The Case For The Triune GodHead!

[robert derrick]

God creates all things from nothing, ex nihilo, and so a created christ would be created from nothing, except Christ were with God before the beginning of creation, which was from everlasting.

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person.

Only God Himself Being His own glory can ever Be the brightness of His own glory, even as the brightness of the sun can never be except that of the sun.

The express image of God's Persons is His form and shape, which is His Being, which only God can Be:

Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God.

The Word was Being God in the form of God in the beginning of Creation, and was not robbed of Being God in the days of His flesh.

The One Being God became Three being God, each Being equal with God, neither robbing God of His Being and glory and power, so that there was no God beside Him who became Three.

For the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

God shares not His glory with other than God Himself, and so only God can lighten His glory, and only God can be the light of His glory.

If the brightness and light of God's glory, and the exact Image of His Person, Being equal with God in form and shape, is not God, then God shares His glory with another that is not God, who is the shining of His glory.

That was the hope of Lucifer by pride. The man Christ Jesus is not the fallen Lucifer risen again to shine the glory of God for himself.

That is a fallen and risen and shining false christ:

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

Those who teach the falsely created christ have transformed themselves into the apostles of another gospel, by much rejecting of Scripture as plainly written, twisting of Scripture from what is written, bringing in really grand and vain carnal minded arguments of pseudo scholarship.

Why? Because they can read of two being in the One and the Same throne of God and the Lamb, but not wrap their carnal heads around Two Being the One and the Same God, before that One became Three.

God only shares His glory with Himself: The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, which are One God now being Three in heaven.

As the man says in the old Magnificent Seven: Now we are seven.

And so the One God said in the beginning of creation, Now we are Three, and let us make man in our image.

 

[Paul Christensen]

Created Christ believers say that God has no soul, neither can He.

And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you. And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people.

And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

The Lord God Jehovah's soul.

Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.

They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. But be not thou far from me, O LORD: O my strength, haste thee to help me. Deliver my soul from the sword; my darling from the power of the dog.

The Lord Jehovah prophesying of His soul Jesus on earth and upon the cross.

Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

The soul of Jesus not left in hell.

Jesus was the soul of Jehovah come in the flesh.

God the Word Jehovah spake of His soul in the Old Covenant, and God the Son allowed His soul to be pay the price for sin on the cross.

God the Father has no soul, neither God that is a Spirit, but only the Word Jehovah and God the Son have a soul.

Now, the created christ believers will need change their doctrine to now say God has a soul, or go to the Hebrew to show how soul is no soul when speaking of the soul of the LORD God. Or 'my' does not mean 'his'.

Pretty close to Arianism:
Arians have been called the “archetypal” Christian heretics; accusations of Arianism have been made in almost every century since the fourth. Taking its name from an Egyptian priest, Arius, this heresy holds that Jesus, while the son of God, is neither eternal nor as fully divine as God the father.

 

[robert derrick]

There is always one or two Scripture to prove doctrine of Christ, that unbelievers must twist in meaning, change by 'translation', or do away with by 'manuscript'.

In Christ Being God in the flesh, there are already several: The Word was God, and the Word was made flesh. The Son of God is the true God and eternal life. The Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost are one in heaven.

Here is some more: The Light.

He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.

Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.

And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

And so, Jesus Christ is that true Light, the Light of life, the Light of God's glory:

This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Scripture does not say Christ is the shining of the Light of God, nor the reflection of His glory, but is The Light, and God is Light, and so the man Christ Jesus is the God that is Light, in whom is no darkness at all, and them that walk in Him, that is the true Light, walk not in darkness.

Jesus Christ is the true Light, the true God, who is that true Light.

 

[robert derrick]

To say that Jesus Christ is Light, but not God, then he is the light of no God at all: the god of this world.

Separating Christ from God is separating light from the sun, which is no sun at all: But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings.

False christ creators must reject that God the Light dwelt among men in the flesh, or reject that the true God is the true Light: they are idolizing a name, while worshipping a sun that is no light at all, but are wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

The light of a created christ is no light of God at all, but is greater darkness than the unbelieving that claim no worship of the true God at all:

If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

Why were they forsaken of the Lord and shut out from His marriage of the Lamb? Because they were seeking a light to have from the world, from a christ who is no light at all, because he is a false christ and not God.

They went to them that buy and sell for their light, which is only for them marked for the beast. They thought to be chaste virgins prepared for Christ, and found themselves to be shut out among the adulterers and hypocrites of the world.

