Can angels have sex?

[Timtofly]

No, Apostle John in 1 John 3:2, and Apostle Paul in Romans 8, declared that 'now', we are the "sons of God". That label indeed is about the heavenly order, but so is our spirit-soul that is in our flesh bodies while still walking upon this earth. At flesh death, our spirit with soul leaves our flesh, and our flesh is never needed after that (1 Corinthians 15:48-50).

Wrong again. Per God's Word, ALL... those in Christ Jesus today are the "sons of God", as I've already shown per Scripture above. It is true that angels are not humans, meaning not born in the flesh. But the Jude 6-7 Scripture suggests that the angels of Genesis 6 did leave their angelic station to go after 'strange flesh', so explain that difference.

You are just fishing, not staying in God's Word as written. There are many, many events that are unbelievable to the scientific thinking minds of today. In order to understand God's Word as written, it requires that we not limit God's ways to man's scientific thinking of this natural world, because God dwells outside this natural world He created, and He is a Spirit like Apostle John said in John 4.

The church in Paradise are all the sons of God. They did not stop being sons of God after leaving earth. You said they were sons of God on earth. Ok? They are still sons of God in Paradise after leaving earth.

Jude 1 declares this:

"And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day."

It was those in Sodom that went after strange flesh. The angels were not those people living in Sodom. The angels were bound in chains before Adam disobeyed or before the Flood. They never lived in Sodom.

You are fishing. All I posted is in Scripture. You are just too lazy to even prove your own points in Scripture, and even quoting the wrong verses.

Jude 1:7

"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

Do you remember Lot?

 

[Timtofly]

my question is …if angels are neither male nor female, and don’t marry, then how to they have same sex relations? Wouldn’t an angel have to be male to have same sex relations with another male?

which leads to another question
which is true?
1) all angels are male
2) angels are neither Male nor females, and don’t marry?
3)or both?

God created all angels at the beginning. There have been no new angels since Genesis 1. No angels have even died. A third of the angels have been bound in the pit, waiting to be released at the 5th Trumpet. No angels ever came to earth to procreate with humans, ever. They never lived in Sodom and Gomorrha.

Angels are the stars. Until they are messengers come to earth, sent by God in human form. They have always appeared as "male" when sent by God. Does any one know what a human looks like having no gender at all? From today's modern attempt to stop being either male or female, we think we can succeed to change God's creation. No one has been successful at coming up with a third gender. No one has created an angel out of a human. No one even seems to accept the angels are the stars.

 

[Timtofly]

if that is taken literal… what would that mean?

People trying to be self righteous.

 

[Timtofly]

Huh?

Up there they are spirit.
Up there we are spirit.

Down here they are physical.
Down here we are physical.

So what's different according to your statement?

We are Adam's dead flesh. We have no clue what the spiritual is even like. We are not even physically the same as those created on the 6th day in Genesis 1.

A son of God in the full image of God; body, soul, and spirit is equally physical and spiritual at the same time. They would look like this:

"And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light."

"And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."

"Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear."

That is being spiritual. Lights that shine brighter than the sun. Angels are physical. They provide the light of the stars.

We are broken. The rest of creation works fine as intended with no separation of the physical and spiritual.

Angels were a separate creation from humans, and they cannot procreate with humans period. The sons of God had offspring per Genesis 1:28

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth,"

The sons of God could multiply and have offspring. Many, many, many, generations later these sons of God procreated with Adam's fallen dead flesh offspring. They were giants (compared to us) but they did not fix Adam's dead flesh and make it whole again. It just made those giant offspring, sinners in Adam's fallen image.

You cannot take a good fruit and place it in a bushel of rotten fruit and make the rotten fruit good again. The sons of God could not change the outcome from the daughters of man on the inside, just because they looked great on the outside. Instead the whole bunch just became more wicked and had to be destroyed.

 

[Ziggy]

What is strange flesh?

Gen 42:7 And Joseph saw his brethren, and he knew them, but made himself strange unto them, and spake roughly unto them; and he said unto them, Whence come ye? And they said, From the land of Canaan to buy food.

Exo 21:8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

Strange flesh..

1Ki 11:1 But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites;

I'm thinking like interracial marriages.

