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Yeah!
No need for all that.
You didn't answer my question either, so we're even.
"Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing, but keeping the commandments of God is what matters." - 1 Cor. 7:19
Man, you are such a hypocrite. You accuse me of supposedly taking passages out of context, and yet you're blatantly doing it yourself. Not only are you incorrectly using this Galatians passage in an attempt to argue against commandment-keeping, you don't even realize what "law" Paul is even referring to here. Matter of fact, nobody was even arguing that God's commandments or other laws should be kept to acquire forgiveness, so how could you possibly reach the conclusion that i said that they could forgive someone?
Right.
Ironically, that's exactly what you're doing in your denial of God's 10 Commandments.
The atheist doesn't believe in Satan either. They don't believe God is apparent in all of nature and all in nature is therefore proof God exists.
Yeah, that's what we need to do. Get to know ATHEISTS better.
Your doctrine is all over the place. The fact is that you really don't have a rock-solid doctrine, you just bob and weave to avoid being cornered on a particular point.
Revelation 8 is not an Asteroid. It already took place with the Chernobyl event many years ago. Many facts of the event match the scripture perfectly. Right down to the name of the facility Chernobyl = Wormwood.
Mahhh, I chill...at home, at the beach and with whoever wants to join me. Sometimes I'll visit or take the bike out. The last months I've been joining in here, a study; runs for 90 minutes. A handful of people, straight shooters and no frills....please come in and participate.
The disciples who walked with Jesus stopped preparing His body for burial to observe the Sabbath.
It seems to me that the veil is what those people wear on their hearts that don't see that the 10 Commandments were always valid and never repealed by God or any scripture.
What does the term 'Christian' mean, Rob?The disciples who walked with Jesus stopped preparing His body for burial to observe the Sabbath.
So, you see how once you go back to the time of the OT and the law of Moses, then you lose all credibility for teaching law of Christ in the NT.
Using disciples of the Jews still trying to keep the law of Moses, is no way to try and teach example of the apostles to all Christians in the NT.
Christ's OT ended and His NT began with Jesus' resurrection from the dead.
Ironically, that's exactly what you're doing in your denial of God's 10 Commandments.
I deny the Sabbath is Christ's commandment to His people. The other 9 are written in His doctrine by His apostles, after His resurrection, which is when His Old Covenant ended with His law to Moses, and His New Covenant began with His law to His apostles.
You are embracing the popular traditions of men. Casting aside what the scripture actually teaches.
I embrace the common salvation of Jesus Christ by His faith in His Scriptures of the NT, casting aside any other teaching of men, whether popular or not. You embrace something you said was really popular among disciples int he early centuries A.D. Which of course is never written as commandment of Jesus in their Scriptures.
Which is obvious, because you can't quote one where we are commanded to keep the Sabbath day, even as we are commanded to honor our mother and father:
Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise
Scripture says this is the first commandment with promise, which in the OT was after that of the Sabbath. The law of the Sabbath only brought death if transgressed. There was no promise gained for doing so in this life, nor in the next.
Paul was a keeper of all of the 10 Commandments long after Jesus' crucifixion.
Paul was a keeper of the great commandments of Christ, as well as 9 other listed comman dments in the Scripture of the apostles.
Paul also went where the Jews were gathered together on their Sabbath days to preach the gospel of Jesus, and he was allowed to join them as a Jew.
After shaking his garment at them, to finally go only to the Gentiles, as Jesus commanded him long before, we read no more of Paul going to the Jews on their Sabbath day, nor of Paul doing keeping any Sabbath day.
To this day, the Jews' religion is now only of the Jews, and not of Jesus Christ, whom they crucified and have not repented. It includes the Jews Sabbath, the Jews feast of tabernacles, the Jews outward circumcision on the 8th day, etc...None of which is honored of God and is counted for unbelief in His dear Son.
He and Barnabas observed the Sabbath, and taught in the synagogues on that day ONLY. NOT on Sunday.
See above on why they were there. Also, Paul preached on any day the gospel of Christ, whensoever a door of opportunity was opened unto Him by the Lord, which many times was daily.
Emperor Constantine changed the Sabbath day to Sunday.
He could do whatever he wanted in religion of the state. Neither Christ nor any Christian should care. I don't care what day someone wants to keep a day of worship and rest, so long as they aren't trying to make it as by law.,and so become lawgivers about it and false judges of others. (James 4)
But this thread is about the 10 Commandments.
Which is not true, but is a disingenuous door for your law.
This thread is only about your Sabbath commandment. I could probably look through all the threads, and rarely see any other of the commandments discussed in any manner. I have done so here to show how the commandment to honor mother and father is written for us to obey as commanded by Christ.
If this were about the Ten Commandments written on stone at Sinai, then no doubt you would have written and discussed them all. i don't see them on your first thread at all. Have you listed and written about them anywhere else?
I do enjoy a good dispute in the Scriptures, which is what the apostles and Apollos was known for, being mighty in the Scriptures, so long as I am disputing with someone credibly responding to points made. You appear to be doing so.
So, here is a simple test of your veracity to answer honestly to specific points made:
I challenged the Sabbath commanders on another thread, about how they must eliminate themselves from having any career, duty, or service that would compel working on their special Sabbath day, whichever day that is for them.
And so, they cannot be: military. Police. Firefighter, Politician, Emergency healthcare, emergency service providers of any sort, corporate managers and executives, pro-sports, home delivery drivers, truckers, etc...
Sabbath keepers by law can only do work of self-employment, or labor that requires no work on their sabbath day.
They can't even volunteer without pay on their Sabbath day, because work is work is work.
You know what they told me?
They get 'special' exemption for 'emergency work. And, some of them even 'donate their pay' to their 'favorite charities', when they Do WORK on their Sabbath day.
And so we see how only commandments of men are given 'special exemptions', because such law of men are not real law at all.
God's law has no exemptions: a fornicator is a fornicator is a fornicator.
And if the law of Christ still commanded Sabbath day keeping, then a worker is a worker is a worker, and any Christian doing any of their work, job, career, etc... on the Sabbath day is become a fornicator to God, because transgressing any point of law is to transgress all. (James 2)
So, what say you? You got special dispensations for your fellow Sabbath commanders to do their work on your Sabbath day?
Are they 'forgiven' for doing so, if they are commanded to do so, in order to keep their jobs or careers?
Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.
