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how would you suggest i do that

Before taking the plunge, I suggest you become aware of a few things first.

Once you're committed-- completed First Holy Communion and Confirmation
--God will be holding you accountable to comply with everything Rome
teaches and stands for: the Commandments, the Canon Law, the dogma,
the rituals, the Traditions, the Councils, the Bulls, the Encyclicals, the rites,
the holy days of obligation, and the entire Catechism; plus everything that
Jesus and the apostles taught in the New Testament, i.e. the gospels and
the epistles.

That's a lot to remember, let alone put into practice.

And then there's the matter of mortal sin. When Catholics leave this life with
just one non-absolved mortal sin on the books, just one, they go straight to
Hell. It's a direct flight; no stopover in a Purgatory. Even if a Catholic
managed to be a top performer in faith and practice for fifty years, none of
that will be taken into consideration. They will leave this life as if they'd been
a pagan the whole time. Mortal sins are that lethal.

In addition; God isn't a political appointee like the members of the US
Supreme Court, viz; He isn't biased towards the left or to the right, i.e. the
justice of God is fair across the board, so that affiliation with the Roman
church grants no one special consideration. (Rom 2:6-11, and 1Pet 1:17)
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Before taking the plunge, I suggest you become aware of a few things first.

Once you're committed-- completed First Holy Communion and Confirmation
--God will be holding you accountable to comply with everything Rome
teaches and stands for: the Commandments, the Canon Law, the dogma,
the rituals, the Traditions, the Councils, the Bulls, the Encyclicals, the rites,
the holy days of obligation, and the entire Catechism; plus everything that
Jesus and the apostles taught in the New Testament, i.e. the gospels and
the epistles.

That's a lot to remember, let alone put into practice.

And then there's the matter of mortal sin. When Catholics leave this life with
just one non-absolved mortal sin on the books, just one, they go straight to
Hell. It's a direct flight; no stopover in a Purgatory. Even if a Catholic
managed to be a top performer in faith and practice for fifty years, none of
that will be taken into consideration. They will leave this life as if they'd been
a pagan the whole time. Mortal sins are that lethal.
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matt 24:13
 

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IF i wanted to become catholic,
how would you suggest i do that
Precious friend, Only IF "God Wanted you to do that," According To Scripture,
but, First, you may want to know HIM, in a "Relationship" With HIM,
Which "HE Establishes"
{NOT Any "church or religion"}, With you! Be Blessed!:

Precious friend. God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

(1) believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS
Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The
Scriptures! (
1 Corinthians 15:3-4; cp Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5 KJB!)

Results: all sins Forgiven, Eternal Life, And, Peace With God!

(2) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE thy neighbor as thyself!"
(
Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10 KJB!)

(3) "Study" HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, for "Approval!"
(
2 Timothy 2:15 KJB!)

Eternal Results: reward, ruling, and reigning With CHRIST!
-----------------------------------------------------
PS. For the Following Reason,
I ran from the Roman religion, And, Will
NEVER "go back to it!: They "claim" that THEIR "church/tradition/magesterium"
is EQUAL to/Higher Than God's PURE And HOLY Word! But, God Says:

"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy HOLY
Name for Thy LovingKindness and for Thy TRUTH: for Thou
Hast MAGNIFIED Thy WORD Above All Thy Name!
"
( Psalms 138:2 KJB! )

Do you remember What Happened to the angel of light, Lucifer, When he
{in PRIDE} said: "I will be higher than God"?

Thus, I believe God Would Want us "to STAY AWAY from PRIDE," And
humbly serve HIM, In love of HIM, And HIS Word Of Truth! Amen?

Precious friend: Please Be Very Richly Blessed!
 

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This comment is off-topic, but I seriously think it's something that needs
saying from time to time.

Internet forums have given many of Christ's obscure followers a convenient
venue for sharing their time-won knowledge and experience with a
worldwide audience. For the world's sake, I highly recommend making an
effort to compose legible posts; neatly arranged, sensible, coherent, and
tidy.

Excessive bolding, underscoring, and italics, lack of adequate paragraphing,
twitter spelling, unnecessary emogies, horrible grammar, confusing mixtures
of fonts and colors, and/or shouting with caps and oversize letters, makes
for tiresome clutter and annoying graffiti that leave a bad impression.