Ezr 10:2 And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken strange wives of the people of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing.

Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

Sons of God:

Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Was Noah a son of God? Methuseleh? Enoch?

But Cain and his descendents were put out from the presence of the Lord.
So these would be the sons of Seth, which would cling to the Lord and become sons of God because they believed on his name.
While at the same time, Cain has gone into the world procreating men that did not believe in the name of the Lord.
Like Nimrod.
At some point the sons of Seth came into contact with the sons of Cain, and they thought their daughters were pretty and took them wives for themselves.
These women kind of like Solomon's wives (strange even) had their own gods, and they led the sons of God away from God, through idolatry.

Now these sons of God, intermingling with the daughters of men, became as lustful and corrupt in their own flesh as the men who did not know God.

Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

Eph 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Giants:
nᵉphîyl, nef-eel'; or נְפִל nᵉphil; from H5307; properly, a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant:—giant.

There were tyrants in those days. There is a semi colon there. That means you have to give a pause.
and also....
after that...
after what?
After there were tyrants in those days.
The sons of God intermingled with the daughters of men and they had kids.
These kids grew up to become mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Deu 2:20 (That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
Deu 2:21 A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the LORD destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead:

Zamzôm, zam-zome'; from H2161; intriguing; a Zamzumite, or native tribe of Palestine:—Zamzummim.
Zamzummims = "plotters"

Definition of plotter
one that plots: such as
a: a person who schemes or conspires

So the kids grew up to become tyrants and schemers and plotters like Cain.
Except these ones were tall. And they made the israelites look like grasshoppers in comparison.
I have no problem with literal giants, very tall people existing in the world.
Some of these basketball players we got today, make me look like an ant.

I don't believe a "supernatural" race of beings came in contact with mere humans however.

I believe the story is regarding believers and unbelievers getting yoked together and creating kids that 1/2 believe and 1/2 don't.
Superstitious even. Mixing together God's knowledge with man's knowledge.
Like mixing iron with clay.

2Co 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

It's raining today.
Hugs

 

[Davy]

The church in Paradise are all the sons of God.

That idea is simply your 'theory'. It is not written that those in Christ must be dead today and in Paradise in order to be called the "sons of God."

You are denying the 1 John 3 Scripture.

 

[Timtofly]

Sons of God:

Jhn 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
Rom 8:14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

Was Noah a son of God? Methuseleh? Enoch?

But Cain and his descendents were put out from the presence of the Lord.
So these would be the sons of Seth, which would cling to the Lord and become sons of God because they believed on his name.
While at the same time, Cain has gone into the world procreating men that did not believe in the name of the Lord.
Like Nimrod.

Close, but Noah and whoever accepted the Atonement of the Cross had to wait in a section of sheol, Jesus called Abraham's bosom, until the Cross. Then they were given a physical resurrection. They received the permanent incorruptible physical body of a son of God. They are currently enjoying Paradise.

Those mentioned in Hebrews 11, are certainly sons of God. We would only be speculating on who else were "sons of God" in the OT. Sure, not all the prophets, were mentioned by name, but they would be the unnamed in that chapter.

Sons of God would be all humans, physically. But Noah was in Adam's fallen image. All humans after that had to be restored into God's image as sons of God. Many declare the Noahide law about humans killing humans, means we are all still sons of God in God's full image.

Yes, Adam was created a son of God. But when Adam disobeyed God, he was literally no longer a son of God, but dead corruptible flesh.

So many claim we are in God's image while declaring we are not sons of God. That is contradictory. Being a son of God is being in the full image of God. There is literally no verse in Scripture that contradicts that fact. Only a lot of bad Scriptural interpretation.

As many as received the Atonement, are adopted into the family of God as sons of God. Upon entering Paradise we receive God's permanent incorruptible physical body as a son of God. 2 Corinthians 5:1

There were tyrants in those days. There is a semi colon there. That means you have to give a pause.
and also....

How does tyrant equate to this:

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth."

These would have to be Godly tyrants. Not usually seen as synonyms, but then socialists and communist see dominion as being wicked and evil. Although they seem to have a one guy show acting as a tyrannical dictator.

