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Robert Gwin

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Wow you are that gullible! that is the truths of the Word, not how to translate languages or perform a delicate medical procedure.

Remind me to never trust anyone in you rfamily with a task that needs an education to do.

May I suggest that you daily read Gal 5:22,23 Ron. I find I need to read them often as well sir.
 
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Do some research and find out why the New World Mistranslation of the Scripture is a mistranslation. There are many good, average, fair and poor translations and many paraphrases., but teh NWT does not even qualify as a bad paraphrase.

By adding the word other in John 1 and Philippians 2 the authors condemned themselves if they did not recant of this demonic rewrite of Scripture!, that is just two of numerous hideous mangling of language the authors with no knowledge of Greek or Hebrew did to Gods Word. This sounds harsh, but it is tthe nicest things I can say about those who write and approve of this hideous document.

I find it best not to alter a version to support your beliefs sir, especially when you do it inconsistently as seen in Jn 1 and Acts 28
 

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God let them speak in tongues(foreign languages) even though they never had before. By using holy spirit to guide their words. So if it takes using foreign languages to guide into all truth, and correct bible errors so this truth becomes fact-Daniel 12:4) its nothing for God to accomplish that.
You sound like the pharisees who were saying--it is impossible for Jesus and his apostles to be spiritual teachers, they did not attend our schools of men. Jesus' real teachers do not need the schools of men, they get holy spirit.
Wow you really are stretching! Now you sound like a Mormon who buys in to the Joseph Smith story about having magic classes to read the Uram and Thummim. Yes God can do anything- Now show that He did! Especially inlight of anyone can get online Greek and show that teh uneducated Watchtower translators mistranslated Gods Word! God has some harsh things to say about the.
 

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May I suggest that you daily read Gal 5:22,23 Ron. I find I need to read them often as well sir.

Well I have it memorized and ponder it often.

Still doesn't change the fact that if one wishes to accomplish something and has no education in that something- I do not trust them.
 

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I find it best not to alter a version to support your beliefs sir, especially when you do it inconsistently as seen in Jn 1 and Acts 28

So you should write to your headquarters and tell them to trash that abomination called the New World translation.
 

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Great! I am glad we agree the man Jesus was procreated. Let's reason on this a bit Ron, may I ask you who the faithful witness is in Rev 1:5 sir

And sir- you only have the conjecture of the governing body telling you that before Jesus was given teh name Jesus (when he became man) He was Michael. But phil. 2 says He existed as God. YOu seem to only like to deal with the easy side of the debate.
 

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Wow you really are stretching! Now you sound like a Mormon who buys in to the Joseph Smith story about having magic classes to read the Uram and Thummim. Yes God can do anything- Now show that He did! Especially inlight of anyone can get online Greek and show that teh uneducated Watchtower translators mistranslated Gods Word! God has some harsh things to say about the.
Some Greek scholars( unbias-non trinitarian) sat the NWT is the best ever.
 
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Wow you really are stretching! Now you sound like a Mormon who buys in to the Joseph Smith story about having magic classes to read the Uram and Thummim. Yes God can do anything- Now show that He did! Especially inlight of anyone can get online Greek and show that teh uneducated Watchtower translators mistranslated Gods Word! God has some harsh things to say about the.

Actually Ron, the Bible point blank states that God cannot lie sir.
 

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Well I have it memorized and ponder it often.

Still doesn't change the fact that if one wishes to accomplish something and has no education in that something- I do not trust them.

Now all one has to do is put it into practice. It is not easy, and we will always fail at times, but for the most part those fruits can be displayed.
 

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And sir- you only have the conjecture of the governing body telling you that before Jesus was given teh name Jesus (when he became man) He was Michael. But phil. 2 says He existed as God. YOu seem to only like to deal with the easy side of the debate.
He had to be called something correct? What do you discern from reading Rev 12:7-9 and then 2 Thes 1:6-9, would you say the same individual is leading the charge here sir? Who is the seed of Gen 3:15 that will eventually crush satan Ron? When Jesus returns according to 1 Thes 4, would he come with a lesser voice than his authority? v16 Pray for understanding Ron.
 

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Some Greek scholars( unbias-non trinitarian) sat the NWT is the best ever.


Okay list them and cite the quote that says the NWT is the best translation ever! I await your proof of this claim. And no one is unbiased. If they are non-trinitarian, that is their bias!
 

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Now all one has to do is put it into practice. It is not easy, and we will always fail at times, but for the most part those fruits can be displayed.

As I do . NOt perfectly. but remember displaying the fruit of the Spirit does not make one saved. They are the result of being saved.

Well I am off till Thurs-Fri. Have to pack my computer up for our big move.
 
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He had to be called something correct? What do you discern from reading Rev 12:7-9 and then 2 Thes 1:6-9, would you say the same individual is leading the charge here sir? Who is the seed of Gen 3:15 that will eventually crush satan Ron? When Jesus returns according to 1 Thes 4, would he come with a lesser voice than his authority? v16 Pray for understanding Ron.

I pray daily, and that understanding never leads to Jesus being a created angel. that is human philosophy reinterpreting Scripture.
 

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Okay list them and cite the quote that says the NWT is the best translation ever! I await your proof of this claim. And no one is unbiased. If they are non-trinitarian, that is their bias!
I dont need to prove it. I know its fact. I know the NWT is correct with 0 doubt in all creation. It just takes believing Jesus to know it. No trinitarian i ever spoke with will believe him.
 

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Okay list them and cite the quote that says the NWT is the best translation ever! I await your proof of this claim. And no one is unbiased. If they are non-trinitarian, that is their bias!
Who authored the Bible Ron? Who was it written for? That may help considerably in understanding why there are so many Versions out there sir.
 

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Actually Bob, God doesn't lie- but the Watchtower routinely does, sir.
Yes sir I have to agree, not only the Watchtower, but all of our publications are far from being absolute truth for sure. As God reveals His truths, we print them. Heck it wasn't all that long ago we were still celebrating Christmas, as if it was Jesus' birthday. We actually realize that until satan and those who follow him is erradicated, then there will not be such a thing as absolute truth for all things.
 
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