Silly question, but a thought provoking one:

[amadeus]

I have about a quarter of a brain, with only a minute portion of that working Amad, but even I can see the alteration of Ps 110:1, that is why I use that to show a deliberate manipulation of Scripture. Are you able to see the reason I say that sir?

The size of a person's brain, I believe, has nothing to do with his standing with God.

I look to the whole of the scriptures which I read regularly in three languages plus I look to God as well each day. I see many other possibilities in doctrines or beliefs which have resulted almost certainly in part in the existence of a multitude of groups calling themselves Christians.

I believe God has given me the reason for that. We may disagree on points, but let God be the final judge!

 

[amadeus]

Women's too! Christianity is not a stupid religion that teaches it all has to be stupid and never use your head. You have to use your head to read the Bible. Do you read the words and consider what the words mean? Well that is human logic and reasoning....God made it that way. If not the Bible would be a massage and you would feel your way through the Bible.
You do not have to worry if you have the answers, the Bible will have the answers.
And no need to be bashful about speaking up against Klondike beliefs.
Freedom of religion is a wonderful thing and I don't care if they believe that Christ is a Flying Saucer pilot and He is the one that flew all those "J's" back to biblical times so they could be in the KJV. But when they come on the forum and state that it is a biblical fact, I am going to object.

I consider many things and study many things, and look up meanings and recognize that God alone definitely has all of the answers. Sometimes He shares His answers with me. Sometimes He does not.

 

[Robert Gwin]

If you only believed Deuteronomy 6:4 you would know the Truth - but this is how God works - he makes the unbelievers declare His Glory

Amen to that David. But I am a bit confused, as your posts historically indicate that you do not believe that verse sir. What's up? Do you believe Jehovah is the one true God sir? Perhaps I have misread you.

 

[Robert Gwin]

You have to bring forth the Scripture that states JESUS was a 'spirit' before HE came to earth - it does exist.

Here is your Clue - It is in the Gospel and the LORD Himself stated it.

Great! I fully admit that I am ignorant of any Scripture stating it point blank, but always willing to learn. Show me sir.

 

[Wrangler]

I can see the alteration of Ps 110:1, that is why I use that to show a deliberate manipulation of Scripture. Are you able to see the reason I say that sir?

We may disagree on points, but let God be the final judge!

Another non-responsive reply. @Robert Gwin referred to a matter of fact - Scripture has been deliberately manipulated & mistranslated, e.g., Ps 110:1. The binary questions requiring 'yes' or 'no' answers are:

1. Do you recognize the fact that Scripture has been deliberately manipulated & mistranslated?
2. Do you know what the motivation to do this is driven by doctrine not found in Scripture (hence the need to manipulate the word of God)?

@Robert Gwin, the mental gymnastics of trinitarians is entertaining.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Agreed. An explicit teaching in Scripture. Ephesians 1:3

Brother Kel has many on-line videos that reveal what he calls the trinity delusion. Although I don't use the term Jehovah, I think it is synonymous with YWH or LORD (which my translations use). Trinitarians insistence in violating 1C, 2C, the Sh'ma & Mark 7:13 etc, is something to behold.

Scripture is even explicit that the resurrected Jesus in heaven is not identified as God but received a revelation from God. See Rev 1:1. Jehovah/YWH/LORD is the one and only God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. It's so obvious and explicit, only one fully indoctrinated to twist the simple and clear word of God could think any other way. We must pray for them.

We believe that Jehovah revealed His name in Hebrew first Wrangler, which as you know is YHWH spoken Yahweh. However you and I post English words here, therefore instead of saying a few words in Hebrew and a few in English, I stay with English fully. Jehovah is the English word for YHWH. It is clear to me that Jehovah accepts that as acceptable, because I see that He did not allow the translators of the King James version to remove it completely even though they tried hard to do so. After His name became known throughout the earth, He has allowed several versions to remove it in it's whole form, but they all as far as I know have not removed it rendered as Jah.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Hello Robert Gwin,

Why are you repeating back to me, what I myself have said?

In Christ Jesus
Chris

Most likely because in my ignorance I failed to understand that is what you were trying to make me understand. If you stated that, then I fully agree with you maam. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Hello @Robert Gwin,

I believe it to be literal.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

I kinda gathered that, of course only time will reveal which way it will come.

 

[Robert Gwin]

The size of a person's brain, I believe, has nothing to do with his standing with God.