 

[Timtofly]

That idea is simply your 'theory'. It is not written that those in Christ must be dead today and in Paradise in order to be called the "sons of God."

You are denying the 1 John 3 Scripture.

You are deceived thinking you currently have a perfect sin free nature. You are deceiving yourself thinking you currently have a permanent incorruptible physical body.

The soul literally has to leave Adam's dead flesh behind and enter God's permanent incorruptible physical body.

"For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens."

Adam's dead flesh has to dissolve first, no?

In fact your verse states:

"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is."

Ever heard of "in name only"?

You preach we will be "in name only" until the end of the Millennium. How does "your opinion" change the current condition of those in Paradise since 30AD? Your opinion does not change God's reality one iota. There were sons of God in heaven back when Job lived. They were not angels. They were those humans created on the 6th Day.

I pointed out humans are the sons of God because of 1 John 3. Currently humans are not sons of God because Adam disobeyed God and physically died. We are born in Adam's dead flesh.

 

[FHII]

We are Adam's dead flesh. We have no clue what the spiritual is even like. We are not even physically the same as those created on the 6th day in Genesis 1.

A son of God in the full image of God; body, soul, and spirit is equally physical and spiritual at the same time. They would look like this:

"And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light."

"And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever."

"Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear."

That is being spiritual. Lights that shine brighter than the sun. Angels are physical. They provide the light of the stars.

We are broken. The rest of creation works fine as intended with no separation of the physical and spiritual.

Angels were a separate creation from humans, and they cannot procreate with humans period. The sons of God had offspring per Genesis 1:28

"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth,"

The sons of God could multiply and have offspring. Many, many, many, generations later these sons of God procreated with Adam's fallen dead flesh offspring. They were giants (compared to us) but they did not fix Adam's dead flesh and make it whole again. It just made those giant offspring, sinners in Adam's fallen image.

You cannot take a good fruit and place it in a bushel of rotten fruit and make the rotten fruit good again. The sons of God could not change the outcome from the daughters of man on the inside, just because they looked great on the outside. Instead the whole bunch just became more wicked and had to be destroyed.

Thank you for attempting to clear that up. While interesting, there are many flaws in this theory.

First: We are not in God's image. Adam was created in God's image. He was created a spiritual being, both male and female and was immortal. He then was given an earthly body and Woman was taken from his side. He had no blood, but the breath of God sustained him. He then fell to mortality. We are in Adam's fallen image, which is flesh and blood and mortal. HE was a son of God. We are sons of men. Spiritually, we are sons of God and spiritual (that's the inner or new man Paul speaks of).

Second: while the theory that the sons of God in Genesis 6 is a common one, it's highly improbable at best and impossible at least. This is because the Cain linage and Seth linage most likely had already mixed with each other and other humans if there were any. Before you protest that, first remember that Adam had other sons and daughters after Seth. Second, consider that there may have been human like beasts created already (not popular, I know). And third, please explain to me who Cain married after he moved far away. While you are at it, you will have to tell me who Seth married.

Three: Genesis 6 doesn't happen right after Seth was born, grew up and had children. It starts out saying, "and it came to pass.. " thousands of years had already passed. Knowing that there was intermingling happening, in Gen 6 is when things finally changed.

That leads to number four: after Gen 6, giants were born and men of renown. Again, intermingling was already happening, so it's not a feasible theory that the sons of God in the 6th chapter were merely a pure bred Seth linage that would produce giants and men of renown.

Last point: the phrase "son of God" or the plural variation doesn't appear often in the OT. 6 times, to be exact. Every time they are mentioned they are doing things extraordinary. In the NT, we are given that spiritual power through the Jesus. There is no indication that the Seth linage had such power physically to produce giants and men of renown.

IN SHORT

We are created in the image of fallen Adam and not God, the Seth linage was not pure and thus not a physical or even spiritual son of God linage and there was a drastic and sudden change in Genesis 6. If the sons of God in Genesis 6 were not angels, they were clearly something not of this world.

 

[Ziggy]

Was Melchisedek an Angel?

Heb 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
Heb 7:2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
Heb 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
Heb 7:4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

He had no father or mother, no lineage, no beginning and no end.
And yet he was made like unto the Son of God and is called a man of greatness.

