Should Christians Celebrate Christmas?

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I'm too busy not celebrating Halloween right now! Ask me in a month or so! :p
 
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not if we are to worship in 'truth' as Jesus said we should

John 4:23 "true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him"

Christmas is false, its not based on truth, its based on the lie that jesus was born on Dec 25. If you want to be included among those who the Father is looking for, then be willing to give up this pagan holiday.
 

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Of course we should. It's Jesus' birthday.

If that's not a good enough reasons, then think about how dark and dreary winter is and how we need soemthing to brighten things up in the coldest and darkest time of year. Where I live it will be dark by 3:00PM on Christmas day.
 

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I have heard that bunnies and trees and other symbols on some of our national holidays are actually pagan symbols representing, whatever it is they do. So probably not, but it's like anything if santa clause effect how you worship Jesus then maybe your faith is weak.
 

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I have heard that bunnies and trees and other symbols on some of our national holidays are actually pagan symbols representing, whatever it is they do. So probably not, but it's like anything if santa clause effect how you worship Jesus then maybe your faith is weak.

The question though is, how does one worship God in spirit and in truth and celebrate Christmas since Jesus was not born on December 25?
 

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Of course we should. It's Jesus' birthday.

If that's not a good enough reasons, then think about how dark and dreary winter is and how we need soemthing to brighten things up in the coldest and darkest time of year. Where I live it will be dark by 3:00PM on Christmas day.

How is December 25th Jesus' birthday since He was not born on in that month? If one needs to celebrate Christmas to brighten things up then something is wrong with that person. I mean, isn't God's word and His promise enough? Isn't the fact that we have a bright and awesome future enough? Isn't it enough that God lives in those who has His Spirit enough?
 

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The question though is, how does one worship God in spirit and in truth and celebrate Christmas since Jesus was not born on December 25?

Yeah and that goes back to the Mcdonaldization of modern day christianity. Most people may go to church on Easter or Christmas and that's all they care to do. They kind of get there quick cheap fill and it's out the drive through, it is something that would be nice to change but that's not really up to us.
 

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Yeah and that goes back to the Mcdonaldization of modern day christianity. Most people may go to church on Easter or Christmas and that's all they care to do. They kind of get there quick cheap fill and it's out the drive through, it is something that would be nice to change but that's not really up to us.

A true leader takes the lead even if he is the only one.....and usually the rest follow much later. But I don't believe in waiting for a leader to go before me.....I am one of many leaders and I have no fear of going against the prevailing view.
 

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A true leader takes the lead even if he is the only one.....and usually the rest follow much later. But I don't believe in waiting for a leader to go before me.....I am one of many leaders and I have no fear of going against the prevailing view.

Where do you lead BuzzFruit ?
 

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25th of December is when we celebrate Jesus Birthday but I never said he was born on that day. Sheppards were out with their flocks and they had lambs and lambs are born in spring, by December they are fully grown sheep. Maybe Jesus was born in april or May. That's not the point. 25th of December is nothing to do with it However Dcember 25 is a great time to celebrate it because it was the date of the traditional mid winter feasts. Pagan feasts, but the church was flexible in those days (circa 7th century, more so that the RCC is today)

Do you know what would have happened if the Church suppressed these festival?

I'll tell you, people woud'l not have accepted Christianity in the first place or if they did then they would have apostacised because people back then wouldn't ahve stood for a religion that didn't allow celebrations.

However, I try not to get too caught up in the commericalisation of Christmas, though I do enjoy myself and eat and drink a lot but I also observe the Christmas services including recieving the Euchaist on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.

So what do Christians do who abstain from celebrating Christmas? Do you adhere to any religious observances or just treat it like any other day?
 

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Well if you can change a mans heart you should teach us how.

It is simple. Have a desire and a love for the truth and know that God's word is truth. I have no more access to truth than you or anyone else. I simply love and put more trust in God’s word than in what people say….even if it’s coming from a pastor. The pastor does not own me….he does not even own the Church. So I am not bound to obey or believe everything he says…..it is God’s word that I am loyal to….not the pastor or the Church. If one does not have a desire for the truth but wants to, ask God to give it to them and believe he will. Then go out and study God's word and ask Him to guide you and teach you.

25th of December is when we celebrate Jesus Birthday but I never said he was born on that day. Sheppards were out with their flocks and they had lambs and lambs are born in spring, by December they are fully grown sheep. Maybe Jesus was born in april or May. That's not the point. 25th of December is nothing to do with it However Dcember 25 is a great time to celebrate it because it was the date of the traditional mid winter feasts. Pagan feasts, but the church was flexible in those days (circa 7th century, more so that the RCC is today)

Do you know what would have happened if the Church suppressed these festival?

I'll tell you, people woud'l not have accepted Christianity in the first place or if they did then they would have apostacised because people back then wouldn't ahve stood for a religion that didn't allow celebrations
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However, I try not to get too caught up in the commericalisation of Christmas, though I do enjoy myself and eat and drink a lot but I also observe the Christmas services including recieving the Euchaist on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.

So what you are saying is that they love their pagan festivals more than they love God and the truth? It only means that they were not really converted at all, since their repentance was conditional.

So what do Christians do who abstain from celebrating Christmas? Do you adhere to any religious observances or just treat it like any other day?


The way you say it makes it seem as if Christians feel left out and wants to be a part of what everyone is doing. If that's the reason they might as well go back into the world. But if one wants to celebrate the fact that Jesus was born, then why wait until December 25? What's the problem of celebrating it on every month of the year or on a month closer to the time Jesus was born?
 

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I have heard that bunnies and trees and other symbols on some of our national holidays are actually pagan symbols representing, whatever it is they do. So probably not, but it's like anything if santa clause effect how you worship Jesus then maybe your faith is weak.
Santa Claus is a lie that is told to children. He is given 'qualities' like Jesus. "He knows when you are sleeping. He knows when you're awake. He knows if you've been bad or good..." When they find out that Santa is a lie then why should they believe in Jesus?

Did I mention Jer 10 ?

Jeremiah 10:2-4 (KJV)
2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
 

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Why wait til Midwinter?

Because otherwise people would be too drunk to get any work done during the year.

Oh and by the way, I don't think the first Christians in Northern Europe were all that sincere (apart from the saints like Wilfred and Cuthbert) because it was their kings that made the decision for them to convert not themselves. King Edwin of Northumbria was converted by St Paulinus and his Queen Aethelburga but when Ewin died the kingdom was invaded by Mercia (pagans kingdom) and fell into mass apostacy, so no I don't think the general populace were particularly eager to convert to Christianity. Back then kings had alters to many Gods and they saw ours as just one of the est and even when they were Christians, they still kept the pagan shrines going.

Anyway, yous till ahvn't told me how you observe Christmas.