 

[Paul Christensen]

To say that Jesus Christ is Light, but not God, then he is the light of no God at all: the god of this world.

Separating Christ from God is separating light from the sun, which is no sun at all: But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings.

False christ creators must reject that God the Light dwelt among men in the flesh, or reject that the true God is the true Light: they are idolizing a name, while worshipping a sun that is no light at all, but are wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever.

The light of a created christ is no light of God at all, but is greater darkness than the unbelieving that claim no worship of the true God at all:

If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us. But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

Why were they forsaken of the Lord and shut out from His marriage of the Lamb? Because they were seeking a light to have from the world, from a christ who is no light at all, because he is a false christ and not God.

They went to them that buy and sell for their light, which is only for them marked for the beast. They thought to be chaste virgins prepared for Christ, and found themselves to be shut out among the adulterers and hypocrites of the world.

It may have been that they had a profession of religion but not the Holy Spirit. Oil is a figure of the Holy Spirit. The ones who are truly prepared to get to heaven are the ones who ensure that they have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. Many people put on the Christian "badge" but don't allow the Holy Spirit to change their hearts in order to be confirmed to the image of Christ. Especially those who take grace the extreme where they ignore that the Law is just and holy and is our guide to the way we should be walking in the Spirit. This is not the Old Covenant way of having to keep the Law perfectly or else there is a curse. Redemption in Christ means that we are regenerated and converted to Christ apart from the Law, but this doesn't mean that the Law is rejected. It is the sign of a genuinely converted believer, having the Holy Spirit indwelling, that he wants to live righteously according to the Law, albeit not perfectly. In fact a person cannot develop sanctification without the indwelling Holy Spirit. So, my view of the unwise virgins is the religious person who uses the grace of God as an excuse to keep on enjoying his willful sinning as he did before "getting religion".

The righteousness of faith is genuine conversion to Christ (by grace are we saved through faith, not of ourselves, it is the gift of God; not of works lest any should boast").
The righteousness of Law is the voluntary life of righteousness by keeping the Law, which is sanctification. This righteousness is not the strict righteousness required of Abraham, Moses and David, who still needed to offer animal sacrifices for their sins. It is the righteousness that the indwelling Holy Spirit works in us of the works ordained by the Lord for us.

 

[robert derrick]

One of the teachings of created christ, to explain how He was before the world began, which is Scriptural truth, is that He was only wisdom of God personified, as per Prov 8:

The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

They say this is pre-incarnated Christ as being created and set up wisdom of God before the beginning of creation.

The problem is course is that wisdom is also called a she, and a her.

Christ as God was never referred to as a she.

Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

So, was the created christ also Sister Patience?? Was the she-christ twins or was her namesake both Madam Wisdom and Lady Patience??

Scripture is purposely written by God to make foolish them that are wise in the thinking of the world, but not in the knowing and teaching of Scripture.

 

[tigger 2]

One of the teachings of created christ, to explain how He was before the world began, which is Scriptural truth, is that He was only wisdom of God personified, as per Prov 8:

The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old. I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

They say this is pre-incarnated Christ as being created and set up wisdom of God before the beginning of creation.

The problem is course is that wisdom is also called a she, and a her.

Christ as God was never referred to as a she.

Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.

So, was the created christ also Sister Patience?? Was the she-christ twins or was her namesake both Madam Wisdom and Lady Patience??

Scripture is purposely written by God to make foolish them that are wise in the thinking of the world, but not in the knowing and teaching of Scripture.

You're mistaken. God is love (feminine). Jesus is called a lamb (neuter), Rev. 14:1. I'm sure that with just a little effort you can find more.

Even most (if not all) Ante-Nicene Fathers understood proverbs 8:22 - 30 as describing Christ. I believe they understood the language better than anyone today.

Also, you should know that the Septuagint (LXX) was used by these early Christians for reading the OT. The Septuagint says for Prov. 8:22 - "The Lord made/created [ektise] me the beginning of his ways for his works. He established me ... before he made the earth."

 

[Paul Christensen]

You're mistaken. God is love (feminine). Jesus is called a lamb (neuter), Rev. 14:1. I'm sure that with just a little effort you can find more.

Even most (if not all) Ante-Nicene Fathers understood proverbs 8:22 - 30 as describing Christ. I believe they understood the language better than anyone today.

Also, you should know that the Septuagint (LXX) was used by these early Christians for reading the OT. The Septuagint says for Prov. 8:22 - "The Lord made/created [ektise] me the beginning of his ways for his works. He established me ... before he made the earth."

