When we see things BEGIN to happen -Rapture

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We know He reigns. So how do you dispose of the 1000 years? Wave it away as unreal? Claim it was in history already? or..do you just colour big letters that say the word of God as if there is some sort of association with your denial of Scripture and accusing of the saints?

PM#620 Sunday at 12:32 whoso read, let him understand.
 

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The idolaters will never understand the Word of GOD. By the way, except a man be born of water-the Word of GOD- and of the Spirit -GOD is Spirit, the Word is GOD - he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

We know all that. Try to post things, verses included that somehow relate to the topic here. Your spamming has gotten to an unhealthy level.

Although you know that, yet idolatry remains in your heart. GOD says by His Word that " no man who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and of God -Eph.5:v.5.
 

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PM#620 Sunday at 12:32 whoso read, let him understand.
From that post you said this


'1.000 years? That is the SEVENTH AND LAST DAY OR SEVENTH AND LAST MILLENNIUM...'

So what does this mean? The last 1000 years? A single day? or..? Let him who postest understand what he posts and be clear.
 

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Although you know that, yet idolatry remains in your heart. GOD says by His Word that " no man who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the Kingdom of Christ and of God -Eph.5:v.5.
Should we guess what our idols are supposed to be here? Is it that we see that your position is not scriptural?
 

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You are saying then that there is no actual 1000 years as the bible says, correct?

They don't know their own doctrine very well. All Amillennialists believe in a thousand years on the Earth. They believe it's happening now and has been for a long time. They believe Christ rules the Earth from heaven with the dead saints, and living saints are ruling with Christ now upon the Earth. They aren't ruling at all, it's 100 percent imaginary and Christ is also not ruling the Earth. Wicked men rule this world helped by satan whether they realize it or not. Christ will return and literally rule, a real rule, over the people of this world. We are still waiting for that glorious day.
 

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They don't know their own doctrine very well. All Amillennialists believe in a thousand years on the Earth. They believe it's happening now and has been for a long time. They believe Christ rules the Earth from heaven with the dead saints, and living saints are ruling with Christ now upon the Earth. They aren't ruling at all, it's 100 percent imaginary and Christ is also not ruling the Earth. Wicked men rule this world helped by satan whether they realize it or not. Christ will return and literally rule, a real rule, over the people of this world. We are still waiting for that glorious day.
That is insane. Anyone that thinks Jesus is ruling earth and has been for centuries should take a vacation in Ukraine.
 

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That is insane. Anyone that thinks Jesus is ruling earth and has been for centuries should take a vacation in Ukraine.


Since Jesus is ruling this world, does that means he is the one that started the war, according to the no-mill crowd which is a contradiction because all Amillennialists believe in a Millennium, it's happening right now! lol
 

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Since Jesus is ruling this world, does that means he is the one that started the war, according to the no-mill crowd which is a contradiction because all Amillennialists believe in a Millennium, it's happening right now! lol
Right, and He presides over human trafficking, public education,abortion, WOMD, and etc if He rules today on earth.
 

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Right, and He presides over human trafficking, public education,abortion, WOMD, and etc if He rules today on earth.


Such a great ruler we currently have!
 

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From that post you said this


'1.000 years? That is the SEVENTH AND LAST DAY OR SEVENTH AND LAST MILLENNIUM...'
So what does this mean? The last 1000 years? A single day? or..? Let him who postest understand what he posts and be clear.

Don't you know what a millennium means? 2 Peter 3:v.8
 

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Should we guess what our idols are supposed to be here? Is it that we see that your position is not scriptural?

The idols are in your heart.

The Word of GOD is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

The Word is GOD, understand?
 

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They don't know their own doctrine very well. All Amillennialists believe in a thousand years on the Earth. They believe it's happening now and has been for a long time. They believe Christ rules the Earth from heaven with the dead saints, and living saints are ruling with Christ now upon the Earth. They aren't ruling at all, it's 100 percent imaginary and Christ is also not ruling the Earth. Wicked men rule this world helped by satan whether they realize it or not. Christ will return and literally rule, a real rule, over the people of this world. We are still waiting for that glorious day.

