"All things are lawful..."

[Phoneman777]

There is no "Judgement day" as found in Revelation 20:11, for those whose names are in the Lamb's Book of Life, and all the born again, are in there now and forever.

"Judgement day" as you are defining it, is for these......only....... John 3:36.

You're cult has not taught you the correct understanding about "damnation" or the "bema seat".

"We just ALL stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ".

 

[Phoneman777]

Write it out as a question, if you feel that you need me to respond.

1 John 2:3-4 KJV
1 John 5:2-3 KJV

If your "salvation" contains a provision for breaking the law (the OSAS License to Sin), you fail both tests!

 

[Behold]

People like you who preach we can continue in sin and still go to heaven are a Christian cult who've turned the grace of God into disgrace.

God accepts a sinner to be a SON.
Christ came into the world to "save sinners".
"God justifies the UNGODLY"..... through the blood of Jesus.

Salvation is not based on your behavior, after you are saved.. as Legalist like you preach.......Its only based on the Cross of Christ, as that is all God offers to redeem a Believer.

John 14:6

If a person who is like DEMAS....... is born again, then God accepts them based on Christ's Sacrifice and keeps them based on Christ's Sacrifice.

Legalism is the Cross Denying LIE that "God starts your salvation, but it up to you. to try to be good enough for the rest of your life, to keep it".

See that?
That is your RELIGION< and its your CULT's Religion, and its Cross Denying Deception.

 

[Phoneman777]

@Behold
We have a law in the USA against illegal immigration and the Biden administration refuses to enforce the law.

Is he and his administration acting in "keeping" with the law, yes or no?

 

[Behold]

"We just ALL stand before the Judgment Seat of Christ".

That is not a judgement for sin, as the born again have been forgiven.

God, in Revelation 20:11 is dealing with the Christ Rejectors.


You, like most bible noobs, who study commentaries written by idiots, who are not born again, end up always believing that the born again are going to be judged for sin, as if the Cross of Christ didn't happen.
You Grace denying cultists are just amazingly backward with regards to the Blood Atonement.
This is why you can't talk about the Cross of Christ, or the BLood of Jesus.
But you can rant all day about judgement, and sin, and works, and OSAS, as those are the deceivers bread and butter, as you know.

 

[Phoneman777]

God accepts a sinner to be a SON.
Christ came into the world to "save sinners".
"God justifies the UNGODLY"..... through the blood of Jesus.

Salvation is not based on your behavior, after you are saved.. as Legalist like you preach.......Its only based on the Cross of Christ, as that is all God offers to redeem a Believer.

John 14:6

If a person who is like DEMAS....... is born again, then God accepts them based on Christ's Sacrifice and keeps them based on Christ's Sacrifice.

Legalism is the Cross Denying LIE that "God starts your salvation, but it up to you. to try to be good enough for the rest of your life, to keep it".

See that?
That is your RELIGION< and its your CULT's Religion, and its Cross Denying Deception.

Stop talking about what salvation is based on and start talking about what the evidence for salvation is!

We all know it's based on "grace through faith, not works".

Now, what is the outward evidence for both salvation and rejection of the same?

That's right: obedience and disobedience.

Your doctrine is not characteristic of what is true inward salvation because it makes provision (OSAS License to Sin) to DENY the outward evidence John says proves it so.

 

[Behold]

1 John 2:3-4 KJV
1 John 5:2-3 KJV

If your "salvation" contains a provision for breaking the law (the OSAS License to Sin), you fail both tests!

You have already broken all the 10 commandments, in deed or thought.
so, who are you kidding with your self righteous, nonsense, Phoneman777?
And if you come and say you haven't then you just LIED< and now that is one more sin you get to confess today.

Also, there are the Commandments of JESUS< and those, are what you mean, but you don't realize it.

 

[Behold]

Stop talking about what salvation is based on and start talking about what the evidence for salvation is!

Sure.

The evidence of Salvation, is one ....one true evidence, only.

A.) Born again

Being born again, is the only true evidence that God lives in the person and The person is "in Christ".

"bearing fruit"... "doing good works".. "Keeping commandments...this can be done by an unbeliever and by a fake "christian". , but being born again, is a different situation.

 

[Phoneman777]

That is not a judgement for sin, as the born again have been forgiven.

God, in Revelation 20:11 is dealing with the Christ Rejectors.


You, like most bible noobs, who study commentaries written by idiots, who are not born again, end up always believing that the born again are going to be judged for sin, as if the Cross of Christ didn't happen.
You Grace denying cultists are just amazingly backward with regards to the Blood Atonement.
This is why you can't talk about the Cross of Christ, or the BLood of Jesus.
But you can rant all day about judgement, and sin, and works, and OSAS, as those are the deceivers bread and butter, as you know.

Oh, brother, more of the OSAS License to Sin "consequences" where we find out how many jewels we lost...

Wrong!

Revelation 22:11-14 KJV
[11] He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
[12] And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
[13] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
[14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

DOES IT SOUND LIKE THE "REWARD" IS ABOUT STUPID JEWELS IN CROWNS OR ABOUT ENTERING OR NOT ENTERING THE KINGDOM??????

 

[Phoneman777]

You have already broken all the 10 commandments, in deed or thought.
so, who are you kidding with your self righteous, nonsense, Phoneman777?
And if you come and say you haven't then you just LIED< and now that is one more sin you get to confess today.

Also, there are the Commandments of JESUS< and those, are what you mean, but you don't realize it.

And here lies the problem...you're kindergarten Bible teacher you listen to every week never told you about the difference between the Just Man and the Presumptuous OSAS License to Sin Man.

