Is your Faith in the Bible or is it in God?

[atpollard]

even with the Bible you could not prove that Jesus was Eternal life...

1 John 5:20 [NASB95]

And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.​

 

[atpollard]

prove, with out the using the Bible, that you have faith in God?

1. Why would anyone want to do that? What would be the potential purpose of such an exercise?
2. How would anyone “prove” something as metaphysical as “faith in God”? A mathematical proof? A logical proof? A scientific proof by empirical experimentation with repeatable results?

 

[Bible Highlighter]

prove, with out the using the Bible, that you have faith in God?

That's not how it works. I don't have to prove I have faith in God without the Bible because God's Word says that is where we get our faith from for today (Romans 10:17) (2 Timothy 3:16). If you reject His words, then you are rejecting the one true God.

Really on the "The Bible is How we are able to have faith in God"... so without the Bible you no longer have faith???

Under our current time in history.... yes.

No Bible means... no faith.
GOD has revealed to us through His Word and that is the Holy Bible.
You won't find any other holy words, books, visions, meditations, or voices that compare to God's amazing Word (the Bible). There are many evidences which show that God's Word is divine in origin.

Check out my Blogger article here:

Love Branch: Evidences for the Word of God

How is rejecting the Bible rejecting God???

John 12:48
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”

Isaiah 8:20
“To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.”

Please answer without using the Bible please... if your faith were in God Himself you would not need the Bible...

That would be like saying you want it to rain without it being wet. Things are the way they are. You have not been born again by the Word (the Holy Bible), and you did not have a life altering experience with the Bible showing to you that God has spoke to you profoundly by His Word (the Bible). So this is why you doubt. YOU need to take that step of faith to believe God's Holy Word the Bible first before you can see.

Check out this tract here for God's plan of salvation (According to His Word):

Chick.com: This Was Your Life

For if it is not the God of the Bible, then one can choose the god of the Muslims, or the god of Buddha, or a false version of Jesus, etcetera. You can create a god of your own imagination but that would not be God as described in God's Holy Word.

Faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God, are you saying that God Himself is incapable of talking to you???

Do I have a more sure word or prophecy beside the Bible??? yes I do, it comes from God Himself....

Sorry. If you don't endorse the God of the Bible and adhere to His Word (i.e. you don't abide in the doctrine of Christ), then you have not God (in your life).

1 John 2:9
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.”

 

[BloodBought 1953]

without using the Bible, explain how your faith needs to be in the Bible as well as with God..

Despite your request, I am going to use the Bible, because Paul warned us about guys like you—— “ Abstain from the Stupid Arguments put forth by Unlearned Fool’s , they only lead to Trouble” ... (2 Tim 2:23 )

 

[ChristisGod]

Despite your request, I am going to use the Bible, because Paul warned us about guys like you—— “ Abstain from the Stupid Arguments put forth by Unlearned Fool’s , they only lead to Trouble” ... (2 Tim 2:23 )

That is like saying without using the US constitution explain it. An oxymoron.

 

[thelord's_pearl]

My faith is in the Holy Bible and therefore I believe in a tri-une God too

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Then your faith is in the Bible and not God...

And your contention is that that we would not be wise to do that ?

It’s Wise in the same sense that a man who is about to build a nice, functioning house hangs on to his Blueprints....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

The Bible is a road-map or pointer to God.

Of course! The average 5 year old has that much figured out....( it’s like “shooting fish in a barrel” in these Forums sometimes, isn’t it? )

 

[BloodBought 1953]

and how do you know that God walked and talked with them??? who told you that God talked and talked with them??

“ All Scripture is God- Breathed and is useful for REBUKING, etc....” 2 Tim 3:16...... that’s why it must be pulled out despite your nonsensical pleadings...The Very Book that your cockiness drives you to disdain is many steps ahead of you ....nice try though!

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I actually figured it out... you think you will find eternal life in the Bible... even though eternal life is no where in the Bible... unless you want to call Jesus a liar... I mean you claim him to be God Himself,,, that would mean that you call God Himself a liar.... interesting

Just when you think he can get no Loonier —- he gets LOONIER! Lol....
Simply amazing....He behaves as if Stupidity were a Virtue....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

What exactly do you have against the Bible? The Bible is God's word, His message to all people.

Your posts are the expression of your thoughts. Why should I pay any attention to them? They're just words on my screen.

How do I know that you really exist?

