Protection From False Prophets

[Jane_Doe22]

Jane Doe, you always manage to be disingenuous about Mormon beliefs.

Here's what "Mormon Rules" says:
"They use both the Old and the New Testaments, and they also use several books of scripture unique to Mormonism. The Book of Mormon is best-known, but they also use the Doctrine and Covenants, which is a book of modern revelation, and the Pearl of Great Price, a small volume of various scriptures and records. Which of these do the Mormons consider the most important? Mormons believe that all four, combined with wisdom from current prophets, must be combined in order to completely understand the gospel of Jesus Christ. Reading just one book gives you only a partial understanding of God’s doctrines."
Mormon Rules: Which Scriptures Matter Most?

In other words you cannot be a Mormon unless you equate at least those other three Mormon books to the Holy Bible. So please tell us if you personally do what Mormons are expected to do? If not, you are a fake Mormon.

This flame is an off topic spin off in an off topic spin off. So if I create a different thread on the matter, would it matter? Are you willing to leave the “anti-cult” the party line?

 

[Behold]

This flame is an off topic spin off in an off topic spin off. So if I create a different thread on the matter, would it matter? Are you willing to leave the “anti-cult” the party line?

You want to abuse the Fourm, by teaching hellish mormon theology, on a NON THEOLOGY section, as you dont care about rules, as that is how dishonest people behave.
So, when you are shown to be what you are, and then your CULT is shown to be what it is....you can't realize that you brought all this down upon yourself?
Clueless?
No doubt.

 

[Jane_Doe22]

You want to abuse the Fourm, by teaching hellish mormon theology, on a NON THEOLOGY section, as you dont care about rules, as that is how dishonest people behave.
So, when you are shown to be what you are, and then your CULT is shown to be what it is....you can't realize that you brought all this down upon yourself?
Clueless?
No doubt.

I know what I am. And to be blunt: you do not and you’ve shown you also don’t care over your “anti-cult” party line.

Have a nice day.

 

[Behold]

I know what I am. And to be blunt: you do not and you’ve shown you also don’t care over your “anti-cult” party line.
.

I dont have to care about a situation that you have created.
You chose to shove mormonism down the Throat of the Forum, using a Forum Section, that is not related to THEOLOGY, the teaching of it.
You have continued to do it, probably today also.
So, it is YOU that does not care., except to keep molesting a Christian forum, with CULTISH (Mormon). teaching.

 

[Matthias]

“I will raise up a prophet from among their countrymen like you, and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I shall command him.

It shall come about that whoever will not listen to my words which he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.

But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in my name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.

You may say in your heart, ‘How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?’

When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.”

(Deuteronomy 18:15-22)

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Stay in God's Word as written. That is always what it comes down to.

One of the false prophet's methods is pulling a single verse out of God's written Word and applying meanings to it that are outside the flow and subject of the Bible Chapter.

One of the saddest workings today in some pulpits is just that, using a single verse to push a leaven doctrine from men.

Is it not OK to teach single verses about a certain Bible topic?

Yeah, it is OK IF... it keeps with the subject flow of the Bible Chapter where it appears. How you gonna' know whether the one teaching is doing that or not?

Simple, read and study the whole Chapter where the verse appears. After staying in the 'flow' of the Chapter, you'll know soon enough if the teacher is sticking to the Bible Chapter or instead pushing some made up dissertation they 'think' Jesus gave them authority to create out of thin air.

Bingo!!! If you don't know what the Bible says, you're "Fair game" for deception.

 

[Behold]

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When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.”
(Deuteronomy 18:15-22)

The reason we know that the BIBLE is true, is because it is filled with Old Testament prophecies, and all have come true, or will.

And that is exactly the proof of "the Prophet"., and that is what defines Mormonism to be cult...as their Prophet, Joseph Smith produced prophecies, that didnt come true., and this is not related to "needing more time".

 

[Heart2Soul]

"Signs, wonders, and miracles" were indeed apostolic gifts. And Paul said so: I am become a fool in glorying; ye have compelled me: for I ought to have been commended of you: for in nothing am I behind the very chiefest apostles, though I be nothing. Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds [miracles]. (2 Cor 12:11,12) This is confirmed in Hebrews 2.

Paul was telling the church that this is how to recognize a true apostle versus a false one. They were conduits for God to manifest signs, wonders and miracles through. My point is they themselves did not have any power without God. The gifts are His not theirs.

