Things are getting scary in England

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This topic is bloody terrifying, not the rise of Islam. Quoting the Daily Fail is always a good start, considering as they hate anything further left-wing of Mussolini. It's all scaremongering BS, there's not a chance that they'll allow Sharia Law courts to stand alone in Britain.

Islam is not "demonic", it's not a "barbaric" religion. Islam is, at it's very core, peaceful. Once upon a time, the idea of Muslims going to war would have been abhorrent, as the very nature of the religion is peace. Just like once upon a time, Christianity was at it's core, "tolerant". We're not the judge, God is, all that jazz. Seems the people here have forgotten that.

Don't allow the right-wing tabloids and your own personal narrow-minded ignorant views to try and paint up Muslims as bloodythirsty barbaric terrorists, because that simply isn't true. Sorry to rain on your right-wing hate parade and all that.

 

[Duckybill]

Islam is not "demonic",

Are you saying that Muslims are saved??? Islam is a form of Satanism, as are ALL religions other than Christian.

 

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No they're not saved, as you can only be saved through Christ. But they're not a form of satanism, as satanism is worshipping satan (the clue's in the title). Islam is an Abrahamic religion, they worship the same God we do, just the wrong way about it.

 

[Duckybill]

No they're not saved, as you can only be saved through Christ. But they're not a form of satanism, as satanism is worshipping satan (the clue's in the title). Islam is an Abrahamic religion, they worship the same God we do, just the wrong way about it.

No, they do not worship Jesus/God. Islam is a Satanic deception.

 

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They don't worship Jesus, but they do worship God. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all descended from the same point, hence the term "Abrahamic religions". Obviously they've all diversified massively since then, but they all believe in the one true God.

 

[Duckybill]

They don't worship Jesus, but they do worship God.

Please tell us that you aren't denying Jesus/God.

 

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No, you misunderstand me. What I mean is, they believe in the one true God, but don't accept Jesus as the messiah. Judaism is the same - they believe Him to be a prophet (Jesus is actually the second most imporant prophet in Islam, fact fans), whereas Christians obviously accept Him as the Saviour. This doesn't make them satanic, as they don't worship Satan. They believe in God, the same God as us, but just don't believe in the trinity or other aspects. It's not "demonic", just, well, incorrect. But they're not evil. Trust me, as a resident of the UK I see an awful lot of right-wing press portray Muslims as barbarians who hate women and oppress free speech and who hate the West. This just isn't the case, and although there ARE Muslims who are terrorists, there are as many Christians out there who are the same. They're misguided extremists, and in no way representative of the message their religion carries.

I am not saying Islam is the correct path, as obviously, Christianity is. But I'm just trying to inject a bit of perspective and intelligent rationality into, what until now, was a ridiculous, almost facist tirade against Islam. It's not the right path, but that doesn't make it satanic either.

 

[Duckybill]

They believe in God, the same God as us, but just don't believe in the trinity or other aspects.

If they don't believe in the OT God of Israel and they don't believe in the NT God Jesus, then how can it be the same God Whom we believe in?

It's not "demonic", just, well, incorrect. But they're not evil. Trust me, as a resident of the UK I see an awful lot of right-wing press portray Muslims as barbarians who hate women and oppress free speech and who hate the West. This just isn't the case, and although there ARE Muslims who are terrorists, there are as many Christians out there who are the same. They're misguided extremists, and in no way representative of the message their religion carries.

I am not saying Islam is the correct path, as obviously, Christianity is. But I'm just trying to inject a bit of perspective and intelligent rationality into, what until now, was a ridiculous, almost facist tirade against Islam. It's not the right path, but that doesn't make it satanic either.

Every religion that does not believe in Jesus/God is anti-Christ, which is certainly Satanism.

 

[aspen]

Are you saying that Muslims are saved??? Islam is a form of Satanism, as are ALL religions other than Christian.

Actually, all other religions are incomplete.

 

[Duckybill]

Actually, all other religions are incomplete.

What other religions believe in Jesus/God?

 

[aspen]

What other religions believe in Jesus/God?

Jesus is the part they are missing. It doesn't mean they are without all truth.

 

[Duckybill]

Any religion that denies Jesus/God is anti-Christ.

 

[aspen]

Any religion that denies Jesus/God is anti-Christ.

Irrelevant.

 

[Duckybill]

Irrelevant.

Jesus/God irrelevant? Not to Christians.

 

[Foreigner]

Any religion that denies Jesus/God is anti-Christ.

Irrelevant.

-- Not to God it isn't.

 

[aspen]

Jesus/God irrelevant? Not to Christians.

And you know that is not my point.

It is irrelevant to claim that religions that do not believe Jesus is God are antichristian - not to mention, inaccurate. All other religions are incomplete, not antichristian.

 

[Duckybill]

And you know that is not my point.

It is irrelevant to claim that religions that do not believe Jesus is God are antichristian - not to mention, inaccurate. All other religions are incomplete, not antichristian.

Any religion that denies Jesus/God is anti-Christ.

2 John 1:7 (ESV)
[sup]7 [/sup]For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.

 

[aspen]

Any religion that denies Jesus/God is anti-Christ.

2 John 1:7 (ESV)
[sup]7 [/sup]For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Deceivers have the intent to deceive others. This verse is addressing deceiver specifically. Other religions are sincere about their beliefs,therefore they are not deceivers.

 

[Duckybill]

Deceivers have the intent to deceive others. This verse is addressing deceiver specifically. Other religions are sincere about their beliefs,therefore they are not deceivers.

You are now defending anti-Christ religions.

 

[aspen]

You are now defending anti-Christ religions.

Defending them from what?