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Sometimes a believer has issues with feeling : not worthy to be helped by God.

Well, how to resolve this wrong mind and wrong faith?

Its by understanding that if you are born again, you are eternally made worthy to receive from God = because Christ who is in you literally makes you ETERNALLY worthy and keeps you ETERNALLY worthy.

See, the reason you go to heaven, is because Christ in you has made you eternally worthy to go.
The reason you are righteous before God, always....if you are born again.... is because Christ in you, is your Eternal Righteousness that God has provided to you as : "The Gift of Righteousness".

If you are born again....The reason that God is always at peace with you, at all times, no matter what you do, is because Christ in you always makes you acceptable to God exactly same as He did the first day you first believed and received Christ as your Savior and were born again.

Listen.
The day you came to God, believing in Jesus, you had a lifetime of sin on you, that God instantly redeemed you from, based only on the Cross of Christ.
So, this same Cross of Christ and the same Blood of Jesus that took care of all your sin, continues to do it, and that is why the born again are become "The righteousness of God in Christ". Its because the born again are MADE RIGHTEOUS, and this is an eternal status that can never end, because its based on what Christ has FINISHED ON THE CROSS for you, 2000 yrs ago.

And since that moment ......when you took Christ, and God took you....God has never changed His divine perspective towards you since He made you His own based on Christ's blood and death.
God only and always sees you as "made righteous" and "born again" as a "new Creation".

Do you see yourself as this?
If you don't then you do not have God's perspective of you.
If you don't, and you are born again, and not just a water baptized church member....then you are not agreeing with God's eternal perspective of you.
So, you have to begin to renew your mind INTO that right perspective so that you and God maintain union of mind and point of view.
This is REAL Faith.
Real faith is to only see yourself at all times as God has recreated you to be with/by His Holy Spirit.
Real faith is you seeing yourself as God sees you, at all times. And that is "made Righteous".. "The Righteousness of God, in Christ".
If you will put on and keep that renewed mind, you are then walking in the Spirit., in the "renewed" mind. This is to "walk in THE Light". Its that REVELATION of who you have become, as a born again, """new creation" "In Christ".

Listen,
The reason you are a child of God, a Son of God, a Heir of God, and a Joint Heir with Christ, is because Christ IN YOU< makes you all of this, and keeps you the same, always and forever.

Welcome to SALVATION.

Salvation is not part time.
Eternal Life, is Christ In You, and this is not a temporary situation.
It is a ETERNAL SPIRITUAL BIRTH situation., and it does not happen by water or works, but "by my SPIRIT sayeth the Lord".

The day you were saved, you were a hell bound sinner.
You were LOST, DAMNED, and had no hope in this world.
One day......You heard the Truth, = that Christ died for your sin, and you received this TRUTH in your heart as your FAITH, and the forgiveness that God gave you the instant you did, is ETERNAL ....= "the gift of Salvation" and "The Gift of Righteousness".

God "Justifies the UNGODLY"< Romans 4:5 and we all were this, until God made us ="the righteousness >OF GOD< In Christ", as a born again "new Creation" "in Christ".
So, as a SINNER< God took you, only because of the Blood of Jesus and your Faith in Christ.
And that same Blood of Jesus that made you acceptable that day as a sinner being born again, is the same Blood that keeps you saved now, as a Son of God, or a Daughter of Christ, always forgiven.....Just like that day it all started, when you first believed.

Some of you are bent backwards and guilt tripped worrying about some sin, some carnal deed you chose to do, and now you feel so condemned.
Yet, on the Day that God saved you, you had a LIFETIME OF SIN that you brought to God, and He resolved it all instantly by redeeming you and forgiving it ALL based on the Blood of Jesus.
That is something that God did on the Cross 2000 years ago, that took care of you 2000 yrs later, and tomorrow, and forever.
So, what is your recent sin or "work of the flesh".. as compared to the LIFETIME Of sinning you brought to God on the day He saved you forever?
See it?

You are upset and worried about confessing one, when God forgave your entire lifetime of sinning, 2000 yrs ago.

Do you see it ?
You have to see this, or you can't take your first real step of real faith or discipleship.
Sure, you can do good works, but that is not the same thing.
See, you can do good works and be a hell bound sinner.



