A person only needs to learn obedience when they are disobedient.lol
I person only needs 5to learn obedience when they are disobedient.
Christ never sinned a day in his life. Because he KNEW how to be obedient. He NEVER sought to serve self. He NEVER put his needs own others, and he NEVER took his eye off what is important. To love others.
Jesus was born able to love. We can’t love, because we are born lost. In the flesh having to do whatever we can do fill the hole left by the fall. Jesus had his fathers love from birth. So had had the ability to love
We can’t love UNTIL we are first loved by him (through salvation) so we have no capacity to be obedient servants.
Anyone can obey a command, But only those born of God can be obedient.
You need to take your focus off self man, and put it n Christ. And stop blaming people who put their focus on christ for making you look bad because you refuse to acknowledge your sin, while they in humility look up to God in faith and with the knowledge of where they belong. Serve God in love
Any day we wake up and we are not in hell is a great day, Because that is where we deserve to be.
You're saying Jesus was disobedient when He learned obedience?
Obviously the god blind to sins also makes one blind to certain Scriptures that rebuke sins. Which makes perfect sense.
Christ never sinned a day in his life.
True, but the blind god also makes people contradict themselves. First Jesus had to be disobedient in order to learn obedience, and now He never sinned in disobedience? That makes no sense.
Because he KNEW how to be obedient. Any day we wake up and we are not in hell is a great day, Because that is where we deserve to be.
Spoken like a true sinner indeed. Unrepentant to the end, and glad not to be in hell, yet.
You plainly need to learn how to obey God, because God's people neither deserve hell, nor are they appointed to His wrath for judgment of sins.
The modern fetish in the Christian religion of loudly proclaiming how sinful they are and deserving of hell, makes less sense than anything else so far. Unless, we realize they are looking to a blind god that cannot actually see all those sins they brag about. Which does make perfect sense.
And he NEVER took his eye off what is important. To love others.
And so we see the true effect of blind grace that produces double minded people: they skip right over loving God with all the heart, mind, and strength, and go right to showing God how to 'love' people according to their own moral compass of self-righteousness.
There is no new creature in Christ Jesus, until after all dead works are repented of and the old man is wholly crucified and circumcised from a pure heart of the obedient faith of Jesus.
We can’t love UNTIL we are first loved by him (through salvation) so we have no capacity to be obedient servants.
Jesus first loved all mankind by coming down from heaven to be made flesh, and by not coming down off the cross when they mocked Him to do so. Now, He specially loves them that love Him by obeying Him for eternal salvation. However, He does not love it at all when anyone hypocritically calls upon His grace to sin and disobey Him some more, without judgment for their sinful deeds.
Anyone can obey a command, But only those born of God can be obedient.
??? Is this honestly the kind of grade school stuff OSAS preaches and teaches for adult wisdom of God??? Honestly, I truly would rather attend a Catholic church service before getting within 5 miles of this kind of dribble.
Anyone can obey a commandment of God, but only those born of God can be obedient to God...impressive. The sophists of old would be delighted.
Well, since OSAS is full of sinners like the rest of the world, deserving so much hell, then I guess it does sort of make a self-imploding kind of sense.
You need to take your focus off self man, and put it in Christ.
My focus certainly isn't on being a self-made 'good' sinner.
I don't put my 'focus' in Christ, but rather my soul, heart, mind, and body, which therefore must keep my 'focus' off sinning. Especially not to try and show how 'humbly thankful' I am not to be in hell, yet.
you look bad because you refuse to acknowledge your sin.
Ha!! I knew it!! Like the most-loving companions of Job, OSAS demands all Christians acknowledge they are sinners, just like everyone else in the world!!! Beautiful! Acknowledging being a sinner for life absolutely is the rite of passage to the OSAS kingdom for the blind. That statement is going right to the top of the list for the errors of OSAS. Just let people talk enough, and sooner or later, their own words will prove what they are really all about.
So to not 'look bad' to OSAS, woe is me, I must repent of righteousness and blameless living in Christ, and return to my former sins, so that I can acknowledge them to my most-loving OSAS kindred.
Uh. I don't think so. Having read all the things that OSAS must actually deliver in their 'Bible' studies and sermons, I would choke myself to death between fits of revulsion and laughter. Which wouldn't even be worth the graduation diploma to go and sin more.
I'd say looking bad to OSAS looks pretty good to God.
while they in humility look up to God in faith and with the knowledge of where they belong.
By your own words and OSAS doctrine, that would be in sins and hell.
If you weren't in such danger of hellfire, I'd say you people are a real hoot. I'm thinking the best thing you can do for your soul is to just repent of your sins and get it over with, and go on to perfection in righteousness, peace, and joy of the Holy Ghost. 'Celebrating' blind grace may sound fun, and I'm sure it probably looks real cute when the preach calls upon happy demonstration of it in service, but it doesn't hold a candle to rejoicing in the Lord always.
Honestly and sincerely. If you'd just look to the power of being born of God's perfect seed, to repent of all your sins and learn to obey Him in all things, as Jesus did, then you'd see the truth of God's grace to help overcome all temptation and sins of the world, as Jesus did. And you would stop arguing against full obedience to Him and His faith, and begin earnestly proclaiming it as necessary for His eternal salvation.