So, you subscribe to the Arian view of Christianity?

 

[tigger 2]

So, you subscribe to the Arian view of Christianity?

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Arius believed that Jesus was created by the Father and is not equal to God (as did most of the Bishops at the Council of Nicea). I agree with that. There are some other things he believed which I don’t agree with. I also agree with the following Ante-Nicene Fathers concerning Jesus’ beginning described in Prov. 8:22, but not with necessarily everything else they wrote.

Irenaeus quoted Prov. 8

‘The Lord {“Jehovah/YHWH” in original Hebrew manuscripts} created me the beginning of His ways in His work ... before all the hills, He brought me forth ... when He made the foundations of the earth strong, I was with Him preparing [them].’ .... There is therefore one God, who by {through} the Word and Wisdom created and arranged all {other} things. - ANF 1:488.

Origen quoted Prov. 8

“‘The Lord {“Jehovah” in the ancient Hebrew Old Testament manuscripts} created me {Wisdom, ‘the only-begotten Son of God’} - the beginning {see Rev. 3:14} of His ways, and among His works, before He made any other thing; He founded me before the ages. In the beginning, before He formed the earth, before He brought forth the fountains of waters, before the mountains were made strong, before all the hills, He brought me forth.’ {Prov. 8:22-25}

“He is also styled First-born, as the apostle has declared: ‘who is the first-born of every creature.’” {Col. 1:15} - ANF 4:246, ‘De Principiis’.

Tertullian, too, like other Ante-Nicene Fathers, taught that Prov. 8:22-30 relates the words of the Son of God, Christ (speaking as “Wisdom”):

“‘At first the Lord {Jehovah} created me as the beginning of His ways, with a view to His own works, before He made the earth, before the mountains were settled; moreover, before all the hills did He beget me;’ that is to say, He created and generated me in His own intelligence.” - ANF, 3:601, ‘Against Praxeas’.

Clement of Alexandria, as with most (if not all) of the Ante-Nicene Fathers, also believed and taught that Prov. 8:22-30 presented the words of the Son of God (speaking as “Wisdom”) in his pre-human existence. He wrote:

“Wisdom, which was the first of the creation of God.” (Cf. Rev. 3:14) - ANF, 2:465, ‘The Stromata.’

Justin Martyr, also wrote that Jesus was Wisdom and quoted Prov. 8:22 - “The Lord created me the beginning of his ways for his works.” - ANF, 1:264, ‘Dialogue with Trypho’.

 

[Paul Christensen]

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Arius believed that Jesus was created by the Father and is not equal to God (as did most of the Bishops at the Council of Nicea). I agree with that. There are some other things he believed which I don’t agree with. I also agree with the following Ante-Nicene Fathers concerning Jesus’ beginning described in Prov. 8:22, but not with necessarily everything else they wrote.

Irenaeus quoted Prov. 8

‘The Lord {“Jehovah/YHWH” in original Hebrew manuscripts} created me the beginning of His ways in His work ... before all the hills, He brought me forth ... when He made the foundations of the earth strong, I was with Him preparing [them].’ .... There is therefore one God, who by {through} the Word and Wisdom created and arranged all {other} things. - ANF 1:488.

Origen quoted Prov. 8

“‘The Lord {“Jehovah” in the ancient Hebrew Old Testament manuscripts} created me {Wisdom, ‘the only-begotten Son of God’} - the beginning {see Rev. 3:14} of His ways, and among His works, before He made any other thing; He founded me before the ages. In the beginning, before He formed the earth, before He brought forth the fountains of waters, before the mountains were made strong, before all the hills, He brought me forth.’ {Prov. 8:22-25}

“He is also styled First-born, as the apostle has declared: ‘who is the first-born of every creature.’” {Col. 1:15} - ANF 4:246, ‘De Principiis’.

Tertullian, too, like other Ante-Nicene Fathers, taught that Prov. 8:22-30 relates the words of the Son of God, Christ (speaking as “Wisdom”):

“‘At first the Lord {Jehovah} created me as the beginning of His ways, with a view to His own works, before He made the earth, before the mountains were settled; moreover, before all the hills did He beget me;’ that is to say, He created and generated me in His own intelligence.” - ANF, 3:601, ‘Against Praxeas’.