Who ministered the law?
Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law, ) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

Act 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers:
Act 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.

The bible interprets the word angel.
Greek:
ággelos, ang'-el-os; from ἀγγέλλω aggéllō (probably derived from G71; compare G34) (to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an "angel"; by implication, a pastor:—angel, messenger.

Hebrew:
mălʼâk, mal-awk'; from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):—ambassador, angel, king, messenger.

In the OT The Levitical Priesthood are the angels who disposed the law to the people.
Disposition:
diatagḗ, dee-at-ag-ay'; from G1299; arrangement, i.e. institution:—instrumentality.

There are angels in all the churches today, I won't say they are all good. A lot of them only appear as light.
These "angels" are people who are placed in the church to be pastors, and priests, and teachers, etc..

If you yourself hold a position in a church you are also an angel:

Eph 4:11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
Eph 4:12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Who is this angel of the Lord that came up from Gilgal?
Jdg 2:1 And an angel of the LORD came up from Gilgal to Bochim, and said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you.
Jdg 2:2 And ye shall make no league with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall throw down their altars: but ye have not obeyed my voice: why have ye done this?
Jdg 2:3 Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.

It is Joshua:

Jos 10:6 And the men of Gibeon sent unto Joshua to the camp to Gilgal, saying, Slack not thy hand from thy servants; come up to us quickly, and save us, and help us: for all the kings of the Amorites that dwell in the mountains are gathered together against us.
Jos 10:7 So Joshua ascended from Gilgal, he, and all the people of war with him, and all the mighty men of valour.
Jos 10:9 Joshua therefore came unto them suddenly, and went up from Gilgal all night.

Was Joshua an Ambassador of the Lord? What was Joshua's role after Moses died?
Jos 1:1 Now after the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spake unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses' minister, saying,
Jos 1:2 Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel.
Jos 1:3 Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses.

Jos 1:8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Jos 1:16 And they answered Joshua, saying, All that thou commandest us we will do, and whithersoever thou sendest us, we will go.
Jos 1:17 According as we hearkened unto Moses in all things, so will we hearken unto thee: only the LORD thy God be with thee, as he was with Moses.
Jos 1:18 Whosoever he be that doth rebel against thy commandment, and will not hearken unto thy words in all that thou commandest him, he shall be put to death: only be strong and of a good courage.

Disposition:
diatagḗ, dee-at-ag-ay'; from G1299; arrangement, i.e. institution:—instrumentality.

The Disposition or institution, the structure had now passed from Moses to Joshua.

Today we live according to the dispensation given to the Apostles.
These began arranging and structuring today's church.
All of these people (saints) are the angels of the Lord.
We are the 10,000 and thousands of thousands that march beside the Lord.

Can we have sex? Can we have children? Can we abstain from sex to stay focused on Godly things rather than worldy things?

I believe it is Timothy or James that begins the reconstruction of the roles Deacons aught to have.
One wife, obedient children, not given to strong drink, not teaching for filthy lucre sake.
This is a formation.. not unlike what Nimrod began to with the tower of Babel.
The difference being, one is based on Belief and Faith in God, the other is based on the world.
These two kingdoms been battling throughout all of humanity.
It is God's word vs. the serpents word in the beginning, in the garden.

 

[Ziggy]

Rev 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
Rev 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

mălʼâk, mal-awk'; from an unused root meaning to despatch as a deputy; a messenger; specifically, of God, i.e. an angel (also a prophet, priest or teacher):—ambassador, angel, king, messenger.

2Co 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Enoch was God's messenger before Moses. Enoch taught the people the things God showed him.
He spoke to the children concerning the Lord coming with 10,000 of his saints.
Enoch who walked with God, and was not.
Melchisedek who was God's High Priest and King of Salem.
Moses who led the children out of Egypt and gave Israel the law. And administered ordinances for them to follow.
Joshua, who was elevated to lead the children of Israel.
David who became King.
The Prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Hosea, Amos.. these are all angels of the Lord.

But all the laws were broken, and the hope of God, the remembrance of God, was as it were a dream in a handful of people.
Even a stranger, a woman at the well, had heard rumour that one day a messiah would come.
How many still had faith, how many still held onto the promises? How many had hope?
Until Jesus came, and got those dead bones moving again.