Listen.....Find yourself here...... Hebrews 13:9, and stay there in your FAITH.

When you can see that, you have then finally seen and understood the Light of Salvation in the shed blood and Death provided by God as Christ on the Cross.
God HELP YOU to see it and know it as your renewed mind, always.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, here is the reality.
If you are born again, and not just a water baptized self righteous actor trying to play the role of a real believer..... then God has made you eternally worthy to be HIS, by the Cross of Christ.... when You came to Him as a SINNER,.... and you are kept worthy to be His the same way tomorrow and forever.
See that?
If you do, then Give God Praise for His Son, your Salvation.
This is the "GIFT of Salvation".. = Its JESUS Himself.
That's God's Grace.... =Its Jesus Himself.
And if you are born again, you are IN CHRIST, and in Christ is where God's favor is found = as God's blessing's provided = that are a continual part of God's FREE "gift of Salvation".

That is always yours if you are born again, because Christ who is in you has made this happen for you, by making you worthy for God to BLESS and DELIVER and HEAL and KEEP.

So, you never have to hope that God will bless you or wonder if God will answer your Prayer, as its His own will to bless His born again children this way.
If you are not born again, then you are praying to the ceiling, until you are.
Thats a fact.
See, its God's will for you to be filled with the Peace of Christ ,..... which is to exist in the REST that God's Grace is designed to provide, as peace and joy for your soul, mind, and spirit.
 
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Sometimes a believer has issues with feeling : not worthy to be helped by God.

Well, how to resolve this wrong mind and wrong faith?

Its by understanding that if you are born again, you are eternally made worthy to receive from God = because Christ who is in you literally makes you ETERNALLY worthy and keeps you ETERNALLY worthy.

See, the reason you go to heaven, is because Christ in you has made you eternally worthy to go.
The reason you are righteous before God, always....if you are born again.... is because Christ in you, is your Eternal Righteousness that God has provided to you as : "The Gift of Righteousness".

If you are born again....The reason that God is always at peace with you, at all times, no matter what you do, is because Christ in you always makes you acceptable to God exactly same as He did the day you first believed and received Christ as your Savior and were born again.

Listen.
The day you came to God, believing in Jesus, you had a lifetime of sin on you, that God instantly redeemed you from, based only on the Cross of Christ.
So, this same Cross of Christ and the same Blood of Jesus that took care of all your sin, continues to do it, and that is why the born again are become "The righteousness of God in Christ". Its because the born again are MADE RIGHTEOUS, and this is an eternal status that can never end, because its based on what Christ has FINISHED ON THE CROSS for you, 2000 yrs ago.

And since that moment ......when you took Christ, and God took you....God has never changed His divine perspective towards you since He made you His own based on Christ's blood and death.
God only and always sees you as "made righteous" and "born again" as a "new Creation".

Do you see yourself as this?
If you don't then you do not have God's perspective of you.
If you don't, and you are born again, and not just a water baptized church member....then you are not agreeing with God's eternal perspective of you.
So, you have to begin to renew your mind INTO that right perspective so that you and God maintain union of mind and point of view.
This is REAL Faith.
Real faith is to only see yourself at all times as God has recreated you to be with/by His Holy Spirit.
Real faith is you seeing yourself as God sees you, at all times. And that is "made Righteous".. "The Righteousness of God, in Christ".
If you will put on and keep that renewed mind, you are then walking in the Spirit., in the "renewed" mind. This is to "walk in THE Light". Its that REVELATION of who you have become, as a born again, """new creation" "In Christ".

Listen,
The reason you are a child of God, a Son of God, a Heir of God, and a Joint Heir with Christ, is because Christ IN YOU< makes you all of this, and keeps you the same, always and forever.

Welcome to SALVATION.

Salvation is not part time.
Eternal Life, is Christ In You, and this is not a temporary situation.
It is a ETERNAL SPIRITUAL BIRTH situation., and it does not happen by water or works, but "by my SPIRIT sayeth the Lord".

The day you were saved, you were a hell bound sinner.
You were LOST, DAMNED, and had no hope in this world.
One day......You heard the Truth, = that Christ died for your sin, and you received this TRUTH in your heart as your FAITH, and the forgiveness that God gave you the instant you did, is ETERNAL ....= "the gift of Salvation" and "The Gift of Righteousness".

