You are are not proving your position. You have studied a theology, and are weaving it into the scriptures. Nowhere does any of these passages say "flesh nature" is depraved.Paul settles this rather easily when he said "the first man was of the dust of the earth" in other words his nature was corruptible from the beginning and had a nature which had the propensity to sin. His mind wasn't infected until his conscience was defiled...but that has nothing to do with his nature which was always of the earth. Adam could never be immortalized in that earthy nature so the argument is mute and pointless.
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Correct, in moral capacity this is true....but not in his nature! Temptation to sin comes from flesh nature!
28:15 You were blameless in your behavior from the day you were created, until sin was discovered in you.
True - blameless... speaking to the King of Tyre (not sure why you used that reference?) the King held a privileged position with God and Israel until he became proud.
Correct - man is a standing creature with the capacity to morally discern God's Words.
"Very good" simply relates to the state of His creation - not perfect! It was pleasing for Him to see the work of His Hands. If you are trying to force some meaning on Adams nature as being pure or perfect - this would be a failure on your part.
This is the Spiritual Mind being developed in us. "There is no good thing in human nature"...it has a mind of its own and from it men are defiled - reason for Christ being crucified was to crucify the flesh and its lusts.
Galatians 5:24-26 – Keeping in step with the Spirit. And those who are Christ's have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking one another, envying one another.
Correct - man was created for the purpose of being a righteous being, but this does not relate to the flesh nature...."Let this mind be in you which was in Christ Jesus!"
Try again if you like.
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I was right about you, you believe the natural word, material word is by nature corrupt.
GIVE SCRIPTURE NOT YOUR THEOLOGY. That makes you a follower of Gnosticism.
Explain what you mean by flesh nature? You need to define it with SCRIPTURE.
Your response to Genesis 1:31 below,
You say Gods creation is corrupt when you refer to mans nature.Very good simply relates to the state of His creation - not perfect! It was pleasing for Him to see the work of His Hands
You can say that all you want but the Bible says the opposite.
God teaches we are good. Our nature must be good.
Where did God say his creation was corrupt? He did not, you did.
Genesis 1:31,
-Then God saw everything that He has made and indeed it was very good.
You contradicted this passage by saying mans nature is not good.
You are not speaking as the Bible speaks, but some theology you believe in.
You are contradicting what Gods word said. You say men are defiled from their own nature THAT GOD GAVE THEM!!! O, boy! Now, tell me are babies also defiled?. "There is no good thing in human nature"...it has a mind of its own and from it men are defiled
You said of Adam his nature is defiled also, below,
O, brother, you don't read this in these scriptures!!! You have a theology that has a philosophy that you insert into the text.Correct in moral capacity this is true alone but not in nature!
SO, ACCORDING TO FACE2FACE GOD CREATED ADAM WITH A FLESH NATURE THAT WAS WICKED, DEFILED. Sir, you are a Gnostic! That is crazy, to believe God created Adam to be wicked by nature.
That makes God evil and unjust. God created us evil by nature then condemns us for being wicked! O, brother.
This next quote below is a contradiction. You are not making sense Sir,
Do you listen to yourself?Correct - man was create for the purpose of being a righeous being but this does not relate to the flesh nature....
You are telling me, God created man to be righteous, then contradict yourself and say God created Adam with a nature that is unrighteous, wicked, depraved, defiled. O, brother.
So let me get this straight, according to you God wants us to be righteous but gave us a defiled nature.
Um? that is too hard to swallow.
You said of Ezekiel 28:15, below,
-You were perfect in your ways from the DAY you were CREATED. till inquity was found in you.
Blameless speaking to the king of Tyre is your response.28:15 You were blameless in your behavior from the day you were created, until sin was discovered in you.
True - blameless speaking to the King of Tyre (not sure why you used that reference?)
Do you ignore passages that don't fit your theology?
What does the passage say? I'll tell you what it doesn't say,
Quote: "blameless speaking to the king of Tyre".
That must be what your doctrinal teacher's explain when they read this verse.
Now I just let the Bible say what it says without my interpretation.
Ezekiel 28:15
-You were perfect in your ways from the DAY YOU WERE CREATED.
You understand the writer said perfect from birth? From the day he was created.
That is not what you said Sir. You need to start believing the Bible. Throw away your presuppositional bias. Empty your mind and just read the passage.