And Jesus began to do again what he had done upon Mt. Sinai, only this time there was a new administration.
Jesus is the same messenger that spoke to Moses and showed him the temple and how to build the church.
Jesus is the same messenger that spoke with the disciples and Paul on how to rebuild the church, without a physical structure, based solely on the spirit of God and the spirit of man, becoming one. (This is the marriage of the lamb)
Jesus is the Word and all things came by him and for him, to rebuild his Kingdom.
And in his kingdom we are the angels and the saints. The teachers and the babes.
For such is the kingdom of God.

Hugs

 

[Timtofly]

IN SHORT

We are created in the image of fallen Adam and not God, the Seth linage was not pure and thus not a physical or even spiritual son of God linage and there was a drastic and sudden change in Genesis 6. If the sons of God in Genesis 6 were not angels, they were clearly something not of this world.

That is basically what I said. The point is the million dollar answer, and you will not accept it without understanding at first. Then you may just reject it altogether. It makes more sense, but goes against thousands of years of human understanding.

The answer is simple and written right there in Genesis 1 and 2.

The first point is that there was no death until Adam disobeyed. You already reject that in your post:

Adam was created in God's image. He was created a spiritual being, both male and female and was immortal. He then was given an earthly body and Woman was taken from his side. He had no blood, but the breath of God sustained him. He then fell to mortality. We are in Adam's fallen image, which is flesh and blood and mortal.

Adam was not immortal. That is your first Greek mythological error inserted in Scripture. You then add to this mythology by saying he was given an earthly body without blood. Those on the 6th day were created as mentioned in chapter 2 about Adam. Adam was not a separately created human from those on the 6th day, nor was Adam the only human created on the 6th Day or any other day.

So all Adam's offspring had other humans outside of the Garden to marry. In fact, if Adam had not sinned we would have seen Adam requesting daughters from those created on the 6th Day as wives for His sons. That is what Abraham did when he sent his servant away to find a wife for Issac. He did not make Isaac mary a sibling or a servant, nor one of Ishmael's offspring.

It is you who come up with more bizarre theories than me. Scripture plainly teaches multiple humans were created on the 6th day, not just one single human, later given an earthly body, who then sinned and had blood.

Now notice there were lots of humans, and I think Adam was just another human at that point. Eve was definitely not around on the 6th day. The 6th day only had 12 hours of sunlight. They did not even have enough time to give themselves names and say hello. Unless they communicated telepathically without speech in some ultra fast understandable fashion.

No, they all had plenty of time on the Sabbath Day to have many generations of offspring, as the Sabbath Day was a Lord's Day, and Peter explained what that meant, when he said do not be ignorant in 2 Peter 3:8

"And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens,"

Notice that generations are plural, and Day is singular. While the first 6 days were litral 24 hour days, this "7th day" was called the Day the Lord Made. A Day with the Lord is 1,000 years and 1,000 years as a Day. God let creation have a Millennium without death. It was God allowing creation to do as intended. The coming Day of the Lord is a Millennium where once again God will allow creation to do as God intended.

Satan will be bound for 1,000 years. Satan was not allowed to rebel for the first 1,000 years. Satan literally had 1,000 years to sit and think. And what he thought up would effect the 6,000 years humans have had, and will end soon, of sin and death.

You can call that my opinion or totally reject it. Many cannot accept that death and sin were withheld for 1,000 years. Adam was not a special creation as you asserted, but lived for 1,000 years as did all the other humans.

You can call that being immortal as all of Greek mythology claims. I will stick with the point Adam was a created son of God and had a permanent incorruptible physical body, a soul, and a spirit, a "robe of white" as John puts it in Revelation 6. The full image of God. Same physical blood and bone body we do, the only difference is his body was permanent and incorruptible. Our body is temporal and corruptible. They both functioned the same, except his was 100% efficient without much waste if any, who knows? They were considered giants compared to us. Some of that genetics was handed down through Noah and the wives of his 3 sons and even his wife. The genetic structure was there, even after Adam physically died and was given a temporal, corruptible body. Adam did live over 900 years. He had something going for him, even in a corruptible body. At the Flood, God adjusted this corruptible body, and allowed it only 120 years. Yet even Noah lived another 350 years after the Flood.

