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The Petros Prophecy | (scottlively.net)

Good PDF to read about the false teaching of gay theology. And the End of Days judgement on them, and how gay theology is forcing its way into churches to be made acceptable.
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THE DAYS OF NOAH

After the expulsion of Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, followed by a thousand years of increasing sin by their descendants, God poured out His wrath in the form of a global flood (described in Genesis 6-9), which the ancient Hebrew rabbis taught was triggered by homosexual and bestial “marriages” (Talmud, Genesis Rabbah 26:5:4). The Talmudic text reads “The generation of the Flood was not blotted out of the world until they had begun writing nuptial hymns for marriages between males or between man and beast.” The Talmud is an ancient book of rabbinical commentary on what we call the Old Testament, that, at the time of its compilation, was roughly equivalent to the notes and commentary in a Christian Study Bible. There is much controversy among Christians about using the Talmud as a source but we cite it here only to show how the ancient world’s greatest authorities on their own native language interpreted the Hebrew Torah (the first five books of the Christian Bible). A comparison of relevant passages of the Old and New Testaments in the Christian Bible to the above quote from the Talmud confirms its logic:

“Then the LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great on the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart The LORD said, ‘I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the land, from man to animals to creeping things and to birds of the sky; for I am sorry that I have made them.’ But Noah found favor in the eyes of the LORD....And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth” (Genesis 6:5- 12). “As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark” (Matthew 24:37-38). The ancient scholars of Hebrew who wrote the Talmud stated expressly what Jesus Himself alluded to. He warned that in the time leading to His return, wicked people would be “marrying and giving in marriage” “as in the days of Noah” (Matthew 24:38), when “every intent of the thoughts of [their] heart was only evil continually” (Genesis 6:5). The truth of this would seem obvious if one simply asks the question, “What does marriage look like in a society of people whose every thought is only evil continually?” The main points here are that Biblical law and morality equate homosexuality with bestiality and that the human celebration of marriages based on these sexual perversions in the time of Noah represented the final insult to God triggering the Great Flood.
 
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I checked out the two faiths that I had been a part of in the past. And I saw that the Mormons supported the bill while the Catholics denounced it. Strange that Mormons supported it.

Mormon statement of support:
The Church of Jesus Christ Supports the Federal Fairness for All Act

Catholic denunciation:
The Equality Act
LDS Christians are against same sex marriage, seeing it as a sin against God’s ways. But it isn’t a reason to get fired from your job or kicked out of your apartment. People ( whom are all sinners) should be treated with respect.
 
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LDS Christians are against same sex marriage, seeing it as a sin against God’s ways. But it isn’t a reason to get fired from your job or kicked out of your apartment. People ( whom are all sinners) should be treated with respect.
Then it's hypocrisy. They are supporting same sex unions and acknowledging this new gender identity by supporting the bill openly. The old and new testament are clear. Same sex is against the law of God. And Christians should support that law to be righteous and honest before God. To be clean from the blood and sins of this world. People who break the law of the land are imprisoned. People who break the law of God go to hell.

Let's be honest.

At least the Catholics support God on the issue and had some guts.

And what does this law mean for religions? I think you're ignoring the impacts on churches. While I haven't read thru the bill, I will take heed of what the Catholics are saying:

"The bill is well-intentioned but ultimately misguided. The Equality Act discriminates against people of faith, threatens unborn life, and undermines the common good. "
 
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LDS Christians are against same sex marriage, seeing it as a sin against God’s ways. But it isn’t a reason to get fired from your job or kicked out of your apartment. People ( whom are all sinners) should be treated with respect.


I've got a lot of friends that are gay. They've been to church productions and know exactly where I stand. They also know I'm the greatest friend they will ever have. I don't judge, I just deliver the message ....
 
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I've got a lot of friends that are gay. They've been to church productions and know exactly where I stand. They also know I'm the greatest friend they will ever have. I don't judge, I just deliver the message ....

1 Corinthians 5:9 I wrote to you in my epistle not to keep company with sexually immoral people.
 

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Maybe we should take a closer look on what Mormons and SDA are supporting. I'm washing my hands of both churches and that bill:

The Equality Act has been called “the most invasive threat to religious liberty ever proposed in America.” It would amend the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 by forbidding discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation and gender identity. (The Equality Act: What Christians need to know - Denison Forum)

In addition, this is crucial: the Act forbids appeal to the 1993 Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) on the part of individuals or organizations. Here’s what this means in practice:

  • Faith-based hospitals and insurers could be forced to provide gender-transition therapies that violate their religious beliefs.
  • Children could seek to change their gender without parental knowledge or consent.
  • Faith-based adoption and foster care agencies could be forced to place children with same-sex couples or lose their licenses.
  • The Act would dismantle sex-specific facilities, sports, and other spaces. As a result, biological females would be forced to compete in sports with biological males and for athletic scholarships. Sexual assaults on girls in bathrooms and showers could escalate.
  • Faith-based schools and businesses could be forced to violate their beliefs regarding homosexual activity and LGBTQ behavior or face fines, censure, or worse.
  • Churches that rent their facilities to the public could be forced to rent them for same-sex marriages and other LGBTQ events.
 