God "Justifies the UNGODLY"< Romans 4:5 and we all were this, until God made us ="the righteousness >OF GOD< In Christ", as a born again "new Creation" "in Christ".
So, as a SINNER< God took you, only because of the Blood of Jesus and your Faith in Christ.
And that same Blood of Jesus that made you acceptable that day as a sinner being born again, is the same Blood that keeps you saved now, as a Son of God, or a Daughter of Christ, always forgiven.....Just like that day it all started, when you first believed.

Some of you are bent backwards and guilt tripped worrying about some sin, some carnal deed you chose to do, and now you feel so condemned.
Yet, on the Day that God saved you, you had a LIFETIME OF SIN that you brought to God, and He resolved it all instantly by redeeming you and forgiving it ALL based on the Blood of Jesus.
That is something that God did on the Cross 2000 years ago, that took care of you 2000 yrs later, and tomorrow, and forever.
So, what is your recent sin or "work of the flesh".. as compared to the LIFETIME Of sinning you brought to God on the day He saved you forever?
See it?

You are upset and worried about confessing one, when God forgave your entire lifetime of sinning, 2000 yrs ago.

Do you see it ?
You have to see this, or you can't take your first real step of real faith or discipleship.
Sure, you can do good works, but that is not the same thing.
See, you can do good works and be a hell bound sinner.



Listen.....Find yourself here...... Hebrews 13:9, and stay there in your FAITH.

When you can see that, you have then finally seen and understood the Light of Salvation in the shed blood and Death provided by God as Christ on the Cross.
God HELP YOU to see it and know it as your renewed mind, always.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So, here is the reality.
If you are born again, and not just a water baptized self righteous actor trying to play the role of a real believer..... then God has made you eternally worthy to be HIS, by the Cross of Christ.... when You came to Him as a SINNER,.... and you are kept worthy to be His the same way tomorrow and forever.
See that?
If you do, then Give God Praise for His Son, your Salvation.
This is the "GIFT of Salvation".. = Its JESUS Himself.
That's God's Grace.... =Its Jesus Himself.
And if you are born again, you are IN CHRIST, and in Christ is where God's favor is found = as God's blessing's provided = that are a continual part of God's FREE "gift of Salvation".

That is always yours if you are born again, because Christ who is in you has made this happen for you, by making you worthy for God to BLESS and DELIVER and HEAL and KEEP.

So, you never have to hope that God will bless you or wonder if God will answer your Prayer, as its His own will to bless His born again children this way.
If you are not born again, then you are praying to the ceiling, until you are.
Thats a fact.
See, its God's will for you to be filled with the Peace of Christ ,..... which is to exist in the REST that God's Grace is designed to provide, as peace and joy for your soul, mind, and spirit.


Many Christians struggle with that feeling sir. It can be quite stumbling to them, and prayer is the best way to fight it. If one was not always a Christian they can compare their lives now to what they were before they became a Christian. That definitely helps to lift my spirits, serving Jehovah is infinitely better than living the world Be.
 

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Many Christians struggle with that feeling sir. .

Salvation can't be earned and it can't be kept.
Its not something that we control. Its something that God's mercy as the Cross of Christ has provided as a "GIFT".
God didnt provide it because we are good enough to deserve it, but HE provided it because we dont deserve it, and of ourselves will never be good enough..... and in this way God's deep love for us is clearly seen, and Salvation is truly revealed.
 
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Salvation can't be earned and it can't be kept.
Its not something that we control. Its something that God's mercy as the Cross of Christ has provided as a "GIFT".
God didnt provide it because we are good enough to deserve it, but HE provided it because we dont deserve it, and of ourselves will never be good enough..... and in this way God's deep love for us is clearly seen, and Salvation is truly revealed.

God saves only those who submit themselves to Him Be. Do not be deceived, God's people are to work in the assignment to their potential. Think not? Understand Jesus' words of the parable of the talents beginning in Mat 25:14
 
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God saves only those who submit themselves to Him Be. Do not be deceived, God's people are to work in the assignment to their potential. Think not? Understand Jesus' words of the parable of the talents beginning in Mat 25:14


Robert,

God saves (only) all who go to the Cross, Believing.

