Ugh, idk what in the world you're talking about. You asked me not to post my dreams/vision. Not the other way around.Why are you asking me not to share your dreams when I already told you I wouldn't want you to?:
Can You Read Dreams?
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Hidden In Him
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I've had several people post that I have the gift on this forum and others. The reason I am testifying to having it in this thread is because how the gift is operated in is being discussed. You would have me say, "I don't have the gift, but here is how it works"? That doesn't make sense. I know of prophets who have spoken at length about how to operate in prophecy. They are sinning to be writing books on it out of a desire to teach others? I don't agree with you here either. I think this is just part of that false humility business, where people want to say, "Don't look at me," when the Lord is very specifically trying to use them.
You would have the apostle Paul deny that he is an apostle? There are instances where he defended it before others whether they wanted to hear it or not. Would you like me to show them to you, Pearl?
Not sure what you're saying here @Hidden In Him.
In post number 6 you spoke of there needing to be skills and principles in dream interpretation and I still think it is something that can't be taught/learned.
amigo de christo
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sadly what you just wrote about todays charasmetic movement is true .
Though i fully believe that all the gifts are still real today , and JESUS dont change .
But its a mess within a mess in todays charasmetics . And the folks who sit under them have zero discernment .
I am also against the teaching of cessationism . BIG TIME against it . But yeah you are right my friend , todays
charasmetic movement has been taken over by wolves big time .
Hidden In Him
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As I replied to her in one of my first posts, a gift is given and one cannot teach others into it if they have not had the Lord give it to them. But for those who HAVE been given the gift, there is the ability to teach them if another person has more experience in it. And this is not even mentioning teaching the ordinary layman. I believe interpretation should be open to the entire body of Christ, just as prophesying should. But I also believe that those with such gifts ought to instruct the body of Christ as a whole in how to better operate in them.
Once upon a time I had posted a dream I had. Not that I thought it was prophetic, or fraught with meaning, only that I thought it was an interesting dream. You offered to interpret it for me, but first you wanted me to tell you about what was happening in my life at the time. Why? Why did you need that information?
Much love!
I didn't know you were saying you had the gift of interpreting dreams - I must obviously have missed something.
Hidden In Him
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Yes, but you are not taking what I am saying in its entirety, so there has been a breakdown in communication of sorts, or at least that's how I have been viewing it. But the entirety of dream interpretation is not spontaneous. Initial insights that key off the interpretation are, and they come from the Holy Spirit directly upon the mind. But much of the rest of it involves putting together pieces of a puzzle, with a number of things following logically.
Now I will say this: There does enter in a danger of interpreting in the flesh because things LOOK like they are therefore "logically" saying this, or "logically" saying that. I have made this mistake a number of times, and it is worth pointing out. One needs to stay reliant upon the Holy Spirit's guidance through the entire process, or you run the risk of assuming things that LOOK right according to your logical mind but actually aren't. But logic in making connections can often lead you in the right direction as well, and how pieces together that "fit" just like if you were doing a puzzle. Towards the end, some pieces just become easier and more obvious, if you will.
I agree with @Pearl on gifts. It is God who gives gifts. And not everyone claiming to be a prophet is a prophet. I cringe to think of someone making money writing books on something that is supposed to come from God alone, as if they or anyone can teach someone what comes from God alone. We can't move people into "gifts" because we aren't the source of those gifts.
Look.... this scripture says it more clearly.
1 John 2:27
[27]But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
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I've not read anything in the Bible of a "gift of interpreting dreams". I've seen where in certain cases God gave interpretations of dreams to certain individuals. But nothing in the passages of gifts of the Spirit, no examples in the Gospels or the Acts of the Apostles, no teaching in the letters, whether ecclessiastical or pastoral. Where do we get the idea that there is such a thing?
God gave Daniel some interpretations of the dreams of some Gentiles. What are the other passages that show us and teach us about "dream interpretation"?
Much love!
God gave Daniel some interpretations of the dreams of some Gentiles. What are the other passages that show us and teach us about "dream interpretation"?
Much love!
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amigo de christo
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Interpretation as concerning where the interpreation is from GOD or of men and a lie , THAT should be easily open to the church .
IN other words if i came telling a dream , then another stood and gave interpretation of said dream
YET it was clear by their intepretation that it would contradict scripture , YEAH that should be easily discerned .
The problem is , as you know , MOST dont read those bibles , thus they just go with the flow of any interpreation
of dream , SO long as it feeds their carnal desires . I see this all the time .
Let me give an example . I MYSELF had a dream long , long ago . IT was probably the first dream i recieved from GOD
after being drawn to Christ . And it was a beauty too .
Some folks , prosperity hungry folks , interpreted it to mean a money blessing was on the way to me . I KNEW that was A LIE .
I had the dream and understood it .
The dream was a beauty and it was all about being drawn to the true treasure and having the true treasures
poured down from heaven upon my heart .
YOU SEE . IN the dream i was walking along the ocean . ON the beach .
A clear and sunny day . I looked out into the ocean and the water contained this massive treasure chest . The riches in the water .
