PinSeeker pretends to answer Challenge A:
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John 4:34,
John 5:23,
John 5:24,
John 5:30,
John 5:36,
John 5:37,
John 5:38,
John 6:29,
John 6:38,
John 6:39,
John 6:44,
John 6:57,
John 7:16,
John 7:18,
John 7:28,
John 7:29,
John 7:33,
John 8:16,
John 8:18,
John 8:26,
John 8:29,
John 8:42,
John 9:4,
John 10:36,
John 11:42,
John 12:44,
John 12:45,
John 12:49,
John 13:20,
John 14:24,
John 15:21,
John 16:5,
John 17:3,
John 17:8,
John 17:18,
John 17:21,
John 17:23,
John 17:25,
John 20:21.
"To be sent strongly implies pre-existence, which speaks to Christ's eternality, His equality, His deity, and His glory, and His perfect unity ~ all with the Father, from all eternity.
"The Spirit is also sent by the Father (in Christ's name), as Jesus clearly says in
John 14:26, and denotes all the same things.
"Really,
John 14:24, where Jesus says the Father sent Him, and
John 14:26, where Jesus says the Father will send (has sent, now, of course) is all that's needed to answer all five (A, B, C, D, and E) above.
"But like the writer of Hebrews says, what more shall I say? For time would fail me to tell of all the others..."
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Apparently you need someone to read for you and guide you. Here, again is Challenge A:
"(A) Please carefully and thoroughly search to find a vision, dream, or clear description in scripture wherein God is shown as more than one person."
Here is what I have found when searching the scriptures for visions of God:
Even though God has caused a representation of himself to be "seen" in dreams and visions, we still don’t know exactly what he "physically" looks like. Still, we should get some idea of the essential knowledge he wants us to know about himself from these inspired visions. We know that he always represents himself as a
single person seated on a throne.
For example, at
Ezekiel 1:5, 6, 26-28 we see God as he showed himself to Ezekiel in a vision.
"and in the fire was what looked like
four living creatures. In appearance their
rance of the likeness of the glory of [Jehovah]." -
Ezek. 1:26-28,
NIV.
Remember, we just had a description of spirit persons each of whom
looked like a man (except for having four faces). Now we have a description of another person who looks For example, at
Ezekiel 1:5, 6, 26-28 we see God as he showed himself to Ezekiel in a vision.
"and in the fire was what looked like
four living creatures. In appearance their form was that of a man,
but each of them had four faces..." -
Ezek. 1:5-6,
NIV.
Now if this had actually been the description of God, "multiple-oneness God" fans would have had the best proof ever for their passion: we would finally have some real evidence for a multiple-oneness God: a four-in-one God (a "Quadrinity")! But these four persons, each with four faces, represent God’s attendants (cherubim), not God. Each one represents 4 different aspects by its 4 faces. Can you imagine what would be said by trinitarians if God were similarly described as
three persons each with
three faces?!
The point is that God
could (and did) show a clear representation of "multiple-oneness" in vision to his inspired prophet, but he
never represented
himself in such a manner!
Notice that each of these living creatures was in appearance like
a man. And every aspect that differed from that of "a man" was carefully described.
Now notice the rest of the vision:
"Above the expanse over their heads was what looked like
a [single] throne of sapphire, and high above on the throne was
a [single] figure like that of
a [single]
man. I saw that from what appeared to be his waist [singular] up he looked like glowing metal, as if full of fire, and that from there down he looked like fire; and brilliant light surrounded him. Like the appearance of a rainbow in the clouds on a rainy day, so was the radiance around him. This was the appealike
a man. The differences from the appearance of a man are also noted but do not include anything that would make us think he was, in any way, anything more than a
single person! Not
three persons, not
three heads, not
three faces, etc.
(In fact, nowhere in the entire Bible is the
word "three" associated with a description of God! This simply would not be
if God were truly three persons!
)
God is a
single person, the Father alone, Jehovah.
Now let’s see Daniel’s vision of God:
"the Ancient of Days took his seat. His clothing was as white as snow; the hair of
his head [
singular] was white like wool.
His throne [singular] was flaming with fire, and its wheels were all ablaze." -
Dan. 7:9,
NIV.
Notice that, again, he looks like a
single person.
And then,
"one, like a
son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days [seated on the throne] and
was led into his presence." -
Dan. 7:13,
NIV.
So we see a single person seated on God’s throne and
another person (the Messiah) being led into
God’s presence.
Now let’s see the Apostle John’s vision which parallels Daniel’s vision:
"At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was
a throne in heaven with some
one sitting on it. And the
one who sat there had the appearance of jasper.... In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures.... Day and night they never stop saying: ‘Holy, holy, holy is the Lord
God Almighty...’ [and] ‘You are worthy, our Lord and God, ... for you created all things, and
by your will they were created....’ Then I saw in the right hand of
Him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides.... Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain.... He came and took the scroll from the right hand of
Him who sat on the throne." -
Rev. 4:2, 3, 6, 8, 11; 5:1, 6, 7,
NIV.
Again we see a single person on the throne who is God Almighty (Jehovah). And, again, we see the Christ
approach God on his throne. And we see this
one on the throne again at
Rev. 19:4.
(tbc)
