The Day of The Lord, Wrong Timing Applied

[Earburner]

You already pointed out you do not accept the Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity.

1. That is your issue not mine. Jesus is 100% God. His Spirit is the Holy Spirit.

2. Would you say the Word became flesh?

3. Would you say that God became flesh and dwelt among men?

4. I say both happened

1. Yes!
2. Yes!
3. Yes!
4. Yes! So NOW WHAT?
5. Jesus is STILL now, ever since Pentecost, COMING to us by His Holy Spirit, being in all truth and reality, His SECOND Coming!!
It's not my fault, that He is still coming to each of us, and that "the religious, the pharisaical" of church-'ianity has messed it up, and became short sighted, losing sight of it almost altogether.
6. So what's next on God's calendar in Heaven?
He is waiting for the time upto the point when no more shall come to Him in repentance through Jesus.
7. In that day, He shall END His Age of Grace ("cut it short in righteousness"), and send Jesus in His THIRD and FINAL Coming, in all His fiery immortality to gather the wicked for destruction, and to redeem all His Saints, whose names are written IN HIM,
who IS the Book of Life Himself.

 

[Truth7t7]

1. Yes!
2. Yes!
3. Yes!
4. Yes! So NOW WHAT?
5. Jesus is STILL now, ever since Pentecost, COMING to us by His Holy Spirit, being in all truth and reality, His SECOND Coming!!
It's not my fault, that He is still coming to each of us, and that "the religious, the pharisaical" of church-'ianity has messed it up, and became short sighted, losing sight of it almost altogether.
6. So what's next on God's calendar in Heaven?
He is waiting for the time upto the point when no more shall come to Him in repentance through Jesus.
7. In that day, He shall END His Age of Grace ("cut it short in righteousness"), and send Jesus in His THIRD and FINAL Coming, in all His fiery immortality to gather the wicked for destruction, and to redeem all His Saints, whose names are written IN HIM,
who IS the Book of Life Himself.

You continue to push the day of Pentecost as a "Second Coming" of Jesus Christ, it's a joke burner

The inspired writer of Hebrews missed your day of pentecost teachings

Jesus will appear a "Second Time" not a "Third Time" as you falsely teach

Hebrews 9:28KJV
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

 

[Earburner]

You continue to push the day of Pentecost as a "Second Coming" of Jesus Christ, it's a joke burner

The inspired writer of Hebrews missed your day of pentecost teachings

Jesus will appear a "Second Time" not a "Third Time" as you falsely teach

Hebrews 9:28KJV
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

You are misunderstanding the spiritual purpose of why I am being so exact over two words of the Lord's "comings" and the Lord's "appearances".
You might think that I am splitting hairs here, but I am not. It's very easy to misconstrue the events of the Lord's "comings", as opposed to His actual "appearances".

Church-ianity has truly dropped the ball on this, and has created/fabricated so many variations, that it is now become overwhelming confusion, as we are all witnessing in these threads.
His Comings:
He came to Israel in the flesh
He is coming now to all by His Spirit. John 14:17, Luke 17:20, Joel 3:14.
He shall come again in His Immortality.

His Appearances:
He first appeared to Israel in the flesh
He shall appear a second time from Heaven in His immortality, to all the world.

There is a difference between the words "appearance" and "coming", and church-ianity has severely misconstrued the meanings, causing a rift, an over sight in the actual power of His Ever Living "First Resurrection".

It is by His Resurrection FIRST, that we are able to become Born again, (to be able to partake of the divine nature) by His Holy Spirit, and it is forever established in God FOR THAT VERY PURPOSE. Revelation 3:20, Romans 8:9.

Today, in church-ianity, the day of His Resurrection and the Day of Pentecost are observed/celebrated primarily historically, but hardly, if at all, spiritually.
The entirety of those two celebrated days, have become nothing more than an historical remembrance, and they tell it as such.

Go ahead, if you will, and interpret for me, your view about KJV Revelation 20[6] "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

If anyone is not in the understanding of the Amillennial view, there is hardly a chance that they will connect Rev. 20:6 directly to Pentecost, and the future of that day.
In church-ianity, the corruption of it, is so pervasive and persuasive, that even some Amillennialists might not make the truthful connection to it.

 

[Truth7t7]

You are misunderstanding the spiritual purpose of why I am being so exact over two words of the Lord's "comings" and the Lord's "appearances".
You might think that I am splitting hairs here, but I am not. It's very easy to misconstrue the events of the Lord's "comings", as opposed to His actual "appearances".

Church-ianity has truly dropped the ball on this, and has created/fabricated so many variations, that it is now become overwhelming confusion, as we are all witnessing in these threads.
His Comings:
He came to Israel in the flesh
He is coming now to all by His Spirit. John 14:17, Luke 17:20, Joel 3:14.
He shall come again in His Immortality.

His Appearances:
He first appeared to Israel in the flesh
He shall appear a second time from Heaven in His immortality, to all the world.

There is a difference between the words "appearance" and "coming", and church-ianity has severely misconstrued the meanings, causing a rift, an over sight in the actual power of His Ever Living "First Resurrection".