I look to the whole of the scriptures which I read regularly in three languages plus I look to God as well each day. I see many other possibilities in doctrines or beliefs which have resulted almost certainly in part in the existence of a multitude of groups calling themselves Christians.

I believe God has given me the reason for that. We may disagree on points, but let God be the final judge!

I fully agree Amad. In fact I would go as far to say that the less capable an individual was, the greater their chances of salvation. Many scriptures indicate that to me sir. Likely you believe as I that those who have no capability, cannot be held accountable, and will definitely be resurrected if they have died, or be preserved through the tribulation. It would be unjust on Gods part to be any other way.

 

[David in NJ]

Amen to that David. But I am a bit confused, as your posts historically indicate that you do not believe that verse sir. What's up? Do you believe Jehovah is the one true God sir? Perhaps I have misread you.

lolx100 - thank you for the laugh this morning - laughter is God's Blessing you know for the soul.

 

[David in NJ]

The size of a person's brain, I believe, has nothing to do with his standing with God.

I look to the whole of the scriptures which I read regularly in three languages plus I look to God as well each day. I see many other possibilities in doctrines or beliefs which have resulted almost certainly in part in the existence of a multitude of groups calling themselves Christians.

I believe God has given me the reason for that. We may disagree on points, but let God be the final judge!

Well, when i have 'peas for brains' i make pea soup - my favorite next to chicken soup - but i am not a chicken, so there........

i also have, once a year on my birthday, delicious Chocolate Mousse Cake - but i am not a coco bean either, so there.........

But i am a Son of God, purchased by His Blood and Born from Above, there so by the will of God............

 

[David in NJ]

We believe that Jehovah revealed His name in Hebrew first Wrangler, which as you know is YHWH spoken Yahweh. However you and I post English words here, therefore instead of saying a few words in Hebrew and a few in English, I stay with English fully. Jehovah is the English word for YHWH. It is clear to me that Jehovah accepts that as acceptable, because I see that He did not allow the translators of the King James version to remove it completely even though they tried hard to do so. After His name became known throughout the earth, He has allowed several versions to remove it in it's whole form, but they all as far as I know have not removed it rendered as Jah.

YHWH is not His Name - that is His Title - YHWH declared His Name to us as a Eternal Commandment, which you break, thru ignorance that is upon you from false teachers.

 

[amadeus]

Another non-responsive reply. @Robert Gwin referred to a matter of fact - Scripture has been deliberately manipulated & mistranslated, e.g., Ps 110:1. The binary questions requiring 'yes' or 'no' answers are:

1. Do you recognize the fact that Scripture has been deliberately manipulated & mistranslated?
2. Do you know what the motivation to do this is driven by doctrine not found in Scripture (hence the need to manipulate the word of God)?

@Robert Gwin, the mental gymnastics of trinitarians is entertaining.

I guess you have not been paying attention, my friend. I have not embraced the Trinity for probably more than 40 years.

We do live for God by faith, do we not?

 

[amadeus]

I fully agree Amad. In fact I would go as far to say that the less capable an individual was, the greater their chances of salvation. Many scriptures indicate that to me sir. Likely you believe as I that those who have no capability, cannot be held accountable, and will definitely be resurrected if they have died, or be preserved through the tribulation. It would be unjust on Gods part to be any other way.

Peace, my friend! As Jesus put it, "much is given... much is required". People with above average intelligence are rich in that way and may find it difficult to set aside their ability to figure things out and to choose rather to simply surrender to God. What does that mean? God knows!

What do we need to know?

Leave that last question as a rhetorical one and give God the glory!

 

[charity]

Billy to Bible study teacher:
Why did God have to send Himself down to earth
to become His own son
to sacrifice Himself
just to convince Himself to forgive us?

Hello @Robert Gwin,

This undoubtedly very silly question, has taken you on quite a journey: thereby achieving what you intended. Though it can be broken down and addressed in segments and reveal profound truths concerning God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ His only begotten Son:-

The Lord Jesus Christ calls Himself, One Who was sent: 'I am one that bear witness of Myself, and the Father that sent Me beareth witness of Me.' (Joh 8:18); 'A sent one', is also of course the description of an Apostle (Hebrews 3:1-6): and He is also called, 'the Apostle and High Priest of our profession':-

'Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling,
.. consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession,
.... Christ Jesus;
...... Who was faithful to Him that appointed Him,
........ as also Moses was faithful in all His house.
For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses,
.. inasmuch as he who hath builded the house
.... hath more honour than the house.
...... For every house is builded by some man;
........ but he that built all things is God.'
And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant,
.. for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
.... But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we,
...... if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope
........ firm unto the end.'
(Hebrews 3:1-6)

'Wherefore when He cometh into the world, He saith,
"Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not,
but a body hast thou prepared Me:
In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,)
to do Thy will, O God."
Above when He said, "Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings
and offering for sin thou wouldest not,
neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;"
Then said He, "Lo, I come to do Thy will, O God."
He taketh away the first, that He may establish the second.
By the which will we are sanctified
through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.'
(Heb 10:5-10)

* Of course you do not have the book of Hebrews in your Bible, do you? What wondrous truths you are missing out on.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[Robert Gwin]

YHWH is not His Name - that is His Title - YHWH declared His Name to us as a Eternal Commandment, which you break, thru ignorance that is upon you from false teachers.

I am sorry David, we will not be able to discuss things, apparently you do not take the word of God seriously. It is very hard to communicate with someone who is inconsistent in their speech.

 

[David in NJ]

I am sorry David, we will not be able to discuss things, apparently you do not take the word of God seriously. It is very hard to communicate with someone who is inconsistent in their speech.

Thank you for the compliment - the pharisees and sadducees said the same thing of the LORD.

1 - You make statement about the LORD that you are unable to verify from Scripture
2 - You break the First and Second Commandments
3 - You follow false witnesses who reject Scripture and change Scripture for their false doctrines

Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him.
1 - God is Spirit
2 - and those who worship Him must worship in spirit
3 - and truth.

When Jesus knew in Himself that His disciples complained about this, He said to them, “Does this offend you?
1 - What then if you should see the Son of Man ascend where He was before?
2 - It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing.
3 - The words that I speak to you are Spirit, and they are Life.

But there are some of you who do not believe.”

Better review my Posts as there is LIFE in the Scriptures that i posted for you and others. And this LIFE is JESUS the LORD

 

[Robert Gwin]

Hello @Robert Gwin,

This undoubtedly very silly question, has taken you on quite a journey: thereby achieving what you intended. Though it can be broken down and addressed in segments and reveal profound truths concerning God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ His only begotten Son:-

The Lord Jesus Christ calls Himself, One Who was sent: 'I am one that bear witness of Myself, and the Father that sent Me beareth witness of Me.' (Joh 8:18); 'A sent one', is also of course the description of an Apostle (Hebrews 3:1-6): and He is also called, 'the Apostle and High Priest of our profession':-

'Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling,
.. consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession,
.... Christ Jesus;
...... Who was faithful to Him that appointed Him,
........ as also Moses was faithful in all His house.
For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses,
.. inasmuch as he who hath builded the house
.... hath more honour than the house.
...... For every house is builded by some man;
........ but he that built all things is God.'
And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant,
.. for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
.... But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we,
...... if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope
........ firm unto the end.'
(Hebrews 3:1-6)

'Wherefore when He cometh into the world, He saith,
"Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not,
but a body hast thou prepared Me:
In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,)
to do Thy will, O God."
Above when He said, "Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings
and offering for sin thou wouldest not,
neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;"
Then said He, "Lo, I come to do Thy will, O God."
He taketh away the first, that He may establish the second.
By the which will we are sanctified
through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.'
(Heb 10:5-10)

* Of course you do not have the book of Hebrews in your Bible, do you? What wondrous truths you are missing out on.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

The Book of Hebrews is a part of the Bible canon maam. All Christians albeit apostles, or disciples are sent maam. Our assignment is to "go". Mat 28:19,20

Jesus had only a few apostles, I think there were a total of 14 which includes the original 12, and then Matthias who replaced Judas, and the apostle Paul. You were absolutely correct the word means sent.

 

[Wrangler]

I guess you have not been paying attention, my friend. I have not embraced the Trinity for probably more than 40 years.

True as that may be, you still did not answer his two 'yes' or 'no' questions.

We do live for God by faith, do we not?

Instead, you consistently aim to change the subject of trinitarian abuse, manipulation and altering the word of God to general points like above.

Honestly, I do not know why you continually hijack threads to such feel-good-isms.

 

[Wrangler]

I am sorry David, we will not be able to discuss things, apparently you do not take the word of God seriously. It is very hard to communicate with someone who is inconsistent in their speech.

I've noticed that also about David.