If The Kingdom isn't here yet then what is JESUS CHRIST a King of?

[Eternally Grateful]

Hebrews 8:13
In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.


Hebrews 9:10
Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them UNTIL THE TIME OF REFORMATION.


Galatians 3:19
Wherefore then serveth the law? IT WAS ADDED BECAUSE OF TRANSGRESSIONS, TILL THE SEED SHOULD COME to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.

Galatians 3:25
But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

all these verses speak of the MOSAIC COVENANT.

We are talking about the ABRAHAMIC COVENANT.

Please try to differentiate the two.

 

[Timtofly]

What did modern day Jews do to claim GOD gave them that land of Israel? Did they Repent through JESUS to hold The Covenant of Abraham? no.

That is the whole point of it ain't over yet. Only God can change the situation.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What did modern day Jews do to claim GOD gave them that land of Israel? Did they Repent through JESUS to hold The Covenant of Abraham? no.

they do not have the land my friend.. And they are not living in peace..

It is obvious you do not understand what God said about the promise..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Umm, the thread title?

What kingdom on earth were you posting about, that has not happened yet?

People on earth are not currently living in any kingdom mentioned in Scripture. That was my point. You cannot live in two places at the same time. Either you are here on earth, or already in that heavenly city.

ok sorry.

I was talking about the discussion I was having, The topic of Israel and the land of canaan. sorry

 

[pittsburghjoe]

they do not have the land my friend.. And they are not living in peace..

It is obvious you do not understand what God said about the promise..

Jews could have Faith in an upcoming MESSIAH before JESUS showed up, this is how they were included in The ABRAHAMIC COVENANT. Guess what happens after The MESSIAH was here and they killed Him?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

What did modern day Jews do to claim GOD gave them that land of Israel? Did they Repent through JESUS to hold The Covenant of Abraham? no.

the abrahamic covenant is an unconditional covenant

God told Abraham, Isaac and jacob, I WILL

He did not say if you do this, I will

 

[Timtofly]

ok sorry.

I was talking about the discussion I was having, The topic of Israel and the land of canaan. sorry

I was also.

It is not going to happen until after the Second Coming.

Not sure what the OP is all on about, other than dissing posters. Obviously it seems to him already a done deal, and a failed deal.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Jews could have Faith in an upcoming MESSIAH before JESUS showed up, this is how they were included in The ABRAHAMIC COVENANT. Guess what happens after The MESSIAH was here and they killed Him?

that was not the condition of the land contract.

sorry my friend. When God said I give you this land, he did not ofer a condition,

In fact. Only HE walked through the middle. He made abraham go to sleep. this proves it was not a dual covenant, but an I Will covenant.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Parable of the Marriage Feast

And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.

But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

that was not the condition of the land contract.

sorry my friend. When God said I give you this land, he did not ofer a condition,

In fact. Only HE walked through the middle. He made abraham go to sleep. this proves it was not a dual covenant, but an I Will covenant.

Do you hear yourself? You are saying Jews can be Saved without JESUS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Do you hear yourself? You are saying Jews can be Saved without JESUS. WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Nope. I never said this. This is not what we are discussions, we are discussing land, not eternal salvation.

Once again, What is up with you and your attitude? Don’t be talking like thes especially when you can not even comprehend what is being said.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Nope. I never said this. This is not what we are discussions, we are discussing land, not eternal salvation.

Once again, What is up with you and your attitude? Don’t be talking like thes especially when you can not even comprehend what is being said.

The Land is the land of The Saved ...for Infinity ...do the Math.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Land is the land of The Saved ...for Infinity ...do the Math.

Nope

The land Abraham walked on. And his family was given after they entered it had nothing to do with anyones salvation.

Sadly it appears you have bought into replacement theology. Which attempts to make salvation a requirment for living in the land. News flash. Before AD 70 Before the final punishment was eone acted for the 3rd time. There were more unbelievers living in the land than believers.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

IT WAS NEVER ABOUT PHYSICAL LAND

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The Land is the land of The Saved ...for Infinity ...do the Math.

The eternal land is promised to ALL believers no matter what race they were

The land of Canaan was only promised to Abraham, Isaac, Jacobs and his 12 children and their families. Which became the nation of Israel.

Eternal salvation was not a pre-requisite.

Again, Your trying to replace the future land promised to all. With the ancient land only promised to a select group. Hence the term replacement theology

 

[Eternally Grateful]

IT WAS NEVER ABOUT PHYSICAL LAND

Gen 15 and Gen 17 was never about physical land?

Lol. You can scream it all you want, it will not make what you believe true.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

You need fake Israel to be a thing to make your Premill view work.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You need fake Israel to be a thing to make your Premill view work.

Nope

I just need Prophecy to be fulfilled to make my view work.

God does not go back on his promises. If he does. I have no hope. BECAUSE GOD CAN CAST ME OUT JUST BECAUSE.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You need fake Israel to be a thing to make your Premill view work.

By the way, Fake or unrepentant Israel will never fulfill prophecy. In order for prophecy to be fulfilled. Israel will have to repent and come to Christ.

It appears that is the part you do not like. And thats a shame.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

The Seventy Weeks are over ...do you think GOD extends His Prophecy because you want Him to?