The Problems of Perpetual Belief Alone Salvation-ism.

[amigo de christo]

So your goal is to make my stay unpleasant and run me out the forums?

Until one bows to the idol of hyper grace osas , many will do just that my dear sister . But many also forget about all those IFS in the bible .

 

[BloodBought 1953]

@BloodBought 1953

How are you bringing glory to God?

Because it certainly isn’t happening this way:

“Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 5:16)

“Beloved, I urge you as sojourners and exiles to abstain from the passions of the flesh, which wage war against your soul. Keep your conduct among the Gentiles honorable, so that when they speak against you as evildoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day of visitation.” (1 Peter 2:11-12)

I bring Glory to God By doing the same thing that Paul did—- calling out “ False and Perverted” Gospels.....Newbies especially must be warned about Gospel Additions thst will have them like others in here that are “ Fallen From Grace” and “ Severed from Christ” and don’t even know it...

I Fight to uphold Paul’s Gospel Of Grace—-God likes it....

Sometimes Biblical “ Adminishment” is called for—- if those that teach Teach False “ Works” Gospels aren't in need of this “ Correction” , who is?

 

[amigo de christo]

If I can’t admonish those that preach and teach “ False and Perverted”, so- called Gospels ....if I can’t call-out those that Mock and Reject the Grace That Jesus Shed His Blood to purchase ,and if I can’t attack the BLASPHEMOUS Doctrine Of “Lucky Repentance” That maintains that the ONLY way to be Saved is to have the super memory and the Good Fortune to Repent Of All Of your Sins Before you die......If doing That is a “ violation of the Rules” , The “Rules” need to be changed.....

God HATES Leaven....no Christian site should Side with those that spread it, and go against those that try to stop it’s Spread.....It was *Leaven* —-and NOT *Righteous Anger* that destroyed Paul’s Churches in Asia Minor....” A little Leaven leavens the whole Batch”.....

If this Leaven is not put to a STOP in here, this excellent Site will run the risk of being destroyed from within, just as some of Paul’s early churches were.....I don’t want to see that happen—— Hang me From the Highest Tree....

Hey BB , i can be as many others are and disregaurd what follows YOUR IF . SO WHY Do folks disregaurd what follows
the IF in those bibles . Ponder deep and long on that one my friend .

 

[amigo de christo]

IF , makes A POINT . AND many seem to forget the IF and what follows the IF in that bible .
YET we sure can use the word IF to make our own points .

 

[BloodBought 1953]

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I sent you a PM with a link to the PM where we were both reprimanded and you promised to do better. Be aware that if you reply in the original PM, the mod will be able to see it.



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Sometimes I don’t do as well with my “ promises” that I would like....how about you?

This would be just one of my MANY sins....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

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Don’t take it to heart dear sister. In the end the righteous who do righteousness prevail (1 John 3:7).

“O LORD God, to whom vengeance belongeth; O God, to whom vengeance belongeth, shew thyself. Lift up thyself, thou judge of the earth: render a reward to the proud. LORD, how long shall the wicked, how long shall the wicked triumph? How long shall they utter and speak hard things? and all the workers of iniquity boast themselves? They break in pieces thy people, O LORD, and afflict thine heritage.” (Psalms 94:1-5)

“ Workers Of Iniquity” would be Those that teach False Gospels .....Those “ False Gospels” would Reject and Mock God's Grace...and make up blasphemous “ Doctrines” That espouse “Lucky Repentance” ——claiming that if you do not have the “ Good Fortune” to Remember and be sorry for all of your sins before you die, you are going to Hell...

 

[Behold]

But if you need verses on repentance (seeking forgiveness with the Lord Jesus as a part of our salvation),

Real believers who are 'In Christ", understand that Christ is the Eternal Atonement between them and God.
You have it, or you dont.
There is no confessing sin or working good works required to keep what God has given as the "Gift of Salvation".
There is only the deceived misunderstanding that many have, who are trying to stay saved, having no real faith in Christ.

 

[amigo de christo]

“ Workers Of Iniquity” would be Those that teach False Gospels .....Those “ False Gospels” would Reject and Mock God's Grace...and make up blasphemous “ Doctrines” That espouse “Lucky Repentance” ——claiming that if you do not have the “ Good Fortune” to Remember and be sorry for all of your sins before you die, you are going to Hell...

