People that fall for conspiracy theories are often the less educated

[dev553344]

He understood human nature and he understood the mothering instinct. Understanding these things, he proposed something outrageous and drew out the mothering instinct in the true mother and drew out the motive of the liar(stealing and killing and destroying) who was fine with the outrageous proposal.

I see your point about when parties lie. Like the old testament mothers and cutting a baby in half . And that is an interesting bible story that probably would be considered criminal in todays courts. But I'm not sure what use it has in courts that are fact finding in this day and age.

 

[Ziggy]

Update 2015-01-11: People seem confused as to what Bill Gates is doing. However, since he announced in 2012 he was going to “fix” agriculture in conjunction with Monsanto and Syngenta, and he’s buying up hundreds and thousands of contiguous acres at a time, it seems pretty clear he’s promoting corporate pesticided GMO agriculture.

Meanwhile, Bill Gates owns Cascade Investment LLC, which owns Los Arboles LLC, which changed its name to Cottonwood Ag Management LLC, which bought land in Echols County on the Alapahoochee River, a year after Bill Gates said he was going to fix agriculture in conjunction with Monsanto and Syngenta.
Cottonwood Ag Management | WWALS Watershed Coalition (WWALS) is Suwannee RIVERKEEPER®

This is what is called .. following the rabbit down the rabbit hole into Alice in Wonderland's territory.
Now Alice is Hillary Clinton, and eventually you will find that ALL rabbit holes lead to the Clinton Foundation one way or another.
Just sayin..

Hip hop hippety hop...

 

[Ziggy]

@Ziggy to be more specific about radio waves and the effect on atoms and therefore cells of cancer: The energy that holds an electron in orbit is in the UV wavelength of the electromagnetic frequency (Electromagnetic spectrum - Wikipedia). So that is where ionization begins. It is controlled by what is called the photoelectric effect (Photoelectric effect - Wikipedia). Basically they found that the radiation intensity didn't knock out electrons from an atom, but rather it was knocked out with shorter wavelength of the light. Einstein and Planck then developed the ideas that lead to break thru's in physics from the quantum theory of light. Basically you could turn up the volume on light and it still would not knock out electrons. But if you increased the frequency into and beyond the UV spectrum it would. And the higher the frequency the more energy the light had and further it knocked out the electrons.

So if the orbital energy that holds atoms together is in the UV spectrum, then only very tiny vibrations would happen with radio waves. It would not de-stabilize an atom or cancer cell. That is probably why it was rejected by the mainstream medical communities.

Now cancer cells are a form of life. And if you could prove that radio waves effect them on some living level, then you might have something. There is pest control that is sound waves and radio waves but it is unregulated and therefore lacks proper studies to support that it is effective. (Electronic pest control - Wikipedia). They do use some UV light to destroy fungal infections. But playing around with UV isn't necessarily safe as it is a form of ionizing radiation. And probably can cause cancer, especially skin cancer from sunlight exposure. (Skin Cancer Facts & Statistics):

"1 in 5 Americans will develop skin cancer by the age of 70. More than 2 people die of skin cancer in the U.S. every hour. Having 5 or more sunburns doubles your risk for melanoma."

So I don't see any evidence that supports that radio waves are effective in cancer treatments on the internet.

I only posted that article because it just popped up as we was discussing conspiracy theories, and I thought it was ironic. lol.
But thank you for sharing that knowledge regarding wavelengths.
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[stunnedbygrace]

I see your point about when parties lie. Like the old testament mothers and cutting a baby in half . And that is an interesting bible story that probably would be considered criminal in todays courts. But I'm not sure what use it has in courts that are fact finding in this day and age.

Well, you aren’t a court. You are just one man looking for truth. You said you follow the science to arrive at the truth. I was pointing out that the truth can be arrived at without science (and even despite science sometimes.) For instance, the theory was a flat earth, even though the Bible says in more than one place that it is round.
It’s not science that guides us to all truth is it? It’s the Holy Spirit who guides to all truth. Science flips and flops and theorizes and changes. Are eggs bad for me today or are they good for me today?

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Tsss your such a fool

People are being hurt by these needles

They are not safe and effective

They are being forced on people

Your just an inhumane animal to deny/justify that

Satan is running his show and many foolish people are abetting him

This is out of control.

