The real Jesus
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A god? That could be the real God or a false god. Are you saying that Jesus is a false god? Wouldn't that make Jesus Satanic? Please elaborate.
Who do you think a King’s King is? It’s himself.
Who do you think a President’s President is? It’s himself.
God is omnipresent.
In Heaven He is the Father.
On Earth He is the Son.
God is His own God.
God set His own Limits and Obeys what He can and can not do.
God CAN, HAS, SHALL appear Again in the FORM Bodily Likeness as an earthly MAN, even though He is Spirit.
Remember Philip?
Remember Jesus’ remarks to Philip?
Paraphrasing;
Philip; “Jesus, Jesus, let us see the Father.”
Jesus; “Really? Who ya think you’re seeing when you look at me”?
Just sayin...
John 14:
- [8] Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
- [9] Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?
Not opinion--I have studied religions and Jesus for 60 years and the facts of true God worship history. There is 0 doubt Jesus and facts back the JW teachers all the way. This world is in trouble.
Small g god is not calling that one God. It carries the meaning -has godlike qualities. God did it all through Jesus-Acts 2:22, 1 Cor 8:5-6
In 1822 a NT translation compared Greek to English side by side proving small g god was correct in the last line at John 1:1.
AceWestfall08
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AceWestfall08
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The only way that Jesus is God is in the scenario that when the Spirit entered Mary....God himself transformed from a spirit into an infant...and probably hiding his memory...a part of himself that needed discovered....piece by piece of it uncovered as he aged. And he got used to calling or seeing his "full self" as a father type, because he learned from himself like a son does from a father.
John 14:9
9 Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
I don't think Jesus lied. Jesus is God!
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AceWestfall08
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46 About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”).
At his final moments....he cries out for God....It doesnt get more personal than that. He is clearly calling out to His god.
AceWestfall08
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I'm listening......go on....
he had the mindset, on the cross. in physical agony. (because he was human in flesh)....on the very brink of death....and what he wanted to do was "quote scripture"?
he had the mindset, on the cross. in physical agony. (because he was human in flesh)....on the very brink of death....and what he wanted to do was "quote scripture"?
AceWestfall08
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I've read the OT....but what your references doesn't come to mind right off the bat.
Are you refering to David in Psalms?
When he was crying out to God? He said he "knows" he wouldnt be forsaken in hell....or something like that.
Are you refering to David in Psalms?
When he was crying out to God? He said he "knows" he wouldnt be forsaken in hell....or something like that.
AceWestfall08
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i'm not teaching....i'm asking questions....pointing out scriptures that say the opposite, or have an opposing view. Trying to wrap my head around everything. if you look at some of the other posts i've done on this forum. You will see my testimony, and how its Christian Based, but my foundation is a personal expierence.
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