That is insane. Anyone that thinks Jesus is ruling earth and has been for centuries should take a vacation in Ukraine.

As was prophesied by the Apostle of the Lord, the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. As Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the Truth: Men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.

-GOD is Truth-the Word is GOD-
 

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As was prophesied by the Apostle of the Lord, the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. As Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the Truth: Men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as their's also was.

-GOD is Truth-the Word is GOD-
So by this you mean there is no 1000 years as the bible teaches. Sad that such a clearly unsound and unspriptural position would be offered as something else.
 

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So by this you mean there is no 1000 years as the bible teaches. Sad that such a clearly unsound and unspriptural position would be offered as something else.

GOD is in control of history -the Word is GOD - , and nothing random happens. GOD will destroy them which destroy the earth-Revelation 11:v.18. What prevails is the Word of GOD. Get ready.

KEEP IN MIND THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN FROM NOW ON, AND IS DESCRIBED BELOW, IT WILL BE MADE THROUGH A PROCESS,NOT BY MAGIC.GOD DOESN'T DO MAGIC, HE WORKS IN HIS WORKS.


What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD, the Word works. For example, do you remember how the Word-GOD-was made flesh? And before, He chose a NAME for himself-JESUS.
Russia Preparing for War.
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And JESUS warned: Matt. 24:v.6-8:
6 Ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet. (Comment: This is fulfilling literally and will continue in future by indefinite days, day after day).


7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: (Comments): Understand. For now the fulfilment of this prophecy is in stand by because we are in the beginning of sorrows. Actually, the extension of this prophecy goes far, very far, inimaginable, because the chastisements have its beginning, yeah, its beginning, but it WILL NEVER END, it WILL NEVER STOP, BUT NEVER, the punishment is ETERNAL, it is for ever and ever, understand? Once the Word of GOD says it is nation against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, understand, there will not be any kind of "Federation" or Confederation, and also there will not be United groups or Organizations which still there are today or in the current time as such :

UN - United Nations Organization
NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization
OAS - Organization of American States
WTO - World Trade Organization
UNESCO - United Nations Organization for Education, Science and Culture
OECD - Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
BIRD - International Bank for Reconstruction and Development.
IMF - International Monetary Fund
WHO - World Health Organization
ILO - International Labor Organization,
G-7
G-20
and others;

Be sure that ALL, but ALL, will be destroyed, will be DISSOLVED, yeah, DISSOLVED, like an GIGANTIC IMPLOSION, by analogy, something like the inimaginable fall of the two TOWERS of the WTC-Word Trade Center, so the confusion or mess is done, in other words, the hell's fire starts to burn, the eternal fire, yeah, forever and ever.


For better understand of you and ALL, I remember 2 Peter 3:v.7 to 18:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, yeah, now, even now, by the same Word are kept in store-the Word is GOD- , reserved unto fire against this Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of this Day of GOD, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be DISSOLVED, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

FOR NOW, we are in the beginning of sorrows, but the sorrows will be incrased exceedingly and the torment too. As is written in Luke 21:v.26-27: ,

26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Be careful or get ready

Revelation 6:v.14-17

The heaven (heaven? Ephesians 1:v.3 among others-Check it- , by the way, the heaven which are now.) will be departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and (by alegory) every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great Day (THE SEVENTH AND LAST DAY OR SEVENTH AND LAST MILLENNIUM) of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
 

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GOD is in control of history -the Word is GOD - , and nothing random happens. GOD will destroy them which destroy the earth-Revelation 11:v.18. What prevails is the Word of GOD. Get ready.

KEEP IN MIND THAT WHAT WILL HAPPEN FROM NOW ON, AND IS DESCRIBED BELOW, IT WILL BE MADE THROUGH A PROCESS,NOT BY MAGIC.GOD DOESN'T DO MAGIC, HE WORKS IN HIS WORKS.

