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You're a funny guy, but I get your point. There are proper rules for exegetical study, biblical hermeneutics, but Christ isn't received through scholarship, nor is spiritual understanding.ah well i would expect a group with that name to implode, sure
ha well...i guess deeming oneself "rightly dividing" prolly seems like a good thing, huh?
yet the number was disconnected, right
March on in the glorious Lord . And let the LORD be praisedI don't have a neighborhood. I live in the sticks 10 miles away from the closest town.
The closest church in the town has gay pride flags flying outside.
I live on SS supplement. $500. a month. I go to town once a month for food shopping.
I can't afford the gas. I'm disabled and can't walk or sit in one position for very long. I would probably be a distraction.
I been to a few churches in my time, but they don't like it when you ask questions, so I stopped going.
That was when I lived in a city and was healthy and had a job.
I'm happy here. I feel you all are my neighbors and my family.
I meet here everyday or as often as I can. Sometimes I wonder over to other forums but their not the same.
This is my church.
I hear what your saying...
All I can do is trust God to keep my dad's property that I live on, safe.
And last fall was pretty intense. A circuit breaker went bad and I smelled burning electricity. I called an electrician and he fixed it.
The roof leaked in the garage and destroyed the heater that kept the water pump from freezing, so I called my friend that mows my lawn and he brought his brother and fixed the leak, the gas company replaced the heater, and all is well.
Both buildings could of been toast. But the Lord intervened before that could happen.
I feel a lot of love through these pages. Through the words I hear the spirit in the people.
I can almost imagine what everyone looks like. Not by the flesh, but by the spirit.
And it is a tremendous blessing.
And this is what the Lord has provided for me.
So I'm not complaining.
Hugs
Amen! My last (of several) baptist pastors, was quizzed by me,it's not wise to challenge a pastor's teaching in a public way. Pastors are dependent upon the congregation trusting them and error, especially gross error should be discussed first in private...We are not called to be divisive, but to a mutual submission. If such submission would compromise our conscience, then it's better to "shake the dust from our feet" and seek another place that doesn't compromise our conscience.
Awesome, sister. I completely understand and "the Lord our provider" is certainly one of my favorite names of God. He knows our need and meets it. He's entirely faithful and makes me wish that I were as well. May the Lord bless you, keep you close, and bless you in every way according to His great and awesome promises. Amen.I don't have a neighborhood. I live in the sticks 10 miles away from the closest town.
The closest church in the town has gay pride flags flying outside.
I live on SS supplement. $500. a month. I go to town once a month for food shopping.
I can't afford the gas. I'm disabled and can't walk or sit in one position for very long. I would probably be a distraction.
I been to a few churches in my time, but they don't like it when you ask questions, so I stopped going.
That was when I lived in a city and was healthy and had a job.
I'm happy here. I feel you all are my neighbors and my family.
I meet here everyday or as often as I can. Sometimes I wonder over to other forums but their not the same.
This is my church.
I hear what your saying...
All I can do is trust God to keep my dad's property that I live on, safe.
And last fall was pretty intense. A circuit breaker went bad and I smelled burning electricity. I called an electrician and he fixed it.
The roof leaked in the garage and destroyed the heater that kept the water pump from freezing, so I called my friend that mows my lawn and he brought his brother and fixed the leak, the gas company replaced the heater, and all is well.
Both buildings could of been toast. But the Lord intervened before that could happen.
I feel a lot of love through these pages. Through the words I hear the spirit in the people.
I can almost imagine what everyone looks like. Not by the flesh, but by the spirit.
And it is a tremendous blessing.
And this is what the Lord has provided for me.
So I'm not complaining.
Hugs
I agree, and the pastoral Epistles exhort us to avoid putting the spiritually young into leadership positions as this can be a form of temptation and a cause for a fall.My own place in our church was as publisher of quarterly news letters with contributions which we shared and helped us keep in touch. I also took turns on the overhead projector and I hosted midweek bible studies and took turns on the tea/coffee rota. We can all do something for our fellowships. We don't need to be 'front of house' to use the talents we have. I don't think I would want to belong to a church which didn't want my talents - however small and insignificant they may seem to me. The trouble is though that some people want a 'ministry' and may convince themselves they are preachers or prophets etc when they are clearly not.
It wasn't the kindest thing for me to say, and my desire is to see new life, but there's a reason that the Lord snatched me out of their grip as a child. I don't question the wisdom of God.
Thanks. I had no clue.Ps , ziggy is a sister . Just reminding . Now let all that draws breath praise and thank the glorious LORD .
You may be right. I don't receive broadcast TV out in the boonies, and cable TV is way too expensive here, but I need internet service to use my phone at home and just stream news and entertainment. ABC has a segment for "faith fridays" and their lady "reverend" talks about things like "karma" and reminds me of an old Flip Wilson skit on "the church of what's happening now."Thankfully the days of playing church are really over. In my opinion @michaelvpardo
I will answer them according to the IDOLS of their heart . Joel and others are and have become very richYou may be right. I don't receive broadcast TV out in the boonies, and cable TV is way too expensive here, but I need internet service to use my phone at home and just stream news and entertainment. ABC has a segment for "faith fridays" and their lady "reverend" talks about things like "karma" and reminds me of an old Flip Wilson skit on "the church of what's happening now."
I don't know how men like Joel Osteen are doing these days, but frauds find ways to prosper.