 

[Ziggy]

Well, you aren’t a court. You are just one man looking for truth. You said you follow the science to arrive at the truth. I was pointing out that the truth can be arrived at without science (and even despite science sometimes.) For instance, the theory was a flat earth, even though the Bible says in more than one place that it is round.
It’s not science that guides us to all truth is it? It’s the Holy Spirit who guides to all truth. Science flips and flops and theorizes and changes.

I believe the bible says the Lord sits above the circle of the earth?
A plate is circular and still flat.
Not arguing, and I just like thinking about it.
Nothing I can do about it whether it be a plate or a ball anyways..

 

[dev553344]

Well, you aren’t a court. You are just one man looking for truth. You said you follow the science to arrive at the truth. I was pointing out that the truth can be arrived at without science (and even despite science sometimes.) For instance, the theory was a flat earth, even though the Bible says in more than one place that it is round.

Yes that is interesting. We all have the bible answers here on the forum and arrived at those truths thru what we would like to believe is a similar process to your old testament story, intuition or some communication with God. Yet there is just that, so many versions of Christianity here that they can't all be true.

I think perhaps if people trusted their own beliefs less and relied on evidence we would be at a different juncture today. Less conspiracy theories. Less variations on religion. Listening to the evidence in the bible and not tossing out truths to follow half truths in religion. And also that doesn't seem possible. People believe what they do and it varies vastly.

 

[Ziggy]

Yes that is interesting. We all have the bible answers here on the forum and arrived at those truths thru what we would like to believe is a similar process to your old testament story, intuition or some communication with God. Yet there is just that, so many versions of Christianity here that they can't all be true.

I think perhaps if people trusted their own beliefs less and relied on evidence we would be at a different juncture today. Less conspiracy theories. Less variations on religion. Listening to the evidence in the bible and not tossing out truths to follow half truths in religion. And also that doesn't seem possible. People believe what they do and it varies vastly.

That's what makes us unique.
We don't have herd mentality. We don't all head for the barn at milking time.
Some of us like to graze a little longer.

 

[dev553344]

I believe the bible says the Lord sits above the circle of the earth?
A plate is circular and still flat.
Not arguing, and I just like thinking about it.
Nothing I can do about it whether it be a plate or a ball anyways..

That might be true on some dimensional level. I've often thought of heaven as existing in this dimension, but I might be wrong and God may be working and living in some other area. So I think it's important to not discount the bible so that we can arrive at the truth that God tells us. But understanding God can be difficult.

 

[Ziggy]

That might be true on some dimensional level. I've often thought of heaven as existing in this dimension, but I might be wrong and God may be working and living in some other area. So I think it's important to not discount the bible so that we can arrive at the truth that God tells us. But understanding God can be difficult.

Well, if the earth is round, how can it have four corners?
I've heard that argument before as well?
And why were beards to be cut square, not rounding the edges??
I'm an American, and in America, anything is possible.. LOL
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[Dropship]

Flat earth? Nah..
"God hangs the earth on nothing" (Job 26:7)

 

[Brakelite]

Flat earth? Nah..
"God hangs the earth on nothing" (Job 26:7)

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Photoshop.

 

[Ziggy]

Now here's an interesting tidbit on the Cottonwood LLC that is purchasing land for Bill Gates.
Remember I began with N. Dakota, and the property he purchased is on the border with Canada:

Vertically Integrated Model
In-house expertise to develop, operate and value-add in large-scale real estate projects | Internal asset management and property management capabilities | Proprietary luxury lifestyle and concierge program tailored for residential and commercial users: Echelon Life™ | Cross-border distribution and sales capabilities

Now Trump passed the USCMA .. whaat is the US Canada and Mexico, that replaced the NAFTA deal right.
And this Cottonwood LLC has cross border distribution capabilities..
Is it possible that Bill Gates could use this LLC to bypass the USCMA agreement for his own purposes?
Undercutting US Policies?

These people think BIG, bigger than my knowledge or education could get me in a lifetime.
But you have to think like they think. What is the end game?
What do they always want to accomplish?
Power and Money and Control.

I may have only a 6th grade education, but I took my GED test without studying for it and passed with I think it was a 4. something average.
That's after being out of school for about 7 years and being a stay at home mom.
I've always had a curious mind. I've always wanted to know the unknowable.
Sometimes it can be a curse. You get something on your mind and you forget the world around you. Time flies, you forget to eat.
Although that's not so bad, I could lose some weight..