I then noticed a cloud from above began to build . The cloud pulled up the treasure in the ocean into its clouds .
And then from the heavens the rain fell with all this gold down unto me .
And i went around just happily gathering it up . Each piece had the number two on it .
ANYWAY . HERE is the true understanding . THE WATER is the Word of GOD and its a beautiful treasure indeed .
And the heavens , pulled the treasure of His word and poured it down and my heart ran happily after it .
I was put in that Bible my friend with a HUNGER FROM GOD for EVERY LOVELY WORD .
THE dream had nothing to do with their false money loving lies . GOD gave me that dream and HE gave me that heart
to go right after the TRUE TREASURE OF HIS WORD WHICH COMETH DOWN FROM HEAVEN . YEAH , i told you it was a beauty of a dream .
Okay, question, @Hidden In Him. In your experience, what does it mean when someone dreams of a wedding?
(Btw, I have just gotten understanding of a dream I had about a year or so ago. I don't need to post it bc it was for me personally. At least, that is the leading I have at this time. I sensed in my spirit that He may lead me to share it in the future ....but not necessarily here on this forum.)
(Btw, I have just gotten understanding of a dream I had about a year or so ago. I don't need to post it bc it was for me personally. At least, that is the leading I have at this time. I sensed in my spirit that He may lead me to share it in the future ....but not necessarily here on this forum.)
Hidden In Him
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Not enough prayer and not enough fasting. And that includes me. I have failed at interpretation numerous times, and I have prayed to operate in more than just that gift. But I have not sought Him out to the extent that I need to, and the Lord brought this home to me more than ever recently, through a dream no less, LoL.
It's easy to desire gifts, and easy to teach about them. It is not easy to pay the price spiritually, though some will say that it just "happens." I don't think so. I think Paul urged the Corinthians to "pray that you may interpret" for a reason, and we as a church are not doing what he suggested with our whole hearts at this point in time.
I believe that will eventually change, however. I think there will be an increasing number of people who just get fed up, and want to see the real thing manifest bad enough that they travail in prayer and fasting for as long as it takes, even to the point of risking their lives and their health.
Hidden In Him
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Post #38, Mark.
I will copy and paste for you:
You see, this is what I am talking about when I refer to needing to use the mind. When a believer has a dream about their own personal life, do you know why it is easier for them to interpret it? Because they know their own lives, in great detail. They know their actions, both private and public; they know their own hearts; they know their own history; they know their own relationships and secrets, and failings, and inner desires, and weaknesses and callings and hopes and fears and dreams. They have all this INFORMATION at their finger tips. The outside interpreter does not, and needs to gather it if they would come anywhere close to interpreting a dream accurately. Now if they have a gift of discernment that often comes with interpretation, they tend to pick up on things quickly which the Holy Spirit keys them off on, and I have had this happen to me many times. And btw, I will talk about my own experiences here whether anyone accuses me of "announcing it to the world" or not. One of the hallmarks of the end-time church is that they will move in visions and dreams, and at the expense of being vilified for talking about my own experiences I am going to share what I know on the subject. But what many Christians do not have is a wealthy knowledge about either scripture or Biblical symbolism, and I have seen this many times as well. Along with not having much discernment, they don't understand how symbolism is often used in things like the parables or prophetic books. So those are places where most of the help is needed. You draw them out into helping them figure out parts that they don't get. I've seen it happen with too many people not to believe there is a usefulness to helping people interpret their dreams.
Hidden In Him
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I think we're both lost at this point, Lol.
Could mean a number of things. The rest of the context would bear it out.
1. Could mean an actual wedding.
2. Could mean a spiritual wedding of sorts, such as between Christ and a congregation or ministry (I have seen this in dreams).
3. Could mean a marriage between ministry partners (I have seen this in dreams as well).
4. Could mean even mean something like a business partnership, or something else. I all depends on context.
How does this describe spiritual revelation?
Why did you need to ask me about my life, before God was able to reveal to you a meaning?
Why? Doesn't the Holy Spirit already know?
Much love!
I believe you're right, brother. I don't think it is described as a gift. But everyplace where the Bible speaks of interpreting a dream, it is given by God ...and others noted that that person was an interpreter of dreams and God was with them.
Genesis 40:8
[8]And they said unto him, We have dreamed a dream, and there is no interpreter of it. And Joseph said unto them, Do not interpretations belong to God? tell me them, I pray you.
Genesis 41:15
[15]And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I have dreamed a dream, and there is none that can interpret it: and I have heard say of thee, that thou canst understand a dream to interpret it.Genesis 40:8
[8]And they said unto him, We have dreamed a dream, and there is no interpreter of it. And Joseph said unto them, Do not interpretations belong to God? tell me them, I pray you.
Speak for yourself. (lol) I know what I said and what you said. You seem to have forgotten what you said and why.
Thank for that, the wire got crossed somewhere. My dreams are quite simple and haven't yet involved symbolism, so that's how I was looking at it. I always know as soon as I wake when I've been given a God dream and can remember dreams from years ago. I write them down too in case they may be of use to others.
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