Some people's posts resemble the obnoxious placards of worked-up
protesters and political activists; yelling, shrieking, and sometimes even
spraying spittle. They are beyond reason and objectivity in their desperation
to be taken seriously. Apparently they assume that if only they shout loud
enough, make themselves annoying enough, and hold out long enough;
maybe they'll get their point across and somebody will finally listen.

I rather suspect that some people regard forums as a canvas for painting
their comments instead of composing them. Well; that might be okay for
outsiders, they can be as messy as they want because their comments don't
matter anyway. But for those of us who honestly believe ourselves to be
representing God's son; it's unacceptable because it reflects on Christ and
makes him look like his followers are desperate kooks.

"Conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ." (Phil 1:27)
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I just noticed this thread . And the title . What if I wanted to become a catholic .
DONT .
Let us follow Christ is my answer . And make sure its the biblical one and not the jesus of some mans invention .
Brother… let me ask you something.
If your phone woke you up one morning, and the caller wanted to talk to you about Pope Francis, what would your response be?

And on a different phone line, if the caller wanted to talk to you about the biblical Lord Jesus and praise His name and feast on the KJV Bible, would you just not think, oh praise the Lord, I will praise the Lord with all wondrous joy.
 

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Brother… let me ask you something.
If your phone woke you up one morning, and the caller wanted to talk to you about Pope Francis, what would your response be?

And on a different phone line, if the caller wanted to talk to you about the biblical Lord Jesus and praise His name and feast on the KJV Bible, would you just not think, oh praise the Lord, I will praise the Lord with all wondrous joy.
Well , lets just say i had rather sit in a bucket of gas around a huge campfire with lots of sparks and watch concrete cure
than to hear from or be encourage to hear from POPE FRANCIS . I hope that is simple enough .
Lets not try and visualize that one . I guess a simple no to the pope would have sufficed . But sometimes
words can put a deeper feeling into the answer .
As for folks who want to read and learn that bible , That we can do all day and praise the KING while we do it .
 

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how would you suggest i do that

Quite an old post I say. If you did ant to become a Catholic you would talk to a Priest and then you would go to classes to learn about Christianity away from the brain washing some protestant evangelicalism can do. Then you will b confirmed at Easter and if you were not baptized you will be baptized at that time.
 

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Concerning todays protesantism . Yeah i dont follow those teachers either .
Everyone is getting into bed with a harlot or i should say THE HARLOT these days .
I say lets keep it simple . Learn the JESUS of the bible . Learn the doctrine of the apostels .
Learn that bible well . So simple it truly is .
 

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Well , lets just say i had rather sit in a bucket of gas around a huge campfire with lots of sparks and watch concrete cure
than to hear from or be encourage to hear from POPE FRANCIS . I hope that is simple enough .
Lets not try and visualize that one . I guess a simple no to the pope would have sufficed . But sometimes
words can put a deeper feeling into the answer .
As for folks who want to read and learn that bible , That we can do all day and praise the KING while we do it .
Learning and reading the bible. Praising our biblical Lord Jesus Christ all day long sounds glorious. Oh let the Lord be praised.
 

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want to become a full-fledged catholic? then don't follow the bible but follow whatsoever the pope says learn to pray repetitively learn to pray the rosary pray to mary while facing an idol and more much more than this you should do it the catholic way
 
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I just noticed this thread . And the title . What if I wanted to become a catholic .
DONT .
Let us follow Christ is my answer . And make sure its the biblical one and not the jesus of some mans invention .

Well , lets just say i had rather sit in a bucket of gas around a huge campfire with lots of sparks and watch concrete cure
than to hear from or be encourage to hear from POPE FRANCIS . I hope that is simple enough .
Lets not try and visualize that one . I guess a simple no to the pope would have sufficed . But sometimes
words can put a deeper feeling into the answer .
As for folks who want to read and learn that bible , That we can do all day and praise the KING while we do it .


I can see this is an old thread but would like to share this (although I am sure people here may disagree).....

The most crucial problem with the Roman Catholic Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvation. The Bible clearly and consistently states that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, grants salvation (John 1:12; 3:16,18,36; Acts 16:31; Romans 10:9-10,13; Ephesians 2:8-9). The Roman Catholic Church rejects this. The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that a person must believe in Jesus Christ AND be baptized AND receive the Eucharist along with the other sacraments AND obey the decrees of the Roman Catholic Church AND perform meritorious works AND not die with any mortal sins AND etc., etc., etc. Catholic divergence from the Bible on this most crucial of issues, salvation, means that yes, Catholicism is a false religion. If a person believes what the Catholic Church officially teaches, he/she will not be saved. Any claim that works or rituals must be added to faith in order for salvation to be achieved is a claim that Jesus’ death was not sufficient to fully purchase our salvation.