Clement of Alexandria, as with most (if not all) of the Ante-Nicene Fathers, also believed and taught that Prov. 8:22-30 presented the words of the Son of God (speaking as “Wisdom”) in his pre-human existence. He wrote:

“Wisdom, which was the first of the creation of God.” (Cf. Rev. 3:14) - ANF, 2:465, ‘The Stromata.’

Justin Martyr, also wrote that Jesus was Wisdom and quoted Prov. 8:22 - “The Lord created me the beginning of his ways for his works.” - ANF, 1:264, ‘Dialogue with Trypho’.

So you go along with Mormon and JW doctrine in this as well?

 

[robert derrick]

You're mistaken. God is love (feminine). Jesus is called a lamb (neuter), Rev. 14:1. I'm sure that with just a little effort you can find more.

Even most (if not all) Ante-Nicene Fathers understood proverbs 8:22 - 30 as describing Christ. I believe they understood the language better than anyone today.

Also, you should know that the Septuagint (LXX) was used by these early Christians for reading the OT. The Septuagint says for Prov. 8:22 - "The Lord made/created [ektise] me the beginning of his ways for his works. He established me ... before he made the earth."

Scripture speaks of wisdom and of patience as a she and her, which makes the created christ from a 'personified' wisdom of proverbs 8 a she and a her.

God is love (feminine). Jesus is called a lamb (neuter).

And so rather than acknowledge the dilemma, they go to Greek casing. Incredible.

No Scripture speaks of love and charity of God being a she and her, but if anything charity is a he with brotherly kindness. (2 Peter 1)

And Christ the Lamb is not neutered!

These people are truly funny. False certainly, but definitely funny.

Even most (if not all) Ante-Nicene Fathers understood proverbs 8:22 - 30 as describing Christ. I believe they understood the language better than anyone today.

That may be, but if they believed in a created christ, and their minds worked like yours, then they were just as messed up by 'ancient language skills' to have no understanding of truth of Scripture.

"The Lord made/created [ektise] me the beginning of his ways for his works. He established me ... before he made the earth."

True, and she weren't no male Christ, and if she was ever made into a christ, it is a false she-christ, which makes perfect sense:

And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

 

[robert derrick]

Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD.

Psalms 83 is prophesying of the Lord's return in the brightness of His power to cause with fire the holes of their sockets to melt in their faces.

Who is that Lord of Lords and King of Kings riding upon the white horse with the name: The Word of God?

The risen Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:

That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth.

Jehovah, who never set the mountains of earth on fire, except one in the wilderness, is now named Jesus forever, who shall be known as the most high over the whole earth in that day of the wrath of the Lamb, when He shall set the mountains of earth and the heavens on fire, and they shall hide in the dens and the caves from His wrath.

As the God of Israel, His name alone was Jehovah, who shook the earth on Mt Sinai, but as the risen God of Israel, his name alone is Jesus, and will shake both heaven and earth together:

In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears. Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth.

There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it. He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.

And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind.

As the LORD Jehovah, this prophecy never was fulfilled, but as the the LORD and God Jesus Christ will fly upon the wings of the wind to meet with His resurrected saints in the air, and then to dome down to shake heaven and earth in His wrath:

Therefore I will shake the heavens, and the earth shall remove out of her place, in the wrath of the LORD of hosts, and in the day of his fierce anger.

Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven.

The prophesied wrath of the LORD of hosts is the prophesied and fulfilled wrath of the Lamb.

 

[robert derrick]

That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH.

His name was Jehovah when alone.

But now His name is Jesus, who is not alone, but has many brethren born of His name:

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

 

[Paul Christensen]

Scripture speaks of wisdom and of patience as a she and her, which makes the created christ from a 'personified' wisdom of proverbs 8 a she and a her.

God is love (feminine). Jesus is called a lamb (neuter).

And so rather than acknowledge the dilemma, they go to Greek casing. Incredible.

No Scripture speaks of love and charity of God being a she and her, but if anything charity is a he with brotherly kindness. (2 Peter 1)

And Christ the Lamb is not neutered!

These people are truly funny. False certainly, but definitely funny.

Even most (if not all) Ante-Nicene Fathers understood proverbs 8:22 - 30 as describing Christ. I believe they understood the language better than anyone today.

That may be, but if they believed in a created christ, and their minds worked like yours, then they were just as messed up by 'ancient language skills' to have no understanding of truth of Scripture.

"The Lord made/created [ektise] me the beginning of his ways for his works. He established me ... before he made the earth."