Well, I'm not sure what you're specifically defining as that doctrine (or whoever is defining it,) but there's only One Holy Spirit, so identifying with Christ in His death by receiving His Spirit is one baptism and the only one that counts toward salvation. The ordinance of Baptism, whether being sprinkled or dunked, is just an act of obedience to identify with the congregation and be recognized with the making of the good confession before men and justified according to Christ's teaching.Amen! My last (of several) baptist pastors, was quizzed by me,
after I had studied a "Baptism And The Bible" book that I found in/
/borrowed (secretly) from his library. Not necessarily was it "a
challenge," but more like a (life-long professional) student
searching for the Truth:
Are all of Paul's Scriptures, excepting 1Co_1:14-17, about
"Spiritual" baptism? His answer was: "Yes, but (red flag?)
we have to remember water baptism." (TWO baptisms?)
After more prayer, review of Scripture, and more prayer, I did as
you say: "shook the dust from my feet." Of course the people,
our friends, "loved us," as my wife had cancer, and God sent us
our Special blind daughter ("angel" Now 31!), and they brought
us meals to help out.
After we left, the pastor brought a couple of elders to visit and find
out "why" we left. After explaining the "New (Never-Before-heard)
doctrine" of ONE Baptism, I had studied, then he finished with:
"In our fellowship group, we Disagree with the teacher you have
been reading and studying with."
Now, I don't know about anyone else, but, to me, that didn't
sit very well, because after pondering it, this came to mind:
"JESUS Came To His Own (with Truth), and they
received Him not...(Disagreed?)...crucifying Him,"
Correct?
So that, Also "with God's Math, ie: ONE does not Equal two,"
solidified my decision to depart. Have Never looked back.
A very few have responded to my (challenging?) "Divider" Poll...
about this (apparently NON-important?) doctrine of ONE Baptism.
Of course, perchance, I am being "divisive"?
GRACE And Peace...
while i dont know for sure, i have a feeling that what we call “church” now are deemed “love feasts” by the Bible, which would change the dynamic there quite a bit i guess, but one point might be that we are now worried about abandoning our love feasts, and not Church, having mis-labeled “Church”I did that myself, but not by intent. I was "saved" through the ministry of coworkers and in one of my read throughs of the Bible I was convicted by the verse about abandoning the gathering together of the assembly. That's when I started looking for a "home church." However, I don't know that this is for everyone. Some people were raised by Christian parents and believed the gospel at an early age. Sometimes they stay in the same church where their parents served and worshipped, sometimes they relocate as adults, sometimes the Lord makes them discontented where they are and gives them the desire to go visit other assemblies. "One size doesn't fit all."
I believe that the key is to trust the Lord and be sensitive to His guidance. I don't know that you can follow Him without knowing Him, but those that know Him should trust Him, shouldn't they? Following His guidance is how trust is built, and trusting His word is faith. I like the story of Gideon from the book of judges. He tested the Lord, but he learned how to trust His word.
ah, did the number work for you? It just struck me as a commentary that it was disconnected; doesnt mean that it is though i guess
well, id agree with “counterfeit” maybe, but as much as i dislike Rome, i guess we also still need Rome, kinda weird. Plus, we are all in some sort of counterfeit anyway, imo; Protestants are really in the same boat as Catholics imo, just different window-dressing, both cult of sol invictus, no disagreement between them on any essential matters that i can findRCC, dead, lifeless.
I was once a sincere, faithful to God, young Catholic altar boy. I never had any serious complaints about Catholics as a whole when I was among them... but I honestly did not know much. I never even owned a Bible then.It wasn't the kindest thing for me to say, and my desire is to see new life, but there's a reason that the Lord snatched me out of their grip as a child. I don't question the wisdom of God.
Just remember this , we cannot be faithful to GOD and to men who are and have gone wrong .I was once a sincere, faithful to God, young Catholic altar boy. I never had any serious complaints about Catholics as a whole when I was among them... but I honestly did not know much. I never even owned a Bible then.
As a practicing Catholic I was blessed by God and cannot ever forget or deny that... even though God did bring me out of there a great many years ago.
Off the top of my head, today, I would not recommend that any person join the Catholic Church. However, I do not always know God's pathway for other people, so I try stand back in silence unless a person or God presses me to speak... We need to be careful about letting people do that.
Since my participation in online forums began more than 20 years ago, I have encountered at least two Catholics, who, to me, presented better walks with God than many of the apparently Protestant members. One of them was on this forum.
Give God the glory!
I am not disagreeing with you, my friend. You must do what God leads you to do to help others in need of help... most especially those who really want to be helped. My calling is not precisely the same, but we certainly agree that God's purposes are altogether good. Lots of warnings are in order!Just remember this , we cannot be faithful to GOD and to men who are and have gone wrong .
Yes we do learn as we grow . but a lamb will feed from its bible and by the SPIRIT it will learn and grow .
This is why out of great love for the souls of men i warn any and all who are in a false place to get out
and yes i do name names of false teachers .
As did paul ,
Today we have been taught not to name names . But i say we must protect the sheep .
And thus we would do all for their sake to call them out of any dangerous place
and also warn one not to enter into any such deadly place . Believe it or not , ITS NOT HATE for me to do such a thing .
ITS LOVE , ITS TRUE LOVE that comes FROM GOD . FOR as HE desires not one to perish , well by HIS grace
I NOW DESIRE none to perish . thus i warn .