Everyone Who Argues Against the Deity of Jesus

[marks]

Let me put it this way mate- Do you and your chums in the 'Jesus was God' brigade really think God spent 29 years in a carpenter's shop making tables and chairs?..:)

Well, I'm not dogmatic about the 29 years, I don't know exactly how many years He would have worked in Joseph's shop, but yes, why, do you find it incredible? We also think that God was baptized by John in the Jordan river. Yes, Jesus Christ the Righteous, baptized there in the muddy water! Unbelievable! That He would condescend Himself . . . to that!

Philippians 2:5-8 KJV
5) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6) Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7) But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8) And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Imagine! God . . . hanging naked on a wooden cross, nailed there, to hang there until dead. Little did they know!

But mustly I just want to bring to people's attention what's happening here on this forum, and that we would all at least be honest with ourselves and others. It's a good exercise!

Much love!

 

[RLT63]

I was on a forum one time where the rule - standard on many forums - was no one was allowed to say anything negative about the Trinity. I didn’t say anything - good, bad, or indifferent - about the Trinity. I only spoke about the Messiah’s God. I was soon permanently banned. (I think I made around 100 posts, give or take a few.) Reason given by the moderator for the ban: violating the forum rule which expressly prohibited speaking anything negative about the Trinity!

I've tried some other forums but you post something and someone might reply a week later. Too slow for me.

 

[marks]

I don't know. Some threads don't interest me. So, I do not post in them. If these debates are actually a concern to you, consider letting them be active without your participation. As one church I went to said.

As I read your reply, I don't get the feeling that you've really read what you are replying to.

You seem to be imagining me in some emotional state or something. But non-sequitor replies are common.

But when I point out that those who post against the Trinity are not honoring their membership agreement, you get personal. Why is that, do you suppose?

What prevents you from simply acknowledging this fact? Instead of deflecting in an ad hominem? Pick your fallacy . . . you picked that one.

Much love! A genuine concern for your well being . . .

 

[Pearl]

Matthew 1:18 & 20
This is how the birth of Jesus the Messiah came about: His mother Mary was pledged to be married to Joseph, but before they came together, she was found to be pregnant through the Holy Spirit.
But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, “Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit.

If Jesus was only a man it would have taken a man to impregnate her. But Jesus' conception was supernatural, so although he looked like a man he was a supernatural being - ie God incarnate. Immanuel - God with us.

 

[Raccoon1010]

. . . is violating the agreement you made with this site when you joined.

Do you care?

Is that Honorable? Does that show Integrity? Were you being honest?

Christianity Board Statement of Faith

The below clearly outlines the core, closed-handed, and Christian orthodox issues that we expect members of Christianity Board to uphold. We accept that this declaration essentially defines Christianity for Christianity Board. Disagreement with the below, we believe, places one outside the realm of reasonable orthodox Christianity.

We believe that God is the Creator, Sustainer, and Ruler of the universe. We attest that God has eternally existed in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three are co-equal and are one God. (Genesis 1:1, 26-27, Genesis 3:22, Deuteronomy 6:4, Psalm 90:2, John 1:1, John 10:30, Romans 3:30, II Corinthians 13:14, I Peter 1:2)

We believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and is co-equal with the Father. Jesus lived a completely sinless human life and offered himself freely on the cross as the perfect sacrifice for the sins of all, according to God’s plan revealed from the beginning. After three days, Jesus arose from the dead to demonstrate his power over death. He ascended to heaven to await his future return as King of Kings and Lord of Lords. (Genesis 3:15, Isaiah 9:6-7, Matthew 1:22-25, John 1:1-5, John 14:10-30, Acts 1:9-11, Romans 1:3-4, I Corinthians 15:3-4, I Timothy 6:14-15, Titus 2:3, Hebrews 4:14-15)

We believe that the Holy Spirit is equal with the Father and Son (Jesus). He is present in this world as an intercessor to make men and women aware of their need for Jesus the Christ. The Holy Spirit resides in every believer from the moment of salvation. He empowers the Christian with strength for living, understanding the truth, witnessing to others, and in doing what is right. (John 14:16-17, John 16:7-13, Acts 1:8, I Corinthians 2:12, I Corinthians 3:16, II Corinthians 3:17, Galatians 5:16-25, Ephesians 1:13-14, Ephesians 5:18-21)

Did you join under false pretenses?

Will you be honest with yourself?

Much love!

Yes I see threads that attack denominations and nothing is done. I don't so much care though. Perhaps people will eventually accept that Jesus is the son of God and therefor part of God.

 

[Dropship]

Let me put it this way mate- Do you and your chums in the 'Jesus was God' brigade really think God spent 29 years in a carpenter's shop making tables and chairs?..:)

So that is definitely a NO..

Ah so we agree that God was never a carpenter.
Therefore Jesus couldn't have been God..:)

 

[Dropship]

..We also think that God was baptized by John in the Jordan river.

Wait a minute, if Jesus was God, why did he need baptising?..:)

 

[RLT63]

Wait a minute, if Jesus was God, why did he need baptising?..:)

John's baptism was for repentance. Why would Jesus need to repent or have his sins washed away, he never sinned?
Act 19:4

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Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

 

[Raccoon1010]

Wait a minute, if Jesus was God, why did he need baptising?..:)

Baptism is a symbol of death and resurrection. Jesus was baptized in symbol of how he would be the Messiah:

Romans 6:3-5
Matthew 28:19-20

 

[Dropship]

If Jesus was God, why did he say-
"Only God knows when judgment day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)

 

[RLT63]

If Jesus was God, why did he say-
"Only God knows when judgment day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)

Because the Father sends the Son, he was speaking of the Wedding Model, and that is a bad translation you are quoting from
The Wedding Model: Pattern is Prologue: The Rapture, Part 2: – Chuck Missler – Koinonia House

 

[Raccoon1010]

If Jesus was God, why did he say-
"Only God knows when judgment day will be, I don't know myself" (Mark 13:32)

I've wondered that same question. He also said no one is good except for God. But the scriptures also state that he is God.