True, and she weren't no male Christ, and if she was ever made into a christ, it is a false she-christ, which makes perfect sense:

And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Greek gender is grammatical and does not necessarily mean human gender. So to build something on whether a noun is masculine, feminine or neuter in Greek is pretty tenuous.

Personification of a noun is a literary strategy to give greater impact for what is being said. Just because someone came up with the idea that "wisdom" in Proverbs stands for Christ, doesn't mean that it is true. And cobbling other "proof texts" to support the notion doesn't prove anything either. All it does is to show how one can make the Bible say what they want it to say. There is no evidence that Solomon, when he wrote about wisdom, that he was referring to Christ.

 

[tigger 2]

Greek gender is grammatical and does not necessarily mean human gender. So to build something on whether a noun is masculine, feminine or neuter in Greek is pretty tenuous.

Personification of a noun is a literary strategy to give greater impact for what is being said. Just because someone came up with the idea that "wisdom" in Proverbs stands for Christ, doesn't mean that it is true. And cobbling other "proof texts" to support the notion doesn't prove anything either. All it does is to show how one can make the Bible say what they want it to say. There is no evidence that Solomon, when he wrote about wisdom, that he was referring to Christ.

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It is true that the word for God (theos) in the New Testament is masculine, and masculine pronouns (“he,” “him,” “himself”) are always used with it. The word “Father” is also in the masculine gender in the original Greek of the NT, and masculine pronouns are always used with it. The word “Son” is also in the masculine gender in the NT Greek, and masculine pronouns are always used with it. Certainly this is not surprising since God (Jehovah, the Father alone) has always been represented to his people as a living, conscious being, and Christ (Jesus, the Son) is always represented as a living, conscious person. It would be very strange, indeed, if they were not so described!

But “Holy Spirit” in the original Greek is neuter (and feminine in Hebrew which has no neuter gender) and therefore the neuter pronouns meaning “it,” “itself” are used with it in the original NT Greek! Any strictly literal Bible translation would have to use “it” for the holy spirit (since it is really not a person, but God’s active force, a literal translation would be helpful in this case).

As the trinitarian New American Bible (Catholic), 1970 ed. admits:
“The Greek word for ‘spirit’ is neuter, and while we [trinitarians] use personal pronouns in English (‘he,’ ‘his,’ ‘him’), most Greek manuscripts employ ‘it.’” - New American Bible, St. Joseph ed., (footnote for John 14:17).

And the revised NAB of 1991 has actually changed “he/him” back to the literal “it”!

Also see An American Translation by trinitarians Smith & Goodspeed which uses “itself” and “it” for the holy spirit at Romans 8:16, 26, 27.

Here are the rules of Greek grammar that govern this situation. Professor Machen, writing in his New Testament Greek For Beginners, tells us:
“(II.) The noun for which a pronoun stands is called its antecedent. Thus in the sentence, ‘I see the disciple and teach him’, the antecedent of ‘him’ is ‘disciple.’
(III.) A pronoun agrees with its antecedent in GENDER and number.
“Examples: (a) Bleto ton matheten kai didasko auton, [is translated] ‘I see the disciple and teach him.’ Here matheten [‘disciple’] is the antecedent of auton [‘him’], and since matheten is of masculine gender and singular number, auton [αὐτὸν] is also masculine singular.“(b) Meno en to oiko kai ginosko auton [is rendered in English as] ‘I remain in the house and know it.’ Here oiko [‘house’] is the antecedent of auton [‘him’ in the original NT Greek] and since oiko is of masculine gender and singular number auton also is masculine singular [in the NT Greek]. In English the neuter pronoun ‘it’ is used, because the noun ‘house’ like all nouns denoting inanimate objects, is neuter in English. But in Greek the word for house is masculine, and therefore the masculine pronoun is used in referring to it. Hence the translations, ‘he,’ ‘she,’ etc... for the masculine and feminine of the Greek pronoun of the third person are correct only when the antecedents are denoting persons. In other cases, the pronouns will be neuter in English even when they are masculine or feminine in Greek.” - pp. 47-48.

In other words, even if the Greek words for ‘holy spirit’ were in the masculine gender (and, therefore, the Greek masculine pronouns would be used with it), it still would not indicate that the holy spirit must be a person! Just as in many other languages things are often given feminine and masculine genders in Bible Greek.

However, since its literal 'name' (“holy spirit”) is really neuter in the NT Greek and really uses the neuter pronoun (“it”) and takes the neuter definite article (Gr. to), there is the extremely high probability, from grammar alone, that it is not a person.

