What a load of garbage!
How do you think yourself qualified to PREACH what an other believes?
DO you think YOU ARE SAVED?....IF SO, WHY?
"Salvation" is the gift of Eternal Life - it's FOREVER.
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What a load of garbage!
How do you think yourself qualified to PREACH what an other believes?
DO you think YOU ARE SAVED?....IF SO, WHY?
Eternally Grateful
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Hebrews was WRITTEN to the hebrew people.
It is applicable to all people. But you must take it in context.
He was not calling them brothers and sisters as fellow believers, but as fellow countrymen and women
Eternally Grateful
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That is not correct
we can not be saved by works PERIOD.
if we could. Christ would never have had to die.
Eternally Grateful
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18 Little children, it is the last hour; and as you have heard that the Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come, by which we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.
Not sure what your reading. But it is quite clear that non of these people we a part of us.
The parable of the sower sheds further light about those who have no root in them...
“US” is together with people WHO BELIEVE.
Believing does not mean SAVED.
Believing means BELIEVING and people can stop believing and no longer be with people who ARE BELIEVING.
@Taken I reckon there is a distinction between professing and truly believing with the heart.
Eternally Grateful
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John also says we can know we have eternal life.
If we can know we have eternal life. we know we are forgiven of God
There is a HUGE difference between saying....I believe, I believe, I have faith, I have faith, blah, blah, blah.....I, I, I, I,....blah, blah, blah....
AND...what you DO with that Belief, what you DO with that Faith....roll in around in your mouth, blurt it out, carry it around like a trophy....irrelevant!
If a person DOES NOTHING with their BELIEF, their GIFT of FAITH....
It’s like saying I have food, I have food, see, see, And putting food in their mouth and being to ignorant to swallow it, eat it.
Eternally Grateful
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then you do not believe in eternal security.
You believe you are secure as long as YOU.......
if YOU.......
(Insert whatever CONDITION you believe can cause a loss of salvation for the ........ Different people believe different ways in which salvation can be lost. )
then you believe your salvation is lost.
This is called conditional life.
God gives eternal life. and John says we can know we have it
Eternally Grateful
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Um no
Because they NEVER BELIEVED IN GOD's true plan of salvation. They believed they were made right by the law.
Eternally Grateful
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mailmandan
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Practicing lawlessness is descriptive of children of the devil and not children of God. (1 John 3:10) The demons believe in Christ in the same way that these many people in Matthew 7:22-23 believed in Christ with their head and not their heart. Romans 10:10 says it's with the heart that one believes unto righteousness. It's one thing to believe in your head "mental assent" that Christ exists and that His death, burial and resurrection "happened" and yet another thing to trust in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. (Romans 1:16; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
Matthew 7:21 - Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
John 6:40 - For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.
These many people (unbelievers) in Matthew 7:22 had the wrong foundation. They were trusting in their works to save them and NOT IN CHRIST ALONE. Jesus never knew them which means they were never saved. Their hearts were not right with God, so their "attempted external obedience" (apart from the righteousness of God which is by faith and the blood of Christ) was stained with sin.
John 17:3 - And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. The term "know" implies intimate, experiential knowledge, through a relationship with Him, not merely theoretical knowledge. These many people in Matthew 7:22-23 were not true converts.
Eternally Grateful
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Jesus taught eternal life not conditional life
He taught those who believed in him would never hunger, never thirst, Never die, they would live forever, and they are assured they would be risen by him (not delivered to him)
Paul taught we are saved, in fact not only saved, given EVERY blessing under heaven, Our salvation has the seal of the spirit until resurrection day, and that we are washed sanctified and justified.
John taught we have eternal life. and this knowledge is the means by which we keep believing
So it was taught in scripture. Just because the roman church crushed every thought of this basic gospel teaching for years. does not mean it was not taught.
Stop looking at history, listening to me, and look to the word is my suggestion. I beg of you to do this.