It is by His Resurrection FIRST, that we are able to become Born again, (to be able to partake of the divine nature) by His Holy Spirit, and it is forever established in God FOR THAT VERY PURPOSE. Revelation 3:20, Romans 8:9.

Today, in church-ianity, the day of His Resurrection and the Day of Pentecost are observed/celebrated primarily historically, but hardly, if at all, spiritually.
The entirety of those two celebrated days, have become nothing more than an historical remembrance, and they tell it as such.

Go ahead, if you will, and interpret for me, your view about KJV Revelation 20[6] "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."

If anyone is not in the understanding of the Amillennial view, there is hardly a chance that they will connect Rev. 20:6 directly to Pentecost, and the future of that day.
In church-ianity, the corruption of it, is so pervasive and persuasive, that even some Amillennialists might not make the truthful connection to it.

You blame Churchianity, I blame a teaching that's not seen in scripture, namely your claims of a "Second Coming" of Jesus Christ at Pentecost

 

[Earburner]

You blame Churchianity, I blame a teaching that's not seen in scripture, namely your claims of a "Second Coming" of Jesus Christ at Pentecost

I am not talking about, nor am I promoting the emotional "religion" of Pentecostalism. They also are just as clueless in what I am saying.
The answers in scripture for what I am saying are in truth that He is coming to us now, and has been, during the future days of Pentecost (the true millennium) by His Spirit. John 14:17, Luke 17:20, Joel 3:14,
Acts 2[16] But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
[17] And it shall come to pass in the last days [beginning then], saith God,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and [in the future of those days] your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
[18] And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days [coming] of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

 

[Truth7t7]

I am not talking about, nor am I promoting the emotional "religion" of Pentecostalism. They also are just as clueless in what I am saying.
The answers in scripture for what I am saying are in truth that He is coming to us now, and has been, during the future days of Pentecost (the true millennium) by His Spirit. John 14:17, Luke 17:20, Joel 3:14,
Acts 2[16] But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
[17] And it shall come to pass in the last days [beginning then], saith God,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and [in the future of those days] your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
[18] And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days [coming] of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

You can claim Jesus is revealing himself by God the Holy Spirit at pentecost, but it's not a "Second Coming" of Jesus as you have claimed

 

[Davy]

The Jews had a similar condition. They also read the scriptures verbatim, and as a result they had NO CLUE that their Messiah, God the Son came to them in the flesh, and therefore they missed the day of their visitation.
Today, the Messiah is now coming to ALL by His Spirit. I wonder how many since Pentecost have also missed THEIR day of visitation?
Revelation 3:20

As I've already said elsewhere, if you were to take a course in electronics they would throw you ought because of your LACK of ability to stay focused on what is WRITTEN. That is why God's Word is closed off to you, because of how you treat God's Word as something cheap and to be toyed with.

I really don't know why moderators allow such folks like you here on a Christian forum, because of how far away from The Word of God you have strayed. Anyone can talk about Jesus The Messiah, but to say He has been in the PROCESS OF COMING for the last 2,000 years is absolutely nuts!

 

[Earburner]

You can claim Jesus is revealing himself by God the Holy Spirit at pentecost, but it's not a "Second Coming" of Jesus as you have claimed

It most assuredly is!! "I will come to you", albeit in the form of the Holy Spirit. Which is Himself manifesting Himself to us, who are of faith, in repentance towards God.
You are having a hard time grasping it, because of what religion has done to it all these years. In the mind of Christ within you, there is nothing against God to think in His truth about it. However, the world of religion and the religious cannot see beyond the four walls of their own denominational doctrines of men, and therefore can do nothing but spit and sputter against it.

 

[Davy]

The "Eternal" river of life is present In Zechariah 14:8, the wicked are consumed by the Lord's fire as they are standing on their feet as seen in Zechariah 14:12 at his second coming, the Day Of The Lord takes place Zechariah 14:1 and 2 Peter 3:10 (The End)

The wicked leftovers that came up against Jerusalem are shown STILL EXISTING in the later Zechariah 14:16 verse, and are made to go to Jerusalem to worship Christ Jesus!

All you do is CHOP God's Word up to suit your FALSE DOCTRINES OF MEN.

 

[Davy]

That's correct!

Same Day of the Lord seen in Zechariah 14:1 as in 2 Peter 3:10, this earth will be dissolved by the Lord's "Fire" (The End)

MAN'S WORKS is what is dissolved on that day, off the surface of this earth. If the earth were totally dissolved, many prophecies about Christ's future return could not happen, even the Acts 1 prophecy the two angels said.

 

[Davy]

You have proven nothing wrong, Millennialism is a fabricated fairy tale of man found no place in scripture

I have PROVEN BEYOND ALL DOUBT that men's false theory of Amillennialism is a GNOSTIC DOCTRINE.

Revelation 3:9 reveals the wicked are NOT DESTROYED at Christ's future return. You don't have a clue of what God's consuming fire is and will do on the "day of the Lord", you not able to discern spiritual things.

 

[Earburner]

As I've already said elsewhere, if you were to take a course in electronics they would throw you ought because of your LACK of ability to stay focused on what is WRITTEN. That is why God's Word is closed off to you, because of how you treat God's Word as something cheap and to be toyed with.