The fact that it is in the feminine gender in Hebrew, which is often used in place of a neuter gender, adds to this probability.

 

[robert derrick]

The only true God: Monos Alethinos Theos

Monos is for only and is also for alone.

The true God Jesus Christ lift up His eyes unto heaven to speak to the true God the Father, who alone was in Heaven, while the God the Son was yet on earth.

But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory.

Because he could swear by no greater, he sware by himself and ordained unto himself, before beginning the world of creation, to become Three that were One and yet are One, which is the mystery of the Godhead, which began to create the world.

The hidden wisdom of God is the swaring of God to be Three for the express purpose of creation and eternal salvation of man made in Their image: One Being God, even the Lamb of God, must die for the sins of man, which only God can do, and so One Being God must also remain alone on the throne in heaven.

That hidden wisdom ordained of God in the beginning is made know to his people through the Spirit by the Scripture: The One true God Being God became Three, that the body of the Son might become One in the Father and the Son, even as the Son and the Father and the Spirit are One and the same God.

Now therefore, there is God and the Lamb forever in the throne of Heaven.

 

[robert derrick]

That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

How is the Father honored? As God.

How is the Son to be honored? Even as the Father.

He that honors not the Son as God, neither honors the Father as God.

The created christs are born of the spirit of antichrist who hates honoring the Son as God even as the Father.

They only give lip service honor of idolatry for the name of the God of Israel, that is nevermore named in Scripture, after He was made flesh and named Jesus, which is the name above every name ever named for God, including God Almighty known by Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and Jehovah known only by Moses and the children of Israel

This honor has the Father bestowed upon the Son, and them that honor the Son even as they honor the Father: God.

 

[robert derrick]

And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them.

Created christs idolize a name for God, given by Himself to Moses, which Abraham never knew, and who now only knows the name of Jesus.

Created christs have not the faith of Abraham, nor are they the children of Abraham and of promise which is confirmed in Christ only. Not in Jehovah.

Jehovah was the name of the God of Israel of old, and Jesus is the name of the risen God of Israel forever.

Jehovah is never mentioned in the New Testament, nor in the world to come.

Jehovah witnesses witness to a name idolized for themselves, even as the unbelieving Jews, who have never repented and believed Jesus for eternal salvation, and have no part in His new covenant, and so shall have no part in the first resurrection of His church.

Except they repent of their idolatry:

And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.

Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

It may have been that they had a profession of religion but not the Holy Spirit. Oil is a figure of the Holy Spirit. The ones who are truly prepared to get to heaven are the ones who ensure that they have the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. Many people put on the Christian "badge" but don't allow the Holy Spirit to change their hearts in order to be confirmed to the image of Christ. Especially those who take grace the extreme where they ignore that the Law is just and holy and is our guide to the way we should be walking in the Spirit. This is not the Old Covenant way of having to keep the Law perfectly or else there is a curse. Redemption in Christ means that we are regenerated and converted to Christ apart from the Law, but this doesn't mean that the Law is rejected. It is the sign of a genuinely converted believer, having the Holy Spirit indwelling, that he wants to live righteously according to the Law, albeit not perfectly. In fact a person cannot develop sanctification without the indwelling Holy Spirit. So, my view of the unwise virgins is the religious person who uses the grace of God as an excuse to keep on enjoying his willful sinning as he did before "getting religion".

The righteousness of faith is genuine conversion to Christ (by grace are we saved through faith, not of ourselves, it is the gift of God; not of works lest any should boast").
The righteousness of Law is the voluntary life of righteousness by keeping the Law, which is sanctification. This righteousness is not the strict righteousness required of Abraham, Moses and David, who still needed to offer animal sacrifices for their sins. It is the righteousness that the indwelling Holy Spirit works in us of the works ordained by the Lord for us.

I mostly agree with what you're saying here, but you need to be corrected on the part about the unwise virgins. All 10 of the unwise virgins represent Laodicean Christians. The virgins who had their lamps reignited represent the Laodiceans who repent. Look at verse 5 where Christ says all 10 of them went to sleep.

In Matt 24:45-51, Jesus set this parable up by talking about Christians who decided they were going to do whatever they wanted because Jesus didn't come when they expected Him to. When you read Matt. 24:51, it sounds almost exactly like what happens to the 5 virgins who didn't reignite their lamps in Matt. 25:10-13.

 

[JohnPaul]

JESUS IS GOD !!!

Jesus is the son of God!!!!