Living in Sin or just roommates who love each other?

[Nancy]

Paul was so spot on when he said it would be better to remain single, as he himself was.
To me, the best part is that you do not have to go through such deep grief when a spouse dies. And to me, that is the worst kind of pain. You learn to depend on God MUCH more, especially if your body is broken and cannot do the things we once could...even the smallest of things He comes through for us...every time. Well, at least once our tantrum is over ... j/k but not really...
Just saying that being single is not the horrible prison most think it is...it is freedom and HE gives us the strength to move on, no matter our attitude at the moment, we just keep coming back to Jesus as, He is always there.
JMO

 

[amigo de christo]

This is a pretty good answer but I wonder if a person can be deceived by pride in his or hers interpretation of the Bible.
I mean if two people talk about God, that’s a church.
This forum is a virtual church.
If you don’t want “a church” then you need to be alone and pray. But some of you have a problem with monks who do this. So it’s all very confusing.

Yes indeed their can be pride within a person . Its something all must be on gaurd against . ALWAYS remember
anything a person knows comes From GOD . ITS a gift . Thus use it to honor the LORD and not to exalt oneself .
And ps , some of us are alreadying having church . We meet in tiny groups . Some on the phone and etc , some in person .

 

[amigo de christo]

But if two or more people read the Bible and arrive at different conclusions, then what say you?

Pray about it , cause the letters from the apostels and gospels of JESUS aint all that hard to truly grasp .
Often when differences arise , its due to a pre concieved idea taught of men from their own perspectives .
Too many pre , post , mid , too many despinsationalism , etc , too many precepts of men have messed many up .
IF we would simply read the letters for ourselves , most of it is very simple to understand .
Only a few parts might be harder to grasp . But with prayer and a willing heart that should be made clear in time .

 

[amigo de christo]

Aka , we got lutheran persepective , calvin persepective , OSAS perspective , we got pre trib , we got mid trib we got post trib .
We got all these teachings that have been handed down by men . THE ONLY problem is they cant all be right ..............
LEARN the bible for yourselves .
It is not like paul , peter , jude , james were writting letters in hidden code that only wise scholars could grasp .
PS they were LETTERS to the churches . NO HIDDEN MESSAGES only SCHOLARS COULD UNDERSTAND .

 

[Nancy]

Pray about it , cause the letters from the apostels and gospels of JESUS aint all that hard to truly grasp .
Often when differences arise , its due to a pre concieved idea taught of men from their own perspectives .
Too many pre , post , mid , too many despinsationalism , etc , too many precepts of men have messed many up .
IF we would simply read the letters for ourselves , most of it is very simple to understand .
Only a few parts might be harder to grasp . But with prayer and a willing heart that should be made clear in time .

Yes, EVEN the KJV

 

[amigo de christo]

Men just made the bible hard to understand , SO as they could CONTROL the church . FIGURE IT OUT for its too late .
WE dont need hermes , and some special scholar to understand WHAT GOD INSPIRED . PS , you need the HOLY GHOST
and though it might not be understood in a day , WE WILL LEARN in time . JUST read that bible for yourselves
and pray .

 

[Nancy]

Pray about it , cause the letters from the apostels and gospels of JESUS aint all that hard to truly grasp .
Often when differences arise , its due to a pre concieved idea taught of men from their own perspectives .
Too many pre , post , mid , too many despinsationalism , etc , too many precepts of men have messed many up .
IF we would simply read the letters for ourselves , most of it is very simple to understand .
Only a few parts might be harder to grasp . But with prayer and a willing heart that should be made clear in time .

I remember getting my first "bible". It was when making either my First Communion or my Confirmation in the CC. All it was were the Psalms and Proverbs. I never even knew that at the time until my mom had gotten hold of a "Good News" bible. Had to be in the 70's.
All those letters never even given to the very church they were meant for!

 

[amigo de christo]

I remember getting my first "bible". It was when making either my First Communion or my Confirmation in the CC. All it was were the Psalms and Proverbs. I never even knew that at the time until my mom had gotten hold of a "Good News" bible. Had to be in the 70's.
All those letters never even given to the very church they were meant for!

That is so sad sister . But true it is . This is how a powerful cult can be born . They feed them their own decievings
and keep silent , OR TWIST the other parts that prove their error . This is truly why , specially in this deceptive day and age ,
we are far better off learning the bible for our own selves . Look at all the twisting prosperity preachers do
or emergent , or liberal , or sadly even most evanglicals , let alone what ROME has done . Its a mess sister .
BUT THE LORD knows those who are HIS , and i say let all who name the name of JESUS depart from inquity
AND GET IN the bible for yourselves and learn it well . GOD is with the lambs . HE Knows how to take care of us .

 

[Ferris Bueller]

It would seem to me there is no sin till sexual relations commence.

At least no sexual sin.
But there may certainly be sin if they are sinning against a weaker brother or sister by causing them to stumble and sin against their conscience.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Looks like some Church members would desire to put together a posse and cast them into the lake of fire.

No.
Burning them at the stake will suffice, lol.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

I also see some try to make the argument that the Church should lock the doors and not let sinners in.

As long as the unbeliever, and the church, understands the unbelievers place in the church they can attend. The phony hypocrite, sticking his nose into church business and doctrine, that clown needs to be shown the door...

1 Corinthians 5:9-12

9I wrote you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people. 10I was not including the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11But now I am writing you not to associate with anyone who claims to be a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a verbal abuser, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.12What business of mine is it to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?​

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Could it not be possible to love someone and care for them deeply but not the kind of love that would cause you to marry?

That's called 'being friends'.
That means you go home to your house at night, and they go home to theirs.

But as someone pointed out, you're kidding yourself if you think you can have that kind of relationship without it leading to something more. I'm not saying it definitely will happen, but it probably will. 'Friendship' with the opposite sex is dangerous if you think it really is going to only be friendship. And, honestly, I think we all know this deep down, but we hide behind that defense to indulge secret desires.

 

[Enoch111]

Could it not be possible to love someone and care for them deeply but not the kind of love that would cause you to marry?

Not if one is a man and the other is a woman. That would simply be asking for trouble.

 

[TEXBOW]

Not if one is a man and the other is a woman. That would simply be asking for trouble.

I would agree except two in the case of an elderly couple. Could be more about physical support and shared resources than a love affair. I don't see an elderly couple causing too many folks to stumble. I'm sure there are cases of an elderly person who simply could not get by without a live in companion to help with expenses or care.

 

[bbyrd009]

Well, you know as well as I do that that is pure baloney. They have at least another 20 to 30 years before them.

as nancy mentioned, i guess there might be financial considerations?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

as nancy mentioned, i guess there might be financial considerations?

Then they're not really in love.

Could be more about physical support and shared resources than a love affair.

 

[marks]

I feel like someone is hitting me in the bottoms of my feet with a board. I was supposed to eat 3 hours ago but the pain's just got me tied up. I gotta make myself eat.

The bottoms of your feet? That's interesting! When I start getting my chemical imbalance symptoms, it often starts with pain on the bottoms of my feet.

Much love!

 

[marks]

I feel like someone is hitting me in the bottoms of my feet with a board. I was supposed to eat 3 hours ago but the pain's just got me tied up. I gotta make myself eat.

Do you eat figs?

 

[TEXBOW]

Then they're not really in love.

So it's the feeling of Love that is the problem?

 

[Rudometkin]

Yes, but we have a responsibility to the weak to not give the appearance of sinning.

Who is to say the weak aren't viewing us as intending to cause unnecessary discourse right now?

So should we all stop discussing?

Where do you draw the line?