What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD, the Word works. For example, do you remember how the Word-GOD-was made flesh? And before, He chose a NAME for himself-JESUS.
Russia Preparing for War.
Post # 297

And JESUS warned: Matt. 24:v.6-8:
6 Ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet. (Comment: This is fulfilling literally and will continue in future by indefinite days, day after day).

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: (Comments): Understand. For now the fulfilment of this prophecy is in stand by because we are in the beginning of sorrows. Actually, the extension of this prophecy goes far, very far, inimaginable, because the chastisements have its beginning, yeah, its beginning, but it WILL NEVER END, it WILL NEVER STOP, BUT NEVER, the punishment is ETERNAL, it is for ever and ever, understand? Once the Word of GOD says it is nation against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, understand, there will not be any kind of "Federation" or Confederation, and also there will not be United groups or Organizations which still there are today or in the current time as such :
UN - United Nations Organization
NATO - North Atlantic Treaty Organization
OAS - Organization of American States
WTO - World Trade Organization
UNESCO - United Nations Organization for Education, Science and Culture
OECD - Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.
BIRD - International Bank for Reconstruction and Development.
IMF - International Monetary Fund
WHO - World Health Organization
ILO - International Labor Organization,
G-7
G-20
and others;

Be sure that ALL, but ALL, will be destroyed, will be DISSOLVED, yeah, DISSOLVED, like an GIGANTIC IMPLOSION, by analogy, something like the inimaginable fall of the two TOWERS of the WTC-Word Trade Center, so the confusion or mess is done, in other words, the hell's fire starts to burn, the eternal fire, yeah, forever and ever.

For better understand of you and ALL, I remember 2 Peter 3:v.7 to 18:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, yeah, now, even now, by the same Word are kept in store-the Word is GOD- , reserved unto fire against this Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of this Day of GOD, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be DISSOLVED, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
17 Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.

FOR NOW, we are in the beginning of sorrows, but the sorrows will be incrased exceedingly and the torment too. As is written in Luke 21:v.26-27: ,
26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

Be careful or get ready

Revelation 6:v.14-17
The heaven (heaven? Ephesians 1:v.3 among others-Check it- , by the way, the heaven which are now.) will be departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and (by alegory) every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great Day (THE SEVENTH AND LAST DAY OR SEVENTH AND LAST MILLENNIUM) of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

The earth will be dissolved, and that happens at the end of the 1000 years as God says. Any other point? Do spell out for us when you think that 1000 years was? (if you even think it is real)
 

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Are you redeemed from the moral law as per Galatians 4:5? 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
Are you suggesting that being redeemed and sons is what Luke 21 was referring to? If so, that won't work. We were always redeemed through history in spirit. The point of Luke 21 was that there would come a time when our total redemption that includes the body would be near when the things STARTED to happen.
The ones left behind at the Rapture are not saved, so would not quality as 'you' when He said when YOU begin to see these things. Many millions later will be saved in the Tribulation, so then they also qualify, but the next train coming for the physical redemption will be the second coming of Jesus.
 

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Let’s not jump the gun, as everyone is always doing.

We are still in birth pangs at the moment:

Luk 21:7 And they asked him, “Teacher, when will these things be, and what will be the sign when these things are about to take place?”

Luk 21:8 And he said, “See that you are not led astray. For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am he!’ and, ‘The time is at hand!’ Do not go after them.

Luk 21:9 And when you hear of wars and tumults, do not be terrified, for these things must first take place, but the end will not be at once.”

Luke 21:10 Then he said to them, “Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom.

Luk 21:11 There will be great earthquakes, and in various places famines and pestilences. And there will be terrors and great signs from heaven.

Luk 21:25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;

Luk 21:26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.


There are currently no terrors and great signs in the heavens so terrifying that hearts are failing from fear.




 
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