The point being that while God stopped creating and let creation work without death for 1,000 years, a lot of things did happen during that time. They just don't relate to us today, and not really to those after the Flood. It was a different heaven and earth after the Flood. It started to be a different earth after sin and death. But if you want to know where people came from, they lived on earth for 1,000 years. And quite comfortably, as opposed to the 1500 years after Adam disobeyed God. It was then everything became corrupt and wicked in God's sight.

Many will attempt to fit everything into 36 hours or less, like the eschatology of many who deny a future Day of the Lord. Yes things changed every 1,000 years or so since creation. This is not your public school taught change where things gradually evolved over millions of years; Satan's answer to Peter's scoffers. It is no longer that there was no change. It is that change was not noticeable. Of course change was noticeable, happened more often, and in some cases drastically killing millions if not billions at one time.

 

[Timtofly]

Was Melchisedek an Angel?

Heb 7:1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
Heb 7:2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
Heb 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
Heb 7:4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

This was Shem. Shem was still alive when Abraham moved into his neighborhood. Shem lived for 502 years after the Flood. Genesis 11:10-11

"These are the generations of Shem: Shem was an hundred years old, and begat Arphaxad two years after the flood: And Shem lived after he begat Arphaxad five hundred years, and begat sons and daughters."

Shem was born about 100 years before the Flood. Shem would have carried on the tradition of Abel and Noah as the "alter keeper". By the time Abraham lived, no one remembered who Noah and his wife were; Shem's father and mother. Remember that at the tower of Babel at one point in Shem's long life all people were given different languages and spread out across the earth. Not every one kept up the teachings and warnings Noah and his family witnessed. Abraham was called out of Ur just in time to go and meet Shem. Issac and Jacob would have been handed the responsibility after Shem passed away.

 

[ewq1938]

Thank you for attempting to clear that up. While interesting, there are many flaws in this theory.

First: We are not in God's image. Adam was created in God's image. He was created a spiritual being, both male and female and was immortal.

None of that is true. Adam was not a spiritual being, he was male not male and female, and he was not immortal.

 

[ewq1938]

First: We are not in God's image.

Wrong again.

1Co 11:7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

 

[JohnPaul]

If Angels could not have sex, then how do you explain the Nephilim?

No one seems to want to answer my question.

Nephilim were offspring of Angels having sex with women.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Nephilim were offspring of Angels having sex with women.

Unscriptural nonsense.

First of all, speak English.

There were giants in the earth.

So what.

Why do you concern yourself with vain things not explicitly stated in the Bible and make a mountain out of a molehill?

Focus on righteousness, holiness, and mercy.

 

[JohnPaul]

Unscriptural nonsense.

First of all, speak English.

There were giants in the earth.

So what.

Why do you concern yourself with vain things not explicitly stated in the Bible and make a mountain out of a molehill?

Focus on righteousness, holiness, and mercy.

Excuse me, speak English, what language am I speaking?

Not scriptural then what is Genesis 6:4?

Your post sounds nasty.

You need to focus on being polite.

And who's making a mountain out of a mole hill, I think you're doing that.

You need to learn English, you said there were Giants in the Earth, it's supposed to be there were Giants on the Earth.

 

[Michiah-Imla]

you said there were Giants in the Earth, it's supposed to be there were Giants on the Earth.

“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” (Genesis 6:4)

What’s wrong with people these days?

Nasty?

If you think I am “nasty” how do you cope in this evil world?

By the way, the King James Bible is a much better translation than the one you have - “nephalim”… the ASV translators didn’t translate that word for you…

 

[JohnPaul]

“There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.” (Genesis 6:4)

What’s wrong with people these days?

Nasty?

If you think I am “nasty” how do you cope in this evil world?

By the way, the King James Bible is a much better translation than the one you have - “nephalim”… the ASV translators didn’t translate that word for you…

The Bible I read says Nephilim, in the Earth means inside the Earth not dwelling on top unless the were underground Giants.

And yes you are nasty and disrespectful.

This is a Christian forum, while on the forum show respect, I deal with the real world accordingly.