 

[Heart2Soul]

lets not do as some of the false prophets do and throw out Paul because they despise the Grace of God. Because they would prefer people kicking about in their blood.

This is an example...I just edited out "of course not" from your original post.

 

[Enoch111]

My point is they themselves did not have any power without God.

That is obvious. The point is that there were indeed "apostolic gifts" given to the apostles by God.

 

[Davy]

You are missing the context...
Ten Signs You Have A Religious Spirit - Mattera Ministries International
Quote: excerpt from the above link
In this article I am using the term “religion” to refer to man-made effort that utilizes works to please God. It is very easy to mistake being religious for having a relationship with God. All religions in the world are based on religion which is a man-made attempt to reach God. However, Christianity is supposed to involve having a genuine relationship with God (2 Corinthians 13:14). Unfortunately, it is very easy to unwittingly replace this precious relationship with a religious spirit (meaning a lifestyle or attitude), which is the default position of sinful human nature. The purpose of this article is to help people become self-aware, not to condemn or judge them. Hence, if you use this to judge others you yourself are guilty of one of the following signs.

This thread's topic is about false prophets, heretics, deceivers, whatever... one wishes to call one who pushes false doctrines against Christ and His Word. And my point is that by 'staying'... in God's Word for ourselves is how we recognize those false prophets creeping in. The matter is very simple.

Likewise, just how... do we get to know our Heavenly Father and His Son? By staying in His Word, for It is written of Him.

John 5:39
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of Me.
KJV

 

[Davy]

Bingo!!! If you don't know what the Bible says, you're "Fair game" for deception.

And THAT... is the heart... of my point! Thank You!

 

[Heart2Soul]

This thread's topic is about false prophets, heretics, deceivers, whatever... one wishes to call one who pushes false doctrines against Christ and His Word. And my point is that by 'staying'... in God's Word for ourselves is how we recognize those false prophets creeping in. The matter is very simple.

Likewise, just how... do we get to know our Heavenly Father and His Son? By staying in His Word, for It is written of Him.

John 5:39
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of Me.
KJV

I know what this thread is about and what I have shared is part of that.

 

[Heart2Soul]

That is obvious. The point is that there were indeed "apostolic gifts" given to the apostles by God.

The scriptures does not call them apostolic gifts..man does.

 

[Enoch111]

The scriptures does not call them apostolic gifts..man does.

Except that Paul was writing by divine inspiration. So it was not man but God who made the distinction. See Hebrews 2.

 

[Heart2Soul]

Except that Paul was writing by divine inspiration. So it was not man but God who made the distinction. See Hebrews 2.

Paul never called them apostolic gifts.

 

[Desire Of All Nations]

By definition a false prophet makes false or sinister predictions. A heretic just has false teachings. They're quite different. Confusing the terms is in fact heresy.

The Bible makes 0 distinction between a heretic and a false prophet because both spread lies while they pretend to speak on God's behalf. All it takes is 1 person who presumptuously thinks they possess the authority to teach other people or make a disciple out of them. That's how heresies spread.

 

[Aunty Jane]

The Bible makes 0 distinction between a heretic and a false prophet because both spread lies while they pretend to speak on God's behalf. All it takes is 1 person who presumptuously thinks they possess the authority to teach other people or make a disciple out of them. That's how heresies spread.

That makes Jesus the biggest heretic of all since he commanded his disciples...."Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” (Matthew 28:19-20)
It was not merely a recommendation....but a command. Lives are at stake.

He sent his disciples out to search for 'worthy ones' ...."And whatever town or village you enter, find out who is worthy in it and stay there until you depart. 12 As you enter the house, greet it. 13 And if the house is worthy, let your peace come upon it, but if it is not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14 And if anyone will not receive you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet when you leave that house or town." (Matthew 10:11-14)

We are commanded to search for those who are responsive to the 'kingdom' message, which was to continue to be "preached in all the inhabited earth as a witness to all the nations" until "the end of the age" (Matthew 24:14).....and if the people refused to listen, to shake the dust off our feet against them.....they are not 'worthy' in God's eyes.
No one can come to the Son without an invitation from his Father. (John 6:65)

 

[Davy]

All it takes is 1 person who presumptuously thinks they possess the authority to teach other people or make a disciple out of them. That's how heresies spread.

If that statement were true, then it would mean that The LORD does not call nor choose any... man with the authority to preach His Word!