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Interestingly I found this old Joseph Smith prophecy:

Smith's supposed original statement predicts that the US Constitution will one day "hang like a thread" but be saved by Latter-day Saints. The embellished version portrays it to be "by the efforts of the White Horse." White Horse Prophecy - Wikipedia

And noticed that it appears to be coming forth falsely as the Mormons are ignoring this bill and it's threat to the religious liberty in the constitution.
 

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Interestingly I found this old Joseph Smith prophecy:

Smith's supposed original statement predicts that the US Constitution will one day "hang like a thread" but be saved by Latter-day Saints. The embellished version portrays it to be "by the efforts of the White Horse." White Horse Prophecy - Wikipedia

And noticed that it appears to be coming forth falsely as the Mormons are ignoring this bill and it's threat to the religious liberty in the constitution.
Smith would say that wouldn't he.
 
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I've got a lot of friends that are gay. They've been to church productions and know exactly where I stand. They also know I'm the greatest friend they will ever have. I don't judge, I just deliver the message ....
And no one is arguing with your stance there. As I said, orthodox LDS Christianity considers against homosexual relationships to be against God's ways.
However we also believe that others shouldn't loose their job or house for believing differently. We don't live in a theocracy and everyone should be respected.
 

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And no one is arguing with your stance there. As I said, orthodox LDS Christianity considers against homosexual relationships to be against God's ways.
However we also believe that others shouldn't loose their job or house for believing differently. We don't live in a theocracy and everyone should be respected.
Interesting as that bill doesn't respect peoples right to practice Christianity adequately. I notice you still support the Mormon stance on the bill, but failed to address it's impacts on practicing sincere Christianity. See post #86. Along with what you consider to be the good of the bill, they snuck in a lot of deceptive evil that simply can't be overlooked by the Christian community.
 
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Not if they continued with their depraved ways.
Agree, the wrath of God abides on the wicked unbelievers still. All unbelievers are wicked, they refuse God's command to repent and believe in the Son, even if they do not know, people are still wicked and accountable for their sins to God.

John 3:36
He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”

Acts 17
30 Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, 31 because He has appointed a day on which He will judge the world in righteousness by the Man whom He has ordained. He has given assurance of this to all by raising Him from the dead.”
 
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Interesting as that bill doesn't respect peoples right to practice Christianity adequately. I notice you still support the Mormon stance on the bill, but failed to address it's impacts on practicing sincere Christianity. See post #86. Along with what you consider to be the good of the bill, they snuck in a lot of deceptive evil that simply can't be overlooked by the Christian community.
I disagree that Fred the Gay Man being able to have a job and an apartment is a threat to Christianity, especially when there are exceptions for religious employers in the law. I’m sorry you feel that way, and have no desire to discuss this further.
 

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I disagree that Fred the Gay Man being able to have a job and an apartment is a threat to Christianity, especially when there are exceptions for religious employers in the law. I’m sorry you feel that way, and have no desire to discuss this further.
Yes I'm noticing blind faith here. God gave us a brain to think for ourselves. So that we don't follow deceptive leaders.
 

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Yes I'm noticing blind faith here. God gave us a brain to think for ourselves. So that we don't follow deceptive leaders.
@devin553344, you're going for unfounded and personal attacks here. That's not like you.

Again: I disagree that Fred the Gay Man being able to have a job and an apartment is a threat to Christianity, especially when there are exceptions for religious employers in the law. I’m sorry you feel that way, and have no desire to discuss this further.
 

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@devin553344, you're going for unfounded and personal attacks here. That's not like you.

Again: I disagree that Fred the Gay Man being able to have a job and an apartment is a threat to Christianity, especially when there are exceptions for religious employers in the law. I’m sorry you feel that way, and have no desire to discuss this further.
When I was in the Marines they taught us an important lesson from Vietnam: Don't blindly follow orders from leadership. Especially if they are following some evil deed. Which was a problem in Vietnam. Just using my own brain to decide who I follow. It's not Mormons at this point.
 

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When I was in the Marines they taught us an important lesson from Vietnam: Don't blindly follow orders from leadership. Especially if they are following some evil deed. Which was a problem in Vietnam. Just using my own brain to decide who I follow. It's not Mormons at this point.
Once again this is a personal attack where you ignore what I said and erroneously assume I’m blindly following…

This isn’t your usual behavior Devin.
 

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@devin553344, you're going for unfounded and personal attacks here. That's not like you.

Again: I disagree that Fred the Gay Man being able to have a job and an apartment is a threat to Christianity, especially when there are exceptions for religious employers in the law. I’m sorry you feel that way, and have no desire to discuss this further.

Read this on what Apostle Peter wrote, and yes, this homosexuality is gangrenous to all of society and brings on the judgement of God. If you do you will see the truth of that. Click the download link on that page to read the PDF.
The Petros Prophecy | (scottlively.net)

Good PDF to read about the false teaching of gay theology. And the End of Days judgement on them, and how gay theology is forcing its way into churches to be made acceptable.
 
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Not if they continued with their depraved ways.
You would be amazed at how many within even churches DO NOT KNOW THIS NOR UNDERSTAND IT .
THEY THINK otherwise . BIBLES UP my friends and let us start learning THAT JESUS
and stop following another jesus that men have created .