Try to understand that God does not need your help.
You have nothing to offer but your dirty rotten sins.
Never think you are in a position to offer God anything but that.......and following, you can give God your life, as He just gave you His Son's.
 
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Robert,

God saves (only) all who go to the Cross, Believing.

Try to understand that God does not need your help.
You have nothing to offer but your dirty rotten sins.
Never think you are in a position to offer God anything but that.......and following, you can give God your life, as He just gave you His Son's.

What is the "cross" Be?
 

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What is the "cross" Be?

The Cross is God's offer of the righteousness of Jesus, and His own. = John 3:16

The "Gift of Salvation" and eternal life itself is BASED ON "The Cross'.
Real Preachers, and real teachers like me, "preach the CROSS". We preach "Christ Crucified".
Why?
Because Paul did and this is the "Gospel", that Paul refers to 3x in the NT as "my Gospel".

"The preaching of the CROSS, is the POWER OF GOD, = UNTO SALVATION".

SEE THAT?

SO, to answer your question......... that Cross, as all real Believers have been to it and a real Ministers will only preach "the Cross".

Christian FAKIRS, know NOTHING ABOUT IT.
NOTHING.
 
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The Cross is God's offer of the righteousness of Jesus, and His own. = John 3:16

The "Gift of Salvation" and eternal life itself is BASED ON "The Cross'.
Real Preachers, and real teachers like me, "preach the CROSS". We preach "Christ Crucified".
Why?
Because Paul did and this is the "Gospel", that Paul refers to 3x in the NT as "my Gospel".

"The preaching of the CROSS, is the POWER OF GOD, = UNTO SALVATION".

SEE THAT?

SO, to answer your question......... that Cross, as all real Believers have been to it and a real Ministers will only preach "the Cross".

Christian FAKIRS, know NOTHING ABOUT IT.
NOTHING.

Actually Be, God gave His son as the verse said, people applied the cross to it. Why idolize the cross if that is the instrument in which was used to kill Jesus? It was Jesus' flesh and blood that redeemed those who receive everlasting life.
 
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people applied the cross to it. Why idolize the cross if that is the instrument in which was used to kill Jesus? It was Jesus' flesh and blood that redeemed those who receive everlasting life.

Actually, God applied the Cross to Jesus.
No Cross, no Salvation.
No Cross, then Jesus does not die for sin.

"The preaching of THE CROSS.........is the power of God, unto Salvation".

"We preach CHRIST CRUCIFIED"

= Crucifed = THE CROSS.
 

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Actually, God applied the Cross to Jesus.
No Cross, no Salvation.
No Cross, then Jesus does not die for sin.

"The preaching of THE CROSS.........is the power of God, unto Salvation".

"We preach CHRIST CRUCIFIED"

= Crucifed = THE CROSS.

Jesus died on a stauros Behold, and it is insignificant simply the method the Romans used to execute Jesus. It has absolutely no saving power. If you want salvation you will not idolize how Jesus died, but recognize the actual sacrifice given in your behalf. Stauros is not accurately translated cross sir, although many versions translate it that way, but it was a pre-Christian symbol of the god tammuz. Make sure of all things, and hold fast to what is fine Be. 1 Thes 5:21
 

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Jesus died on a stauros Behold, and it is insignificant simply the method the Romans used to execute Jesus. It has absolutely no saving power.

Ive not said that the Tree was the Savior.
I said that if not for the Cross of Christ, there is no salvaiton, and there is no Salvation without that Cross.

When Jesus asked God that the Cup be allowed to pass from Him, if possible, .....that "CUP" was the Cross, as its on the Cross where God poured out His Judgment against SIN.... on JESUS.

Paul said this..."We preach Christ CRUCIFIED"
Paul said this..>"the preaching of THE CROSS......is the power of God, unto Salvation".
 

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You cannot reject Christ?
apostasy?

YoU CAN THINK WHAT YOU will think, but this has no effect on being born again.
See, the MIND, can hate, love, lust, fear, and so forth,.. But the mind has no effect on what God has caused your Spirit to become, if you are born again.
This is why the false teaching of "hold unto your faith, to stay saved" is such a vicious lie against the Grace of God.
As its just one more self righteous attempt to reject Christ, while pretending to have faith in Him.
 