Number one , folks are only held accountable to the sins they have knowledge about .
IF we know we have sinned we better repent of said sin . Number two many do preach a false gospel .
The gosple of all inclusive love led by francis and most of our own churches , IS FALSE .
Cause any love that allows folks to follow another path , another religoin and to honor sin IS A LIE
The muslims , buddists , jews and whoever can do all the good works they want , but if even cornelious
who did many good works had to hear and beleive the gospel TO BE SAVED , GUESS what , THEY ALL DO .
THIS Love puke message getting preached today is false . The love that comes FROM GOD
dont teach us to choose our own path and god and religion . GOD draws us to CHRIST . PEROID .
ANY other love is false . And the love of GOD wont honor rebellious sin either .
I think folks forget why GOD eradicated the first covenant and established the second .
BUT Paul says it best , FOR FINDING FAULT WITH THEM , cause they DID NOT OBEY GOD
HE said I WILL MAKE a new COVENANT in those days . No man that justifies their sin has truly been converted . PEROID .
I dont care if they seem to have love and can sing praises and do good deeds . WHO WE FOLLOW IS PROOF OF WHOSE WE ARE
and WHO WE BELONG TOO . AND when lambs err they repent . What they dont do is say
HEY I AM GAY and PROUD and GOD MADE ME THAT WAY . I had to use that example cause most folks are terrified to dare to expose
that wicked agenda . THEY AINT SAVED my friend . CAUSE WHEN GOD SAVES , HE CHANGES . THE PROOF is in the fruit .

 

[BarneyFife]

Sometimes I don’t do as well with my “ promises” that I would like....how about you?

This would be just one of my MANY sins....

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What I don't do is rate my failings (which I confess only to God and to those whom I've offended) by comparison to others' behavior for self-justification.

I'm sure you wouldn't do that, either.
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[Michiah-Imla]

Newbies especially must be warned about Gospel Additions thst will have them like others in here that are “ Fallen From Grace”

…And the “fallen from grace” accusation is once again used in an unbiblical way (as usual).

Here’s the biblical context:

“For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.” (Galatians 5:3-4)

Nobody here is preaching that you should be circumcised to keep your salvation, nor to observe days, months, times, or years (Galatians 4:10).

“ Workers Of Iniquity” would be Those that teach False Gospels ....

“workers of iniquity” are those who WORK INIQUITY! And if you believe you are always saved no matter how you behave yourself in the faith sin will never be defeated.

And thus holiness and righteousness become nothing more than labels you think God places on you regardless of your obedience to the faith.

A true satanic doctrine!

 

[BloodBought 1953]

BloodBought 1953 said: ↑
Satanic Lies
This is how you describe encouragement in holiness and discouragement from sin. Your position is unmistakable.



Don’t misrepresent me—- The Satanic Lie is “ Lucky Repentance” .....The Ultimate “ False and Perverted” Gospel that claims that we are Saved by having the Super Memories and the Good Fortune to Repent Of ALL of our Sins before we take our Last Breath

Show me ANYWHERE in Paul’s Gospel Of 1 Cor 15:1-4 where the word “Repentance “ is even uttered....it ain’t.

The Gospel That Is a Promise Of God to Save ANYONE that simply BELIEVES it dies not include Repentance.....

Newbies need to understand that “ Repentance” is literally a Mind-Change ( from the Greek Word “ metanoia” ) To Repent is To change your mind....

Any person that rejected the Gospel , Thinking that it was “ Foolishness” ( the Gospel is foolishness to those that Perish) and that he had no need for it ......If That guy has his heart opened to the Gospel later on in his life and “ Changes His Mind” about the Truth and his need for the Gospel—- That man has done all of the “Repenting” he ever need Do in regard for Salvation.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

“ Co- Savior”
Non biblical accusation.

Nevertheless, True.....
“ If the shoe fits— wear it”

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Show me ANYWHERE in Paul’s Gospel Of 1 Cor 15:1-4 where the word “Repentance “ is even uttered....it ain’t.

The full scope of the gospel is understood in all scripture (2 Timothy 3:16). It’s not “Paul’s Gospel”.

It’s the gospel of God (Romans 1:1; Romans 15:16).

