Omicron variant

[Deborah_]

Testimonials are important....how are you and yours reacting to the vaccines

We are doing very well, thankyou. I've had two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine and now one of the Pfizer. No side-effects apart from a few hours of 'fluey' symptoms (which you can get from any vaccine) and a sore arm for a few days. Everyone I know has been vaccinated, with no serious side-effects at all.

Those are the people who literally SABOTAGED effective and cheap treatments like ivermectin and HCQ/the HCQ combo pack

You seem to be unaware of other more effective and equally cheap treatments that are being widely used - dexamethasone, now to be combined with spironolactone.

 

[Earburner]

Not if you go to Revelation 13 and see that (1) the Beast is a man (the Antichrist) and (2) the image is a talking image.

A challenge for you: in the KJV there is no "THE" Anti Christ, being a singular man.
Your way of thinking is religiously contrived through "church-ianity".

 

[Earburner]

Correct. And unfortunately those are the people at the top -- government officials, presidents, prime ministers, health ministers, premiers, public health agencies, etc. Those are the people who literally SABOTAGED effective and cheap treatments like ivermectin and HCQ/the HCQ combo pack, so that they could push lethal and toxic injections on the whole citizenry. In Australia, they are forcibly injecting the aboriginals, and arresting them for resistance. There are millions who are protesting and the governments are simply ignoring them. If that is not "really mean" and downright evil, tell me what is?

Its a Global plan.
All here should read the letter of Albert Pike, a 33 degree Mason of the Scottish Rite, who in 1871, sent a letter to a fellow Mason, named Mazzini, explaining his vision/plan of how three World wars were to be carried out.

And of course today, all of that is declared to be "a conspiracy". And indeed it is, but it's their conspiracy, and it's against the people of the world, aka "The Luciferian Doctrine".

 

[TLHKAJ]

Oh, it's definitely real. But I've read a report today that this new variant causes less severe symptoms, even in people who aren't vaccinated, so the panic will hopefully turn out to be an overreaction. I've been vaccinated anyway, so I'm not worrying. But the extra restrictions will be a pain while they last.

In my circle of family and friends, the only one vaccinated was my mother who then got a severe case, and then post-hospitalization got worse, then oneumonia, and was killed by their covid meds in the hospital. By the time she no longer had covid, her organs were failing and she was bleeding internally (side effect from the meds). Then she died.

On the other hand, I had about a dozen friends and family (non-vaxed) who had covid but never hospitalized, and all completely recovered within a week or two.

All the hype about being fully vaxed to prevent the spread or to protect one from a worse case is LIES and DECEPTION. We don't even know for sure if this is just a strain of the flu. The flu all but disappeared over the last two years.

 

[GaryAnderson]

Just curious, what does the Bible say about going to the doctor?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

From what I am hearing this is just like Delta. Just more contagious.

Of course the politicians and news media will make it worse than it probably is. those are the days we live in.

Best recommendation is take care of yourself. I had the vaccination last march. And just came positive last month. Had hardly any symptoms, so I am confident the vaccine helped me (I was high risk with my medical condition)

We can either cower in fear. Do what we need to do to protect ourselves. Or not worry about it pray for the best and hope nothing happens if we get ill.

Sadly. This is not going away anytime soon.

 

[dev553344]

We are doing very well, thankyou. I've had two doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine and now one of the Pfizer. No side-effects apart from a few hours of 'fluey' symptoms (which you can get from any vaccine) and a sore arm for a few days. Everyone I know has been vaccinated, with no serious side-effects at all.



You seem to be unaware of other more effective and equally cheap treatments that are being widely used - dexamethasone, now to be combined with spironolactone.

Everyone I know that was vaccinated is OK too. And my counselor got COVID after being vaxxed and she is OK too.

 

[Wrangler]

Just curious, what does the Bible say about going to the doctor?

proverbs says it is wise to seek counsels of advice. This is why the US Constitution is worded so that the accused may have the assistance of counsel. Today's protect guild, 'officer's of the court' attorney's talk like anyone who does not blindly follow them is a fool.

The same with any field of endeavor. It is foolish to blindly follow supposed 'experts.' We are responsible for our choices. We may delegate authority but not responsibility. Hope this answers your question.

 

[Deborah_]

I should add that I know several people who have had Covid after being vaccinated. Most of them were high risk, all but one got it very mildly, and the other was admitted to hospital but only for a couple of days (and didn't need a ventilator). So the vaccine definitely seems worth having.

 

[Wrangler]

I know several people who have had Covid after being vaccinated... So the vaccine definitely seems worth having.

Wow! Do you hear yourself? You know several people who got COVID after being vaccinated and you still believe the vaccine is worth it? Goes to show the effectiveness of indoctrination.