I really don't know why moderators allow such folks like you here on a Christian forum, because of how far away from The Word of God you have strayed. Anyone can talk about Jesus The Messiah, but to say He has been in the PROCESS OF COMING for the last 2,000 years is absolutely nuts!

And your way of thinking about it is by your "natural man/mind", and not with/through "the mind of Christ" that has been deposited within you. In fact, you have probably not accessed His mind for a long time, because you are too full of your own mind, and what it thinks it understands.

 

[Truth7t7]

It most assuredly is!! "I will come to you", albeit in the form of the Holy Spirit. Which is Himself manifesting Himself to us, who are of faith, in repentance towards God.
You are having a hard time grasping it, because of what religion has done to it all these years. In the mind of Christ within you, there is nothing against God to think in His truth about it. However, the world of religion and the religious cannot see beyond the four walls of their own denominational doctrines of men, and therefore can do nothing but spit and sputter against it.

We have run about the bush enough, the horse is dead, I Strongly Disagree!

 

[Davy]

Furthermore, men's theory of Amillennialism is allied with the OCCULT.

The doctrines of Amillennialism are behind the 'Kingdom Now' movement. These men believe that Jesus left the job of creating of His Kingdom on earth in TODAY'S WORLD, and they actually believe ALL peoples will eventually convert to Jesus Christ FOR TODAY'S PRESENT WORLD TIME. That idea of course is no where written in God's Word, but it IS... an idea the one-world globalists Occult followers are very serious about, as their god they worship is Lucifer, and they want to prepare Lucifer's kingdom on this earth for our near future.

And that is exactly what God is allowing them to do, for THIS PRESENT WORLD. This is why Lord Jesus is coming to END the coming "great tribulation" time He forewarned us about, and will destroy that false one who will attempt to play God in Jerusalem.

And that... is why Amillennialism is revealed to be a GNOSTIC DOCTRINE from the old pagan Occultists.

 

[Truth7t7]

Revelation 3:9 reveals the wicked are NOT DESTROYED at Christ's future return. You don't have a clue of what God's consuming fire is and will do on the "day of the Lord", you not able to discern spiritual things.

Your claim is "False"

(Destroyed Them All)

Luke 17:29-30KJV
29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

 

[Earburner]

Anyone can talk about Jesus The Messiah, but to say He has been in the PROCESS OF COMING for the last 2,000 years is absolutely nuts!

Ever since Pentecost, we are in the true millennium, the true meaning of when Joel 3:14 was to be fulfilled. We are living in it NOW!

 

[Truth7t7]

MAN'S WORKS is what is dissolved on that day, off the surface of this earth. If the earth were totally dissolved, many prophecies about Christ's future return could not happen, even the Acts 1 prophecy the two angels said.

Your claim is a fairy tale, 2 Peter 3:10-13 shows this literal earth will be "Dissolved" to its very "Elements"!

Of course you claim a little campfire will take place, because you want and desire a Millennial Kingdom on this earth,, that's found no place in scripture

 

[Earburner]

The wicked leftovers that came up against Jerusalem are shown STILL EXISTING in the later Zechariah 14:16 verse, and are made to go to Jerusalem to worship Christ Jesus!

Pure fantasy of your "own mind" and the fabricated doctrines of men, of which you refuse to trash, in spite of the mind of Christ within you, who is "lusting to envy" against your own indoctrinated mind.
James 4[3] Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
[4] Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God.
[5] Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy?
[6] But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.

 

[Earburner]

Your claim is a fairy tale, 2 Peter 3:10-13 shows this literal earth will be "Dissolved" to its very "Elements"!

Of course you claim a little campfire will take place, because you want and desire a Millennial Kingdom on this earth,, that's found no place in scripture

Quite literally, it's called being a "scoffer".

 

[Earburner]

Furthermore, men's theory of Amillennialism is allied with the OCCULT.

The doctrines of Amillennialism are behind the 'Kingdom Now' movement. These men believe that Jesus left the job of creating of His Kingdom on earth in TODAY'S WORLD, and they actually believe ALL peoples will eventually convert to Jesus Christ FOR TODAY'S PRESENT WORLD TIME. That idea of course is no where written in God's Word, but it IS... an idea the one-world globalists Occult followers are very serious about, as their god they worship is Lucifer, and they want to prepare Lucifer's kingdom on this earth for our near future.

And that is exactly what God is allowing them to do, for THIS PRESENT WORLD. This is why Lord Jesus is coming to END the coming "great tribulation" time He forewarned us about, and will destroy that false one who will attempt to play God in Jerusalem.

And that... is why Amillennialism is revealed to be a GNOSTIC DOCTRINE from the old pagan Occultists.

Religion (the tares) may be looking for a One world government on earth, but born again Christians, who ARE living and walking in His Spirit, KNOW without a shadow of doubt, that when Jesus suddenly APPEARS in all is Immortal Glory of flaming fire, the entirety of this world and the earth itself will be a Lake of Fire, whereby everything in it will be engulfed in molten lava, and be totally dissolved.