It’s the gospel of God’s Son (Romans 1:9).

It’s the gospel of Christ (Romans 1:16; Romans 15:19).

It’s the gospel of everyone’s salvation (Ephesians 1:13) that the old prophets
wondered about:

“Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow. Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Ghost sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.” (1 Peter 1:11-12)

If you think that “the gospel” is only contained in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 you have been lied to by the enemy by clever means to disregard 95% of your Holy Bible.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

BloodBought 1953 said: ↑
Paul’s Remedy for you Spiritual Descendants Of The Salve Woman, Hagar is to be “Cast Out” just as she was.....
Yet Paul was not using the Hagar example against holy living. Hagar was used as an example of those who would return to circumcision and observation of days, months, times, and years (Galatians 4:10; Galatians 5:2).


Nobody is promoting lives that are not Holy.....that is a Lie.....you should really stop lying.....God does not consider that “ Holy”

Hagar was used by Paul as an example of the “Spiritual Mother” Of All Of The Legalist That would put themselves back under the Bondage Of The Law after Paul had shown that Believers were “ Not under Law , but under Grace”

Multitudes Of Blind people have put themselves under Law since the days of Hagar and since the preaching Of Paul.....they fear Grace.....they don't trust Grace ......and they call God a Liar by Rejecting Grace....( “It is by GRACE that ye are Saved”) ...

Grace. The only thing that ultimately saves anybody. And many in here not only reject it—- they MOCK it.....may God forgive them....

 

[Michiah-Imla]

Hagar was used by Paul as an example of the “Spiritual Mother” Of All Of The Legalist

Thanks for your opinion.

But we base our belief on scripture (that I have shown you).

You cite no scripture.

You just regurgitate your tradition of men.

 

[BloodBought 1953]

BloodBought 1953 said: ↑
You need to be Cast Out Of any and all “Christian” Forums......
You have an evil disposition. But I don’t want you banned because this is not a church and I am of this spirit:

“…where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.” (2 Corinthians 3:17)

What spirit are you of?



Lol.....yeah, I’m “ Evil” alright.......one of my biggest problems in the Real Life outside Of these Forums is trying to have the time to spend with everybody that wants a “ piece” of me.....seems like everybody I meet wants to be my Best Friend and they want to go and do something together —- just “ hang out” with me, if nothing else.....

That would be “ My Spirit” .....It’s the Spirit Of Christ “ IN” me that makes people want to be with me....it’s a Spirit Of Joy, mainly —- it attracts people....they want to know how you got it.....and I don’t hesitate to tell them.....I wonder how much “ Joy” is in your life.....my constant smile attracts people.....you Religious guys usually have those judgmental Scowls on your faces...people Reject Christianity because of it....what a shame....

I am FORCED to be a different person in here a lot of times , because False Teachers are in here and Newbies that are still “Spiritual Babes” need to be protected from them by those of us that Understand the Bible......Those Of us that have no need to “ Twist” Scripture and take verses out of context to try to “prove” their False , so-called gospels.....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

Okay, just making sure that was your goal. I don't intend to leave but I am curious if the moderating staff here will allow you to bully and target me here.

If so, I trust God. He will sort everything out and has a way of sorting these things out.

Lol......and YOU were not “ Bullying and Targeting” ME with your little Grace-Mocking Poem, or whatever it was? You need to ask yourself—— “who drew first blood?”

When you say that God will sort everything out? Well, at we are at least in agreement about that.....He will....

 

[BloodBought 1953]

What spirit are you of?



I am Of the Spirit That is not a hypocrite and actually Believes what he sings ——“ Nothing But the Blood” ...... How about you? Those that mindlessly sing this song, Sunday after Sunday need to cut it out of their hymnal if they sing it but don’t actually BELIEVE IT......need a pair of scissors there , Friend? My Spirit is just fine, thanks for your heart- felt concern.....

 

[Wynona]

Lol......and YOU were not “ Bullying and Targeting” ME with your little Grace-Mocking Poem, or whatever it was?

No that was not meant to target you. I wrote about a fictional guy that does literally nothing. Did not mention you.

 

[BarneyFife]

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In real life, I'm not a hick deputy.

I'm actually the captain of the largest cruise ship in the world.

Everybody loves me and I speak 9 languages fluently.
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