While salvation by faith is the most crucial issue, in comparing Roman Catholicism with the Word of God, there are many other differences and contradictions as well. The Roman Catholic Church teaches many doctrines that are in disagreement with what the Bible declares. These include apostolic succession, worship of saints or Mary, prayer to saints or Mary, the pope / papacy, infant baptism, transubstantiation, plenary indulgences, the sacramental system, and purgatory. While Catholics claim Scriptural support for these concepts, none of these teachings have any solid foundation in the clear teaching of Scripture. These concepts are based on Catholic tradition, not the Word of God. In fact, they all clearly contradict Biblical principles.

In regards to the question “Are Catholics saved?”, this is a more difficult question to answer. It is impossible to give a universal statement on the salvation of all members of any denomination of Christianity. Not ALL Baptists are saved. Not ALL Presbyterians are saved. Not ALL Lutherans are saved. Salvation is determined by personal faith in Jesus alone for salvation, not by titles or denominational identification. Despite the unbiblical beliefs and practices of the Roman Catholic Church, there are genuine believers who attend Roman Catholic churches. There are many Roman Catholics who have genuinely placed their faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. However, these Catholic Christians are believers despite what the Catholic Church teaches, not because of what it teaches. To varying degrees, the Catholic Church teaches from the Bible and points people to Jesus Christ as the Savior. As a result, people are sometimes saved in Catholic churches. The Bible has an impact whenever it is proclaimed (Isaiah 55:11). Catholic Christians remain in the Catholic Church out of ignorance of what the Catholic Church truly stands for, out of family tradition and peer pressure, or out of a desire to reach other Catholics for Christ.

At the same time, the Catholic Church also leads many people away from a genuine faith relationship with Christ. The unbiblical beliefs and practices of the Roman Catholic Church have often given the enemies of Christ opportunity to blaspheme. The Roman Catholic Church is not the church that Jesus Christ established. It is not a church that is based on the teachings of the Apostles (as described in the Book of Acts and the New Testament epistles). While Jesus’ words in Mark 7:9 were directed towards the Pharisees, they accurately describe the Roman Catholic Church, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!”
 

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I can see this is an old thread but would like to share this (although I am sure people here may disagree).....

The most crucial problem with the Roman Catholic Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvation. The Bible clearly and consistently states that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, grants salvation (John 1:12; 3:16,18,36; Acts 16:31; Romans 10:9-10,13; Ephesians 2:8-9). The Roman Catholic Church rejects this. The official position of the Roman Catholic Church is that a person must believe in Jesus Christ AND be baptized AND receive the Eucharist along with the other sacraments AND obey the decrees of the Roman Catholic Church AND perform meritorious works AND not die with any mortal sins AND etc., etc., etc. Catholic divergence from the Bible on this most crucial of issues, salvation, means that yes, Catholicism is a false religion. If a person believes what the Catholic Church officially teaches, he/she will not be saved. Any claim that works or rituals must be added to faith in order for salvation to be achieved is a claim that Jesus’ death was not sufficient to fully purchase our salvation.

While salvation by faith is the most crucial issue, in comparing Roman Catholicism with the Word of God, there are many other differences and contradictions as well. The Roman Catholic Church teaches many doctrines that are in disagreement with what the Bible declares. These include apostolic succession, worship of saints or Mary, prayer to saints or Mary, the pope / papacy, infant baptism, transubstantiation, plenary indulgences, the sacramental system, and purgatory. While Catholics claim Scriptural support for these concepts, none of these teachings have any solid foundation in the clear teaching of Scripture. These concepts are based on Catholic tradition, not the Word of God. In fact, they all clearly contradict Biblical principles.

In regards to the question “Are Catholics saved?”, this is a more difficult question to answer. It is impossible to give a universal statement on the salvation of all members of any denomination of Christianity. Not ALL Baptists are saved. Not ALL Presbyterians are saved. Not ALL Lutherans are saved. Salvation is determined by personal faith in Jesus alone for salvation, not by titles or denominational identification. Despite the unbiblical beliefs and practices of the Roman Catholic Church, there are genuine believers who attend Roman Catholic churches. There are many Roman Catholics who have genuinely placed their faith in Jesus Christ alone for salvation. However, these Catholic Christians are believers despite what the Catholic Church teaches, not because of what it teaches. To varying degrees, the Catholic Church teaches from the Bible and points people to Jesus Christ as the Savior. As a result, people are sometimes saved in Catholic churches. The Bible has an impact whenever it is proclaimed (Isaiah 55:11). Catholic Christians remain in the Catholic Church out of ignorance of what the Catholic Church truly stands for, out of family tradition and peer pressure, or out of a desire to reach other Catholics for Christ.

