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The best thing would be to advise them to stop having more babies than their countries can comfortably support, even Attenborough says the same thing..:)-

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The quickest and most humane way to reduce the population is to educate the poor, and particularly women. As has been proven in Kerala, India. It is what Europe and America have done, also. 'Til that happens globally, what do you think we should do? Let them starve?

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When the rains stop and agriculture fails there will be no more pressing issue to deal with.

Best wishes, 2RM.

In the meantime you have ideas that you aren’t interested in discussing with someone who was there helping them, in part, solve farmland irrigation problems.
 

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..the Satanic globalists have an agenda to DEPOPULATE the planet for their own benefit...

Wait a minute, how exactly would a thinned-out population benefit the globalists?
I mean, there'd be fewer people for them to get taxes from, and businesses would suffer because of a lack of customers..:)
 

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I spoke with some U.N. representatives one morning over breakfast in Blantyre, Malawi. The subject of food aid came up. I was told that the government warehouses were full to the brim with food donated by the United States. I thought perhaps then distribution must be the issue, a logistical problem. The U.N. representatives laughed and nodded their heads. When I asked what was so funny they replied that the people receive about 10 percent of the food that is donated; the rest is sold on the black market and the funds go into the hands of the “benevolent” dictator. It costs a lot of kwacha to maintain a dictator’s life of luxury, even in an extremely poor nation like Malawi.

I agree corruption is a problem in many parts of the world. But I do not think it to be an insoluble problem.

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I agree corruption is a problem in many parts of the world. But I do not think it to be an insoluble problem.

Best wishes, 2RM.

Neither did the rebels in Mozambique. The fields are - or at least were, when I was there - filled with land mines. That’ll put a dent in your day.
 

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The quickest and most humane way to reduce the population is to educate the poor, and particularly women. As has been proven in Kerala, India. It is what Europe and America have done, also. 'Til that happens globally, what do you think we should do? Let them starve?

Educating the women to keep their legs together and the men to keep their flies zipped up sounds good on paper but in reality they're not worried about having more babies because they think "The suckers in the better off countries will feed us"..:)
It might therefore be a good idea to instead allocate only a limited supply of food to them to encourage them not to keep breeding like rabbits.
I used to keep mice in a big cage in the garden shed, and when their numbers began getting too much, I simply reduced their food and they instinctively stopped having so many litters and numbers began to decline.

Anyway scrounging immigrants are flooding into Europe so fast that Africa must be running on fumes by now..:)

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Loving our criminal neighbors means locking them up. For their own good and for the good of humanity. Actually the NT goes one step further. It calls for the execution of our criminal "neighbors". The Climate Nazis are committing diabolical crimes against humanity.

The fact that you need to resort to hyperbole (Climate Nazis) makes me wonder if you actually have a rational argument, at all. You might try to cite a case of such a diabolical crime against humanity. If it survives scrutiny, it could restore your tattered credibility, somewhat.

Best wishes, 2RM.
 
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Educating the women to keep their legs together and the men to keep their flies zipped up sounds good on paper but in reality they're not worried about having more babies because they think "The suckers in the better off countries will feed us"..:)
It might therefore be a good idea to instead allocate only a limited supply of food to them to encourage them not to keep breeding like rabbits.
I used to keep mice in a big cage in the garden shed, and when their numbers began getting too much, I simply reduced their food and they instinctively stopped having so many litters and numbers began to decline.

Anyway scrounging immigrants are flooding into Europe so fast that Africa must be running on fumes by now..:)

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People are not mice. The reason the poor have large families is the precarious nature of their lives.

Best wishes, 2RM.
 

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Neither did the rebels in Mozambique. The fields are - or at least were, when I was there - filled with land mines. That’ll put a dent in your day.

My country - the UK - has banned the use of landmines. Yours has not. So don't lecture me on landmines.

Best wishes, 2RM
 

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People are not mice. The reason the poor have large families is the precarious nature of their lives.

If people live in an arid land they should have the simple commonsense NOT to make things worse with more mouths to feed..:)
There's a paralell in our tiny overcrowded island of Britain, where scrounging illegal immigrants are pouring in, overloading our NHS and housing infrastructure, and in todays news we hear that even dentists can't cope with the influx of new patients.
 

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My country - the UK - has banned the use of landmines. Yours has not. So don't lecture me on landmines.

Best wishes, 2RM

I wasn’t lecturing you. And as for the land mines, several countries are responsible for putting them there. It matters little to dead, mangled and terrified farmers and their families which countries put them there. It was, and still is decades later, a problem the people who live there must face.

“It’s ever so slightly hotter than it was” (which nary a soul who lives there ever said to me) pales in comparison with “if you enter that field you’re probably going to die”.
 

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If people live in an arid land they should have the simple commonsense NOT to make things worse with more mouths to feed..:)
There's a paralell in our tiny overcrowded island of Britain, where scrounging illegal immigrants are pouring in, overloading our NHS and housing infrastructure, and in todays news we hear that even dentists can't cope with the influx of new patients.
As I understood the news (my primary source is Radio 4) the problem is not an influx of immigrants, but simply that the current contract is insufficient to cover the dentist's costs.

Best wishes, 2RM.
 
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“An idea for your consideration” has turned out - so far - to be no idea at all to consider.

That’s helping no one.
 
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I hope we'll get there eventually, but my judgment at this point is that there is way more discussion to go, first. That's not altogether surprising. Saving the world is a big topic.

Best wishes, 2RM.
 
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I wasn’t lecturing you. And as for the land mines, several countries are responsible for putting them there. It matters little to dead, mangled and terrified farmers and their families which countries put them there. It was, and still is decades later, a problem the people who live there must face.

“It’s ever so slightly hotter than it was” (which nary a soul who lives there ever said to me) pales in comparison with “if you enter that field you’re probably going to die”.

Whether one is denied the use of one's land by landmines or because there is no rain seems a moot point to me. Either way, the result is hunger.

Best wishes, 2RM.
 

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Whther one is denied the use of one's land by landmines or because there is no rain seems a moot point to me.

Best wishes, 2RM.

The problems of the world will be solved when the Messiah’s government (which will include all believers) manages the world.
 
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first of all is climate change even in the Bible? i don't see anything about climate change in God's Word although some might say that the book of Genesis teaches it, is climate change even bibical?
 

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first of all is climate change even in the Bible? i don't see anything about climate change in God's Word although some might say that the book of Genesis teaches it, is climate change even bibical?

Does that matter to you? If so, why? Seems to me that if one is presented with an emergency, one must deal with it, whether the scribes that wrote the Bible foresaw it, or not.

Best wishes, 2RM.
 
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So is it simple commonsense to have too few surviving children to care for you in your old age, or enough to stand some chance of achieving that objective?

That sounds like a selfish motive to me.

I trust in God and in the Messiah to care for me, not my children.

Maybe I’ve misunderstood what you were asking.
 

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first of all is climate change even in the Bible? i don't see anything about climate change in God's Word although some might say that the book of Genesis teaches it, is climate change even bibical?
The problems of the world will be solved when the Messiah’s government (which will include all believers) manages the world.

I dare say. Meanwhile, it would be remiss of us not to do what we can to help ourselves.

Best wishes, 2RM.
 
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