Acts 2:38 has been abandoned by Christianity

[Charlie24]

Don't you find it strange that Christ spoke more of salvation than anyone, but yet He never spoke of water baptism for salvation, but only believing. And furthermore, Christ never baptized anyone in water.

If He is the Saviour, why did He not baptize anyone in water?

 

[Truther]

BORING!!!

How long hath I been with thee and you still don't know Acts 2:38, Jim?

 

[Truther]

Don't you find it strange that Christ spoke more of salvation than anyone, but yet He never spoke of water baptism for salvation, but only believing. And furthermore, Christ never baptized anyone in water.

If He is the Saviour, why did He not baptize anyone in water?

Oh boy....

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.


Jesus said that.

Can I give you a Bible study, Charlie?

 

[user]

LOL, that is your reading in the Blood is applied in water baptism.

It does not say that!

It says "and he who believes not will be damned." It does not say "and he who is not water baptized will be damned."

Let's take a look...


Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Note the above baptism must be mixed with faith or is invalid (not believing at all).
The verse is saying a nonbeliever can not be saved until he/she believes, and upon believing is then baptized "shall be saved"

 

[Truther]

Let's take a look...


Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Note the above baptism must be mixed with faith or is invalid (not believing at all).
The verse is saying a nonbeliever can not be saved until he/she believes, and upon believing is then baptized "shall be saved"

Thus, the non believer obviously won't be baptized and is damned.

 

[user]

Don't you find it strange that Christ spoke more of salvation than anyone, but yet He never spoke of water baptism for salvation, but only believing. And furthermore, Christ never baptized anyone in water.

If He is the Saviour, why did He not baptize anyone in water?

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John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

 

[Charlie24]

Let's take a look...


Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Note the above baptism must be mixed with faith or is invalid (not believing at all).
The verse is saying a nonbeliever can not be saved until he/she believes, and upon believing is then baptized "shall be saved"

Which scribe down through the centuries copied Mark 16:16 and Acts 2:38 to their liking?

I say that because Jesus, Paul, John, James, never said a word about it.

Isn't that strange?

 

[Truther]

Notice, Jesus never said unbelievers will be baptized.

Acts skippers made that one up...LOL

 

[Truther]

Which scribe down through the centuries copied Mark 16:16 and Acts 2:38 to their liking?

I say that because Jesus, Paul, John, James, never said a word about it.

Isn't that strange?

Jesus did not quote Mark 16:16?

 

[Jim B]

You skipped Acts 2:38.

You are not of the 3000.

You are of a different group.

This group opposes Acts 2:38.

They are called "Acts Skippers".

You need to join Act Skippers Anonymous(ASA) and stay away from those folks that fight Acts.

BORING!!!

 

[Jim B]

Notice, Jesus never said unbelievers will be baptized.

Acts skippers made that one up...LOL

BORING!!!

 

[Charlie24]

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John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

Read on!

John 4:2

"(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)"

 

[Charlie24]

Jesus did not quote Mark 16:16?

The scribe said He did! But does that align with the Jesus of the rest of the Gospels?

 

[Jim B]

Jesus did not quote Mark 16:16?

The last part of Mark 16 was added to the Bible at a later date by an overzealous scribe. Why don't you understand what is actual Scripture and what isn't? Go ahead, play with deadly snakes and drink poison if you actually believe what it says.

Mark 16:18, "they will pick up snakes with their hands, and whatever poison they drink will not harm them".

 

[Truther]

The scribe said He did! But does that align with the Jesus of the rest of the Gospels?

Yes.

3 of the 4 gospels included the great commission, which Mark was part of.

 

[Truther]

The last part of Mark 16 was added to the Bible at a later date by an overzealous scribe. Why don't you understand what is actual Scripture and what isn't? Go ahead, play with deadly snakes and drink poison if you actually believe what it says.

Mark 16:18, "they will pick up snakes with their hands, and whatever poison they drink will not harm them".

Mark skipper!

 

[Charlie24]

Yes.

3 of the 4 gospels included the great commission, which Mark was part of.

What we have here is a total and complete lack of respect for God's redemption plan!

According to you, water baptism is necessary to enter into that redemption plan.

That makes water baptism equal to the Blood of Christ for that redemption.

Let it be known, I will have no part in blasphemy!

 

[Jim B]

Mark skipper!

John 8:31-32, "Then Jesus said to those Judeans who had believed him, “If you continue to follow my teaching, you are really my disciples and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

You are clearly deceived. You believe the addition to Mark's gospel that is not part of the original. I am not skipping Mark, I am simply ignoring what is not an actual part of his gospel.

Your "skipper" nonsense is getting really tiresome! You are the one who isn't accepting what the Bible says in context. You are clearly deceived!

Get a better Bible!!!

 

[user]

According to you, water baptism is necessary to enter into that redemption plan.

Actually it is according to God...

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

 

[Charlie24]

Actually it is according to God...

John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Look user, I believe that a man should do what he thinks is right according to the written Word of God!

That is what I'm going to do and expect you to do the same!