The answer could be that is that he is now exalted to God hood and wasn't before the crucifixion.

 

[marks]

Ah so we agree that God was never a carpenter.
Therefore Jesus couldn't have been God..:)

This is your reply?

Don't worry, I didn't expect anything more than I've received.

Much love!

 

[marks]

Wait a minute, if Jesus was God, why did he need baptising?..:)

According to the website SOF, Jesus IS God.

John asked Him the same question.

Much love!

 

[amigo de christo]

I've wondered that same question. He also said no one is good except for God. But the scriptures also state that he is God.

The answer could be that is that he is now exalted to God hood and wasn't before the crucifixion.

the latter part sounds a wee bit too new agey for me . Not saying you are new age of course .
How about this , GOD IS HIS WORD . AND JESUS came to shew us HOW WE OUGHT TO WORSHIP GOD .
Notice JESUS always pointed to the FATHER . The mormons believe some serious wacked out things .
I say its simple enough if we just beleive what is already written , EVEN IF WE CANNOT fully understand this .
SO allow me a few words .
IN the beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with GOD and GOD IS THE WORD . That is all i need to know .
Thomas figured it out . MY LORD and my GOD . Simply beleive JESUS IS THE CHRIST , THE SON OF GOD
and believe every word written in that bible . And lift those hands and praise the LORD .
OH one more reminder . WE WONT EVER BECOME GOD . SO for those who are teaching that kind of junk
My advice is , REBUKE THEM and that lie . This lil god stuff has gotta go . I have heard folks saying
things like WE ARE CHRIST . You gotta know that is a lie . AND We become GOD . What a lie .
I say , why not just LIVE as JESUS DID . HE Wore a crown of thorns and lived no better off than even his own desicples .
I SAY , ITS TIME TO END TITLES like MOST HOLY FATHER or MOST HOLY REVERAND to men . THAT TRASH HAS TO GO .
Cause i think we both know , THE ONLY ONE WHO IS GOOD IS GOD and TO call men MOST HOLY FATHER or most HOLY reverand
IS BLAPHEMOUS . THOSE TITLES BELONG TO GOD ALONE . WE should just be lowly thankful souls always PRAISING GOD ,
CHRIST and never seeking glory for ourselves .

 

[RLT63]

Ah so we agree that God was never a carpenter.
Therefore Jesus couldn't have been God..:)

On a thread about people who argue against the deity of Christ being in violation of the rules you are arguing against the deity of Christ.

 

[amigo de christo]

According to the website SOF, Jesus IS God.

John asked Him the same question.

Much love!

JESUS , as john well knew , DIDNT NEED TO BE BAPTIZED . THE ONLY REASON HE WAS
was he CAME TO FULLFILL THE LAW . DROPSHIP needs to be rebuked .
How dare folks even THINK JESUS NEEDED to DO THIS OR THAT . HE WAS ALREADY RIGHTEOUS .
HE SIMPLY DID IT FOR OUR SAKES . cause we mere men have TRANSNGRESSED about everything every written .
JESUS DIDNT NEED to DO . HE SIMPLY DID FOR OUR SAKE . PEROID . I HOPE THAT SINKS IN REAL DEEP .
I say its time we THANK HIM and stop entertaining those who always try and DEMOTE CHRIST .

 

[amigo de christo]

According to the website SOF, Jesus IS God.

John asked Him the same question.

Much love!

exactly JOHN KNEW . HE KNEW . JOHN said I NEED TO BE BAPTIZED FROM YOU .
BUT JESUS KNEW HE HAD TO FULLFILL ALL THINGS , FOR OUR SAKE .
FOR OUR SAKE . NOT FOR HIS SAKE . FOR OURS . DROP SHIP NEEDS To be REBUKED for even THINKING such a thing .

 

[Pearl]

Matthew 8:23-28 Then he got into the boat and his disciples followed him. Suddenly a furious storm came up on the lake, so that the waves swept over the boat. But Jesus was sleeping. The disciples went and woke him, saying, “Lord, save us! We’re going to drown!”He replied, “You of little faith, why are you so afraid?” Then he got up and rebuked the winds and the waves, and it was completely calm.The men were amazed and asked, “What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!”

Luke 8:22-25
One day Jesus said to his disciples, “Let us go over to the other side of the lake.” So they got into a boat and set out. As they sailed, he fell asleep. A squall came down on the lake, so that the boat was being swamped, and they were in great danger.

The disciples went and woke him, saying, “Master, Master, we’re going to drown!”

He got up and rebuked the wind and the raging waters; the storm subsided, and all was calm. “Where is your faith?” he asked his disciples.

In fear and amazement they asked one another, “Who is this? He commands even the winds and the water, and they obey him.”

 

[amigo de christo]

According to the website SOF, Jesus IS God.

John asked Him the same question.

Much love!

LIFT THOSE HANDS and Let the GLORIOUS LORD BE PRAISED . JESUS DIDNT DO what HE DID to become RIGHTEOUS
HE DID what He did FOR us , FOR OUR SAKE . FOLKS NEED TO KNOW THAT .