday night (now the 16th)..

On What Day Did Jesus Rise?


This is the part where I need someone smarter than me to put the pieces together. I haven't had a cup of coffee yet.

If that is true, then perhaps they transported his body 80 miles towards Galilee from Jerusalem before he rose. And then met at the burial site and walked another 40 miles to Galilee.

 

[DuckieLady]

If that is true, then perhaps they transported his body 80 miles towards Galilee from Jerusalem before he rose. And then met at the burial site and walked another 40 miles to Galilee.

They knew Jesus said that he would rise from the dead and wanted to prevent the disciples from taking the body. That is why the tomb was guarded.

It makes sense to me that they would have also put his body at a further distance to keep it hidden, as well as it being guarded, and we don't know the real location, but also God knowing everything and being in control, being closer to Galilee where he would go next.

Also they could probably do it faster and I'm sure the soldiers had horses and chariots.

 

[DuckieLady]

Also with #14, does it make sense that with the amount of people that loved Jesus, the only ones there would be the guards?

It seems to me that it would make sense that they would intend to keep it a secret.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Also with #14, does it make sense that with the amount of people that loved Jesus, the only ones there would be the guards?

It seems to me that it would make sense that they would intend to keep it a secret.

The two Marys knew where the tomb was. But if he was only in the tomb for a day then hmm, could mean two day transport of him. But I think the rich man that had a tomb must have transported him to his tomb. No one really knows where the tomb was. But it's clear that if Mary had to tell the disciples Jesus had risen and it was before nightfall that day, then she must have been within 40 miles distance of them.

 

[Deborah_]

They knew Jesus said that he would rise from the dead and wanted to prevent the disciples from taking the body. That is why the tomb was guarded.

It makes sense to me that they would have also put his body at a further distance to keep it hidden, as well as it being guarded, and we don't know the real location, but also God knowing everything and being in control, being closer to Galilee where he would go next.

Also they could probably do it faster and I'm sure the soldiers had horses and chariots.

John tells us that the tomb was "at the place where Jesus was crucified" (John 19:41). Joseph of Arimathea buried Him. Because it was nearly sunset and the Sabbath was beginning, there was no time to transport the body anywhere else. And since the following day was a Sabbath, no-one would have moved it that day either.

If the authorities moved the body, and the disciples didn't know where it had been taken to, how would we know that Jesus had been raised? The whole point is that Christ's body had gone and nobody had moved it.

And Jesus didn't go to Galilee "next". He walked from Jerusalem to Emmaus with the two disciples in Luke 24. Then He appeared in Jerusalem that evening and the following Sunday (John 20). The trip to Galilee could have been at any time during the next month.

 

[Raccoon1010]

John tells us that the tomb was "at the place where Jesus was crucified" (John 19:41). Joseph of Arimathea buried Him. Because it was nearly sunset and the Sabbath was beginning, there was no time to transport the body anywhere else. And since the following day was a Sabbath, no-one would have moved it that day either.

If the authorities moved the body, and the disciples didn't know where it had been taken to, how would we know that Jesus had been raised? The whole point is that Christ's body had gone and nobody had moved it.

And Jesus didn't go to Galilee "next". He walked from Jerusalem to Emmaus with the two disciples in Luke 24. Then He appeared in Jerusalem that evening and the following Sunday (John 20). The trip to Galilee could have been at any time during the next month.

Thanks, that makes more sense.

 

[DuckieLady]

And Jesus didn't go to Galilee "next". He walked from Jerusalem to Emmaus with the two disciples in Luke 24. Then He appeared in Jerusalem that evening and the following Sunday (John 20). The trip to Galilee could have been at any time during the next month.

I agree this is how it reads in John but I'm confused.

Because look at Matthew 28:

7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: ‘He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.’ Now I have told you.”

8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. 9 Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him. 10 Then Jesus said to them, “Do not be afraid. Go and tell my brothers to go to Galilee; there they will see me.”

From the way I read the rest, he met with those to disciples as they were walking and then they also joined with the 11 apostles.

 

[DuckieLady]

The two disciples joining the rest is in Mark 16:12-13 and Luke 24:33-34.

They got up and returned at once to Jerusalem. There they found the Eleven and those with them, assembled together and saying, “It is true! The Lord has risen and has appeared to Simon.”