Vaccines are not supposed to make symptoms less. Vaccines are supposed to make one immune to the disease! How do you KNOW these people would have had severe symptoms if not for the vaccine?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I should add that I know several people who have had Covid after being vaccinated. Most of them were high risk, all but one got it very mildly, and the other was admitted to hospital but only for a couple of days (and didn't need a ventilator). So the vaccine definitely seems worth having.

This happened to me, and I know of at least 4 others. My wife and a co-worker was exposed and did not even test positive and never showed symptoms. The ones who tested positive (including myself) had minimal symptoms. I would not even have been tested. but the only person I was around who was sick tested Positive for covid. so I did it to protect others in my shop who were unvaccinated.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Wow! Do you hear yourself? You know several people who got COVID after being vaccinated and you still believe the vaccine is worth it? Goes to show the effectiveness of indoctrination.

Vaccines are not supposed to make symptoms less. Vaccines are supposed to make one immune to the disease! How do you KNOW these people would have had severe symptoms if not for the vaccine?

are those people still alive?

I guess it did something.

The vaccine does not promise to keep you from getting it, it is supposed to help prevent you from getting severely ill and die.

 

[Wrangler]

are those people still alive?

I guess it did something.

The vaccine does not promise to keep you from getting it, it is supposed to help prevent you from getting severely ill and die.

Pure propaganda. Are you aware that people who do not have the vaccine get mild cases of COVID?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Pure propaganda. Are you aware that people who do not have the vaccine get mild cases of COVID?

yes, Your propoganda is well known in this forum

We are talking about high risk people. People who would most likely die. or at the very least end up in the hospital with long term ramifications..

We are not talking about healthy young people who have great immune systems.

Although lately. Even that is not stopping this disease..

but as usual. Believe what you want. No one here is stopping you

 

[GaryAnderson]

yes, Your propoganda is well known in this forum

We are talking about high risk people. People who would most likely die. or at the very least end up in the hospital with long term ramifications..

We are not talking about healthy young people who have great immune systems.

Although lately. Even that is not stopping this disease..

but as usual. Believe what you want. No one here is stopping you

Honestly I would rank Wrangler 6th or 7th on the conspiracy theory meter. There are a few others here who have essentially checked out of reality.

 

[dev553344]

Pure propaganda. Are you aware that people who do not have the vaccine get mild cases of COVID?

You're actually wrong about this. The Washington state department of health reports:

https://www.doh.wa.gov/Portals/1/Do...-tables/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf
COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths by Vaccination Status
November 24, 2021
Summary
Unvaccinated 12-34 year-olds in Washington are
• 5 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34 year-olds.
• 14 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 12-34
year-olds.
Unvaccinated 35-64 year-olds are
• 5 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64 year-olds.
• 18 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 35-64
year-olds.
Unvaccinated 65+ year-olds are
• 5 times more likely to get COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.
• 10 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-
olds.
• 9 times more likely to die of COVID-19 compared with fully vaccinated 65+ year-olds.

 

[Earburner]

Pure propaganda. Are you aware that people who do not have the vaccine get mild cases of COVID?

I am one of those people! I now thank God that my level of immunity is now 13+ times greater than those who are vaccinated, and for a much longer duration of efficacy, no matter what the Covid variant may be.
I am trusting in the Lord all the way through this plan-demic.

 

[Wrangler]

QUOTE="Wrangler, post: 1173178, member: 9929"]Pure propaganda. Are you aware that people who do not have the vaccine get mild cases of COVID?[/QUOTE]

We are talking about high risk people. People who would most likely die. or at the very least end up in the hospital with long term ramifications..

Not really an answer to my question. Most likely die if these high risk people did not take the vaccine? Where do you get this? Survival rates are 98.5% - 99.6%. From Debunking Myths About Coronavirus | Bayhealth | Bayhealth
Current estimates of the infection mortality rate for the coronavirus range from 0.4-1.5%.

I suppose there is no point in sharing the growing data that the vaccine is more dangerous than the disease.
Symptomatic Acute Myocarditis in 7 Adolescents After Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccination
Covid-19 Vaccines and Myocarditis Link Probed by Researchers

 

[Wrangler]

Are you aware that people who do not have the vaccine get mild cases of COVID?

You're actually wrong about this.

I am not wrong about this. My question was binary. Your post is about probability of being worse of, if not getting the vaccine. Let me ask again, are you aware that people who do not have the vaccine get mild cases of COVID?

 

[dev553344]

I am not wrong about this. My question was binary. Your post is about probability of being worse of, if not getting the vaccine. Let me ask again, are you aware that people who do not have the vaccine get mild cases of COVID?

The stats I posted indicate that non-vaccinated are much more likely to be hospitalized from a Covid infection. So no that is not correct.