But this criminal mind stuff... how to think like a bad guy..
I don't like walking in those shoes, but in order to understand how they operate you have to think like they think.
At the same time wearing the armour of God keeping your own thoughts pure and clean and good.
Not becoming what it is your trying to figure out.
It must be difficult to be a psychiatrist or a psychologist.
Always trying to help other people's "minds" , while keeping your own seperate from getting swallowed up by emotions.

I just like the puzzles. I like connecting the dots. Uncovering mysteries. Unravelling prophecies.
Always wondering where the next turn will lead.

 

[Ziggy]

Flat earth? Nah..
"God hangs the earth on nothing" (Job 26:7)

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What about the pillars?

 

[Ziggy]

USMCA

 

[stunnedbygrace]

I believe the bible says the Lord sits above the circle of the earth?
A plate is circular and still flat.
Not arguing, and I just like thinking about it.
Nothing I can do about it whether it be a plate or a ball anyways..

Ah, but another verse says the orb of the earth. I don’t remember…I think it’s maybe in Job.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

Yes that is interesting. We all have the bible answers here on the forum and arrived at those truths thru what we would like to believe is a similar process to your old testament story, intuition or some communication with God. Yet there is just that, so many versions of Christianity here that they can't all be true.

Which brings us back to the thought that all (or most) of them have some partial truth. So once again, what conclusion and way of arriving at truth do you come to seeing as how they all have some, or partial truth?

 

[Ziggy]

couldn't find "orb" in the KJV but I found this:
What Does the Bible Say About The Earth Is A Sphere?

Isaiah 40:22 ESV / 213 helpful votes
It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;

Job 26:7 ESV / 133 helpful votes
He stretches out the north over the void and hangs the earth on nothing.

Job 26:10 ESV / 108 helpful votes
He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.

Proverbs 8:27 ESV / 92 helpful votes
When he established the heavens, I was there; when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,

Revelation 7:1 ESV / 53 helpful votes
After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.

Isaiah 11:12 ESV / 46 helpful votes
He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Job 22:14 ESV / 42 helpful votes
Thick clouds veil him, so that he does not see, and he walks on the vault of heaven.’

Ecclesiastes 1:6 ESV / 39 helpful votes
The wind blows to the south and goes around to the north; around and around goes the wind, and on its circuits the wind returns.

I like the one where he inscribes a circle on the face of the waters..
kind of reminds me of Jesus drawing in the sand... at the boundary between light and darkness.
When did he do this? At the time they were accusing the woman of adultery.. the boundary between punishment and forgiveness, death vs life.
Light vs darkness...
INTERSTING!
Hugs

 

[dev553344]

Which brings us back to the thought that all (or most) of them have some partial truth. So once again, what conclusion and way of arriving at truth do you come to seeing as how they all have some, or partial truth?

The Bible.

 

[stunnedbygrace]

couldn't find "orb" in the KJV but I found this:
What Does the Bible Say About The Earth Is A Sphere?

Isaiah 40:22 ESV / 213 helpful votes
It is he who sits above the circle of the earth, and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers; who stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them like a tent to dwell in;

Job 26:7 ESV / 133 helpful votes
He stretches out the north over the void and hangs the earth on nothing.

Job 26:10 ESV / 108 helpful votes
He has inscribed a circle on the face of the waters at the boundary between light and darkness.

Proverbs 8:27 ESV / 92 helpful votes
When he established the heavens, I was there; when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,

Revelation 7:1 ESV / 53 helpful votes
After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth, that no wind might blow on earth or sea or against any tree.

Isaiah 11:12 ESV / 46 helpful votes
He will raise a signal for the nations and will assemble the banished of Israel, and gather the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Job 22:14 ESV / 42 helpful votes
Thick clouds veil him, so that he does not see, and he walks on the vault of heaven.’

Ecclesiastes 1:6 ESV / 39 helpful votes
The wind blows to the south and goes around to the north; around and around goes the wind, and on its circuits the wind returns.

I like the one where he inscribes a circle on the face of the waters..
kind of reminds me of Jesus drawing in the sand... at the boundary between light and darkness.
When did he do this? At the time they were accusing the woman of adultery.. the boundary between punishment and forgiveness, death vs life.
Light vs darkness...
INTERSTING!
Hugs

Objects have more than one dimension. This becomes apparent when light hits them.