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YoU CAN THINK WHAT YOU will think, but this has no effect on being born again.
See, the MIND, can hate, love, lust, fear, and so forth,.. But the mind has no effect on what God has caused your Spirit to become, if you are born again.
This is why the false teaching of "hold unto your faith, to stay saved" is such a vicious lie against the Grace of God.
As its just one more self righteous attempt to reject Christ, while pretending to have faith in Him.

how do we get born again and enter the kingdom?
 

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Ive not said that the Tree was the Savior.
I said that if not for the Cross of Christ, there is no salvaiton, and there is no Salvation without that Cross.

When Jesus asked God that the Cup be allowed to pass from Him, if possible, .....that "CUP" was the Cross, as its on the Cross where God poured out His Judgment against SIN.... on JESUS.

Paul said this..."We preach Christ CRUCIFIED"
Paul said this..>"the preaching of THE CROSS......is the power of God, unto Salvation".

Why not state it accurately then, Jesus died on a Stauros. The instrument of his death is irrelevant anyway like I stated. Many have made it a reverential symbol, that is what I am condemning. Jesus' death is the important part, in fact he became our passover from that point on and told his apostles at the passover meal that they were to continue to observe that in memory of him. Luke 22:19
 

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how do we get born again and enter the kingdom?

Be becoming joined to God's Spirit.
This is to become Born again.
This happens when God's Holy Spirit BIRTHS your spirit into HIS.........and you become "in Christ", "The righteousness of God".
God performs this for "all who call on the name of Jesus", by Faith, Believing, as "faith is counted as Righteousness", and the BELIEVER is "justified by Faith".

FAITH, is not the savior.
GOD is the Savior, who saves you though the Blood and Death of Jesus, based on you giving Him your Faith, in Christ.
That is the requirment.
 

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@Behold

That is some fair speech you gave there (Post #1).

I’m glad that a simple reading of the entire book of Romans alone exposes your cunning diatribe as nonsense. Ear tickling garbage that leaves people with a false sense of security.

Here’s a teaching that you learn in the book of Romans:

“…because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not you.” (Romans 11:20-21)

So beware!

“…mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.” (Romans 16:17-18)

Don’t be simple:

“…be ye …wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.” (Matthew 10:16)
 

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@Behold

“…because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not you.” (Romans 11:20-21)

Still on the personal attack because you can't do anything else?
I told you so, yesterday, and here you are.... again.

And you are Quoting more verses out of context that you dont understand, again.

Let me show you that verse, so that you can see it.

Notice, "unbelief", "because of unbelief"..
See that?
IN this case, Paul is talking about Grafted branches, that are the Gentiles, and the House of Israel that is broken off, because of Unbelief.

Now here is the key.
Once you are born again, you can't be judged as "unbelief".
Why? Because God had already accepted the FAITH and caused this person to become a New Creation in Christ.
This person has "passed from death, to life".
See that?
So, your verse, once again, is not directed at a born again Christian., but that verse is directed specifically at Jews, who have rejected messiah, and its a warning to gentiles who are not yet born again.

Go ahead if you like and post more verses, and im happy to explain them to you.
 

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Why not state it accurately then, Jesus died on a Stauros. The instrument of his death is irrelevant anyway like I stated. Many have made it a reverential symbol, that is what I am condemning. Jesus' death is the important part, in fact he became our passover from that point on and told his apostles at the passover meal that they were to continue to observe that in memory of him. Luke 22:19

explain Lk 2:30?
 

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Be becoming joined to God's Spirit.
This is to become Born again.
This happens when God's Holy Spirit BIRTHS your spirit into HIS.........and you become "in Christ", "The righteousness of God".
God performs this for "all who call on the name of Jesus", by Faith, Believing, as "faith is counted as Righteousness", and the BELIEVER is "justified by Faith".

FAITH, is not the savior.
GOD is the Savior, who saves you though the Blood and Death of Jesus, based on you giving Him your Faith, in Christ.
That is the requirment.

does this entrance into the kingdom need to be ministered yo me?