You made an excellent post....*but!*........can you explain it again and this time not use letters and words....lol....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

If you need the Bible for Guidance then your faith is in the Bible and not God Himself...

The Bible is “chock- full” of Guidance and Instruction—-“Whoever IGNORES INSTRUCTION despises Himself” ( Psalms ) ....Thanks now to the Bible, I understand what your “real” Problem is —- you must despise, or Hate yourself..... what a shame...

 

[BloodBought 1953]

sarcasm doesn't suit you at all...

Answer my question please..

Excuse me, but I actually Admire his Sarcasm ! Taking easy jabs at your silliness is the only appeal left in this farcical thread....

Keep up the good work, Mich.....I think this thread is getting close to it’s pathetic end.....Shooting Fish in a Barrel can be fun for awhile, but it gets old fast.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I’m stuck in a time warp like Bill Murray in the film Groundhog Day.

And not making “ near” as much money as Murray was while “he” was Stuck.....lol...

 

[BloodBought 1953]

it is called Faith in God.. if I were out in the middle of nowhere and there were two directions to go and one lead to death and the other to safety, God will always lead me to safety..

You seem to be oblivious to the fact that you have an extremely powerful and dangerous ENEMY who is is doing his damnedest to “ Devour “ you—— and he WILL lest you get proper Guidance....A “ Guidance” that can ONLY be obtained by becoming “ A good Student Of The WORD!” One that has “ NO NEED to be ASHAMED!”......

Notice it does not say to stand around dreamily and just let it all “ come to you”, which seems to be your misguided approach to the things of God.....

God demands that we “Rightly Divide” His Holy Word.......The “ Good Student” READS the Word, does his best to understand it and STUDIES it! You are merely a lazy, Poor Student Of God's Word who has ignorantly rationalized that he does not have to follow God’s Command and put forth any Effort....as God has warned—— you WILL “ Stand Ashamed” .....of course, there are always those that “ have” no shame....
Time for you to stop playing your little Semantic Games and start acting like a Berean and avoid the Shame that is heading your way.....

 

[heartwashed]

In answer to the OP question:

both.

The Bible is the word of God (clearly);

so if anyone does not believe in the Bible they do not believe in God as He has revealed Himself to us.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

I answered this question in Post #2!



A Christian without a Bible is like a Cop without a gun.

Or like a man who is engaged in a Spiritual Battle for his very Soul and chooses to refuse any Ammunition .....and “ This” Battle is a REAL one ! It doesn’t get any more serious than this ! The outcome will determine Heaven or Hell....My advice is to get your nose in that Bible and get all the “ Spiritual Armor” That you can get ! (Ephes 6:10) ......or you can choose to do battle with our unseen Wicked Enemies Of The Spiritual World with no Protection....It ain’t gonna fall into your lap like you think it is...Good Luck with your War “ strategy “.....If indeed you “have” any Faith, you are about to get it “ shipwrecked” unless you Wake Up to the Truth Of The Bible That you choose to ignore....

 

[True Faith]

@True Faith

Did Jesus bear Gods wrath and was He forsaken ?

NO Jesus did not bear Gods wrath at all because Jesus did no wrong...

 

[True Faith]

Before the Bible God spoke to man by the prophets. Read the BIBLE and learn!

I rest my case with you... the bible is not needed to have a connection with God or to have faith in God... or to attain eternal life...

 

[True Faith]

You seem to be oblivious to the fact that you have an extremely powerful and dangerous ENEMY who is is doing his damnedest to “ Devour “ you—— and he WILL lest you get proper Guidance....A “ Guidance” that can ONLY be obtained by becoming “ A good Student Of The WORD!” One that has “ NO NEED to be ASHAMED!”......

Notice it does not say to stand around dreamily and just let it all “ come to you”, which seems to be your misguided approach to the things of God.....

God demands that we “Rightly Divide” His Holy Word.......The “ Good Student” READS the Word, does his best to understand it and STUDIES it! You are merely a lazy, Poor Student Of God's Word who has ignorantly rationalized that he does not have to follow God’s Command and put forth any Effort....as God has warned—— you WILL “ Stand Ashamed” .....of course, there are always those that “ have” no shame....
Time for you to stop playing your little Semantic Games and start acting like a Berean and avoid the Shame that is heading your way.....

In answer to the OP question:

both.

The Bible is the word of God (clearly);

so if anyone does not believe in the Bible they do not believe in God as He has revealed Himself to us.

well you are wrong on both aspects... you really need to reread things then get back to me...