The 10 Commandments are FOREVER

[dad]

Matthew 5:19KJV
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Do you keep all the law all the time or not, yes or no?

 

[Hidden In Him]

But you have to understand how it works. Their months start on the New Moon...No Moon....so the 15th of the month is the Full Moon, every Hebrew month...But....the days of the week do not reset at the beginning of the New Moon, at the beginning of the month. If the last day of the month is a Monday....the next the beginning of the Lunar month is a Tuesday.

Hello, Grail.

Not sure quite what you're trying to tell me here. They don't really go by "Mondays" and "Tuesdays" like we do. When it comes to days of the month, they just go by the number, i.e. "30th of Sh'vat, 1st of Adar I, 2nd of Adar I, 3rd of Adar I," etc.

Days and Weeks
The Jewish day begins at sunset. The status of the period between sunset (the disappearance of the sun behind the horizon) and nightfall (the emergence of three medium-sized stars) is doubtful. For some purposes, it is treated as part of the previous day, e.g. at the end of Shabbat, when the prohibition of creative activities (melacha) remains in force until nightfall.

Books and computer programs for conversions between the Jewish and Gregorian (civil) calendars are based on the daylight portion of the Jewish day. For instance, if you know that one of your ancestors was born on 26 Nissan 5580, you will find that this corresponds to 10 April 1820 — but the actual birthday may have been the previous day, 9 April 1820, in the evening.

With the exception of the Shabbat, the weekdays have no names. They are simply numbered:

alef yom rishon = "first day" = (Sunday)
bet yom sheni = "second day" = (Monday)
gimel yom sh'lishi = "third day" = (Tuesday)
dalet yom revi'i = "fourth day" = (Wednesday)
he yom chamishi = "fifth day" = (Thursday)
vav yom shishi = "sixth day" = (Friday)
The week culminates in the seventh day, the Holy Shabbat (shabbat kodesh, abbreviated sh''q).
Introduction to Jewish Calendar

 

[Grailhunter]

Hello, Grail.

Not sure quite what you're trying to tell me here. They don't really go by "Mondays" and "Tuesdays" like we do. When it comes to days of the month, they just go by the number, i.e. "30th of Sh'vat, 1st of Adar I, 2nd of Adar I, 3rd of Adar I," etc.

Days and Weeks
The Jewish day begins at sunset. The status of the period between sunset (the disappearance of the sun behind the horizon) and nightfall (the emergence of three medium-sized stars) is doubtful. For some purposes, it is treated as part of the previous day, e.g. at the end of Shabbat, when the prohibition of creative activities (melacha) remains in force until nightfall.

Books and computer programs for conversions between the Jewish and Gregorian (civil) calendars are based on the daylight portion of the Jewish day. For instance, if you know that one of your ancestors was born on 26 Nissan 5580, you will find that this corresponds to 10 April 1820 — but the actual birthday may have been the previous day, 9 April 1820, in the evening.

With the exception of the Shabbat, the weekdays have no names. They are simply numbered:

alef yom rishon = "first day" = (Sunday)
bet yom sheni = "second day" = (Monday)
gimel yom sh'lishi = "third day" = (Tuesday)
dalet yom revi'i = "fourth day" = (Wednesday)
he yom chamishi = "fifth day" = (Thursday)
vav yom shishi = "sixth day" = (Friday)
The week culminates in the seventh day, the Holy Shabbat (shabbat kodesh, abbreviated sh''q).
Introduction to Jewish Calendar

Don't let it confuse you. Our days of the week are named after Greco-Roman gods....of course the Hebrew is going to call them something different....any surprise! Still seven days that do not reset at the beginning of the Hebrew month...

Our days begin with the sun...morning. Cycles through midnight. Christ rose in the morning.
The Hebrew days cycled from dusk to dusk.
And yes we can calculate Hebrew dates.
So your point with having trouble knowing what day the sabbath is?
Our understanding what the 10 summary of laws in chapter 20 are about.

 

[Oceanprayers]

Gen 13:
[13] ...Abram the Hebrew...

Abraham was a Gentile.
"Jews" didn't appear until Abraham's great grandson Judah had children.
YOU ARE ISRAEL: Abraham the Gentile

 

[Oceanprayers]

When did the Hebrews or Israelites become known as Jews?

 

[Oceanprayers]

God’s covenant with Abraham was to be a father of many nations not just one. Read Paul and you’ll see this.

My reply was to make an observation regarding Abraham being a Gentile .

Read a few posts back and you'll see this.

 

[BarneyFife]

So do you think the bible teaches that men have kept the ten commandments?

1 Kings 3:14 KJV: And if thou wilt walk in my ways, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as thy father David did walk, then I will lengthen thy days.

Evidently (right from God's heart), you don't have to be without a history of faults to be considered a keeper of His commandments.

One assumes that anyone claiming we need to must keep them themselves.

This personal stuff really just clouds the issues. I'm a seed sower. I just testify to what is written.

We must note that you did not answer the question you were asked. I wonder why?

You have fun, now, playing your silly games.

 

[Oceanprayers]

Well, I keep them. So do many others who truly love the Lord.

Stop being a Pharisee and challenging people's ability to keep them. All one must do is decide at a heart/soul level to make them a daily part of their lives. James 3:2 has us covered on any unforeseen, unintentional slip.

Stop trying so hard to make people not obey God Almighty. If you choose to live in disobedience to God, keep that decision to yourself. Don't work to drag others down into the pit along with you.

You will have plenty of company down there; you will not be lonely.