At the same time, the Catholic Church also leads many people away from a genuine faith relationship with Christ. The unbiblical beliefs and practices of the Roman Catholic Church have often given the enemies of Christ opportunity to blaspheme. The Roman Catholic Church is not the church that Jesus Christ established. It is not a church that is based on the teachings of the Apostles (as described in the Book of Acts and the New Testament epistles). While Jesus’ words in Mark 7:9 were directed towards the Pharisees, they accurately describe the Roman Catholic Church, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe your own traditions!”
If you didn't feel so inferior to Catholicism, you would have no need to bash it with this list of baseless insults.
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Trolls are not interested, nor are they capable, of meaningful dialogue; just lies and insults. There is nothing "Christian" about that, but don't worry, the moderators are on your side. They can't, or won't, enforce their own rules when it comes to airhead bashing of Catholicism.
 
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Catholicism is not only Christian -- it is far superior to Protestantism on biblical, historical, and rational grounds. Secondly, I would say that a position maintaining that Protestantism is Christian while Catholicism is not, is self-defeating, incoherent, and intellectually dishonest, if thought through properly (which is rarely the case). I never had this outlook as a Protestant for these very reasons.

Among the many insuperable difficulties of anti-Catholicism:

1) The Canon of the Bible was determined by the Catholic Church. Thus, "sola Scriptura" necessarily requires a Tradition and Catholic (conciliar and papal) Authority. Not to mention the preservation of Bible manuscripts by monks.

2) At what moment did Catholicism become apostate? At John's death? In 313? With Gregory the Great and the ascendancy of papal power? In the "Dark Ages" of c.800-1100? With the Inquisition or Crusades? Or at the Council of Trent? And how can anyone know for sure when?

3) 23,000 denominations and the scandalous organizational anarchy, schism, and theological relativism inherent therein virtually disproves Protestantism in and of itself.

4) Protestantism has only been around for 477 years!

5) If the Inquisition disproves Catholicism, then the Witch Hunts and killings of Anabaptists, the suppression of the Peasants' Revolt, and early Protestantism's horrendous record of intolerance (at least as bad as Catholicism's by any criterion) disproves Protestantism as well.

6) Protestantism inconsistently and dishonestly appeals to indisputably Catholic Church Fathers such as St. Auqustine (above all) St. John Chrysostom, St. Jerome, St. Ignatius, St. Irenaeus, St. Justin Martyr (also, later Catholics such as St. Francis, St. Thomas Aquinas, and Thomas a Kempis).

7) Likewise, it inconsistently appeals to Church Councils which it likes (generally the first four) and ignores the rest, on questionable theological and ecclesiological grounds. Development of doctrine is accepted to an extent, and then incoherently rejected. This is largely what made me a Catholic, after reading Newman's Development of Doctrine.

8) Funny how an "apostate" Church has uniquely preserved traditional Christian morality such as the indissolubility of marriage, gender roles, the prohibition of contraception, euthanasia, infanticide, abortion, etc., while Protestantism is compromising these with frightening rapidity.

"Sola fide" is not the gospel. If so, then there wasn't a gospel to speak of for 1500-odd years, since "sola fide" was a radically novel and unbiblical interpretation of justification and sanctification. The God I serve is greater than that-- His hands weren't tied until Dr. Luther figured everything out! Related to this is the slanderous assertion that Catholics are Pelagian or semi-Pelagian and believe in salvation by works. Nothing could be further from the truth. We merely refuse to separate works from faith in a dichotomous relationship as Luther did (which is why he wanted to throw out James-- so clear was its Catholic teaching). Catholicism condemned Pelagianism at the 2nd Council of Orange in 529 A.D., almost 1000 years before Luther. The very first Canon on Justification in the Council of Trent states:

"If anyone saith that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature or that of the law, without the grace of God through Jesus Christ; let him be anathema."​

This would seem to be sufficient to put the matter to rest. But blind prejudice and anti-Catholicism stubbornly persist.

Dave Armstrong Debates James White (1995) : Is Catholicism Christian?
 
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