 

[Behold]

Oh, brother, more of the OSAS License to Sin "consequences" where we find out how many jewels we lost...

It might not please you to know that what you are trying to describe is not anything that is making sense.

So, if you are trying to talk about meeting Christ and being rewarded, then that would be the "judgement seat of Christ'.

But the "jewels" thing..that you keep posting about that has no CONTEXT........is just a wild rant.
Do better, at least explain your idea.

 

[Phoneman777]

Sure.

The evidence of Salvation, is one ....one true evidence, only.

A.) Born again

Being born again, is the only true evidence that God lives in the person and The person is "in Christ".

"bearing fruit"... "doing good works".. "Keeping commandments...this can be done by an unbeliever and by a fake "christian". , but being born again, is a different situation.

NO. John says the evidence is that we keep the commandments.

Your "salvation" grants a OSAS License to Sin provision for breaking them by claiming we may continue in sin and still go to heaven, albeit with a few less jewels in our crown.

That's lie straight from the pits of hell.

 

[Behold]

And here lies the problem...you're kindergarten Bible teacher you listen to every week never told you about the difference between the Just Man and the Presumptuous OSAS License to Sin Man.

I dont listen to any Kindergarten Bible Teacher(s)
You are mistaken, again.

And here is a fact for you...if you are saved, ....if......then every sin you have committed until today, you chose you do.... willfully., presumptuously.
And if you say..>"no all my sins are accidents, i didn't mean to commit", then you are a LIAR, who just lied again, and that's one more willful sin.

So, you to slow down a bit, as you are in a hole and you just keep digging, Phoneman777.

 

[Phoneman777]

It might not please you to know that what you are trying to describe is not anything that is making sense.

So, if you are trying to talk about meeting Christ and being rewarded, then that would be the "judgement seat of Christ'.

But the "jewels" thing..that you keep posting about that has no CONTEXT........is just a wild rant.
Do better, at least explain your idea.

It's what you teach. The only "consequences" you silly OSAS License to Sin teachers acknowledge is the loss of a few jewels in our crowns or misery while down here or forfeiture of temporal blessings.

Really?

What about the going to hell? Peter talks about saved people who end up "again entangled" in the world and will be worse off than before they got saved.

Your OSAS License to Sin doctrine doesn't exist.

 

[Behold]

NO. John says the evidence is that we keep the commandments.

"and HIS commandments are not grievous"...

That "His" is JESUS.

So, you are giving a backwards test, thinking John is talking about the 10 commandments.
You didn't even get this right.
You are batting @!000% in cult - false- theology.

 

[Behold]

What about the going to hell? Peter talks about saved people who end up "again entangled" in the world and will be worse off than before they got saved.

But he does not say you are going to hell for that Backsliding.
YOU try to twist that verse to say...>"hell" is the "worse off".
Peter doesn't.

See, your issue, one of them, theologically, is that you dont understand that God's Salvation is not based on how you behave.
Legalists like you, never understand this, as that is the darkened mind that can't allow the Light of the Gospel to have any entrance or penetration.

 

[Phoneman777]

I dont listen to any Kindergarten Bible Teacher(s)
You are mistaken, again.

And here is a fact for you...if you are saved, ....if......then every sin you have committed until today, you chose you do.... willfully., presumptuously.
And if you say..>"no all my sins are accidents, i didn't mean to commit", then you are a LIAR, who just lied again, and that's one more willful sin.

So, you to slow down a bit, as you are in a hole and you just keep digging, Phoneman777.

You're a "Courtyard Christian". You linger around the Altar of Burnt Offering and have no desire to be "cleansed" by the Laver of Christ's cleansing power, no desire to eat of the Bread of Life which is His Word, non desire to know the Light of truth which is obedience to His law, no desire to have your prayers mingled with the Incense of His righteousness, and especially no desire to enter in His presence where is the Ten Commadndments defining true Love of God and man, the Budded Staff of righteous works springing from formerly dead branches, and the Manna of life sustaining power of Jesus, the Bread come down from heaven.

Yours is a shallow religion of desperation which allows people to cling to sin and Jesus at the same time.

 

[Behold]

It's what you teach. The only "consequences" you silly OSAS License to Sin teachers acknowledge is the loss of a few jewels in our crowns or misery while down here or forfeiture of temporal blessings.
.

There is earthly consequence for living in sin, as a believer....or living carnally, committing works of the Flesh.
I wrote about those, in that Thread i posted to you.
There are many "losses".. but Salvation isn't one if them, as Salvation is not related to your behavior.

Also, if you live carnally, and finally die early, as a consequence of being born again and refusing to stop living carnally then, your salvation is still as it was when you came to God as a SINNER.
Salvation does not change.....as Salvation is Christ on the CRoss....as its eternal, and its not based on our behavior. Its only based on God giving it to us as a "gift".

 

[Phoneman777]

But he does not say you are going to hell for that Backsliding.
YOU try to twist that verse to say...>"hell" is the "worse off".
Peter doesn't.

See, your issue, one of them, theologically, is that you dont understand that God's Salvation is not based on how you behave.
Legalists like you, never understand this, as that is the darkened mind that can't allow the Light of the Gospel to have any entrance or penetration.

You Licensed Sinners can't see that "the latter end of them is worse than the beginning" refers to hellfire?

What, do you not know in the beginning they were on the road to hell, then "escaped" to the Path of the Just, but wound up back on the road to hell?

 

[Behold]

You're a "Courtyard Christian".

Actually im just a born again Christian, in the ministry, who for a while now, has dealt with deceived Legalist's, who are cult bred.

You are the end product of your Cult., as only a cult teaches against the Grace of God, by twisting it into "license" and "licentiousness".