Jesus is God. These are things God has said concerning His Commandments.
Deuteronomy 5:10
Deuteronomy 5:29
John 14:15
John 14:21
John 15:10
*Revelation 12:17*
Revelation 14:12
Revelation 22:14

Here's a question for you, dad:

Why does the dragon have furious hatred for those who keep the Commandments of God? Aren't they going to be with him in hell for living wrong?

Seriously, when someone insists the 10 commandments that describe sins and admonish right behavior to the contrary are done away, believe them.

 

[BarneyFife]

Do you keep all the law all the time or not, yes or no?

False dilemma - Wikipedia

 

[quietthinker]

Seriously, when someone insists the 10 commandments that describe sins and admonish right behavior to the contrary are done away, believe them.

did you know that loving is a far higher bar than law?
I can be proud of never having committed adultery but can have an abysmal marriage
I can boast of never having murdered anyone to the approval of all but in my mind and emotions have slain many.
I can be proud of never having robbed an old lady or a child but do I do a slippery work with the tax man
I can be proud of being a believer in Jesus while condemning those who aren't or who don't see it as I do

Need I go on?

 

[dad]

1 Kings 3:14 KJV: And if thou wilt walk in my ways, to keep my statutes and my commandments, as thy father David did walk, then I will lengthen thy days.

Evidently (right from God's heart), you don't have to be without a history of faults to be considered a keeper of His commandments.

Sorry if you thought David (of all people) kept all the commandments!!

This personal stuff really just clouds the issues. I'm a seed sower. I just testify to what is written.

How about answer the question honestly. Do you keep all the commandments all the time, yes or no?

We wait Barny.

 

[dad]

False dilemma - Wikipedia

Be honest. Be brave. Answer the simple question, do you keep all the commandments all the time yes or no? As you know, he that breaks one breaks all.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Says who? Not the bible. Here are the verses

1 Co 3
1 Corinthians 3:11
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:12
Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

The building of God is Christ, the apostles and prophets, and all us individual believers:

"5you also, like living stones, are being built into a spiritual house " 1 Peter 2:5

"...members of God’s household, 20built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus Himself as the cornerstone. 21In Him the whole building is fitted together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord." Ephesians 2:19-21

“Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.”10A...the holy city of Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, 11shining with the glory of God. Its radiance was like a most precious jewel, like a jasper, as clear as crystal." Revelation 21:9-11
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Now read the 1 Corinthians 3 passage...

"9For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, God’s building.
10By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as an expert builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one must be careful how he builds. 11For no one can lay a foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.12If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, or straw, 13his workmanship will be evident, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will prove the quality of each man’s work. 14If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward. 15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss. He himself will be saved, but only as if through the flames." 1 Corinthians 3:9-15
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The worker in God's building must be careful how he builds, adding living stones to the foundation of God's household, Jesus Christ. Because there's no reward for adding stones (people) to the building of God that don't make it through the coming judgment of fire. That's because the reward is the people you add to the building of God. If the worker is lazy, or has a defective gospel, or whatever the reason, and is only successful in producing fake 'hay and stubble' believers who don't make it to the end he himself may be saved but he will have brought no one with him to be his reward on the other side.

19After all, who is our hope, our joy, our crown of boasting, if it is not you yourselves in the presence of our Lord Jesus at His coming? 20You are indeed our glory and our joy." 1 Thessalonians 2:19-20
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So build the house and building of God in such a way that you receive a reward for your labor.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Be honest. Be brave. Answer the simple question, do you keep all the commandments all the time yes or no? As you know, he that breaks one breaks all.

They believe in the blood of Christ for the forgiveness of sin. I don't think they advocate sinless, perfect law keeping. The blood of Christ is there for their next sin just like it is for ours.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Matthew 5:19KJV
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

...until the fulfillment occurs.

The fulfilment has occurred.
We know that by the simple fact that the law of animal sacrifice for sin has 'disappeared' from the law.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Lurkers, this poster was asked several times to state whether they keep all the law all the time or not, yes or no

We wait.

If I recall correctly, someone gave you a very good answer to this.

 

[Ferris Bueller]

Lol.

Finally I have some initials to go by.

"So what denomination are you again?"
"I'm a card-carrying JA, and don't you forget it."

ROFLOL, I didn't think anyone would get it!

 

[Ferris Bueller]

The church was established on Sabbath observance, yes Paul and Barnabas observed church on the Sabbath, and they admonished the early church to continue in this grace of Sabbath observance

Yes they met on the Sabbath, no it wasn't Sunday, yes they were new converts proselytes, yes this was the early Church

Merriam-Webster
Definition of proselyte
: a new convert (as to a faith or cause)

Acts 13:42-44KJV
42 And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next sabbath.
43 Now when the congregation was broken up, many of the Jews and religious proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas: who, speaking to them, persuaded them to continue in the grace of God.
44 And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of God.

This argument doesn't prove anything.
What other day of the week would Paul find Jews gathered together to preach the gospel too?

 

[Ferris Bueller]

So do you think the bible teaches that men have kept the ten commandments? One assumes that anyone claiming we need to must keep them themselves. We must note that you did not answer the question you were asked. I wonder why?

The 10 commandments are the marker God has set before man to keep, and if one sins they have an advocate with the father Jesus Christ the righteous

1 John 2:1KJV
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

His answer is the right one. ↑↑↑

 

[quietthinker]

Be honest. Be brave. Answer the simple question, do you keep all the commandments all the time yes or no? As you know, he that breaks one breaks all.

isn't it interesting how we try to jamb each other in a corner so we can have ammunition for the next round?