I’m Not Going To Hell; How About You? = John 14;6, John 14;10-14

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Tommy Cool

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This is exactly what a natural man does! He is not acquainted with Scripture and therefore he cannot see nor understand spiritual things, because they are spiritually discerned, therefore he will see them as conjectures, useless, and thinks it steps outside of the boundaries of truth.

How can a cool Christian NOT know what is meant by the Tree of Life, which, BTW, is the most important tree at the Garden of Eden?

To God Be The Glory
Biblically the natural man… is a man of body and soul …no spirit of God.
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*So God has magnified His Word above all His name Psa 138:2

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He has given us all things that pertain to Life and Godliness 2Pe 1:3

*All scripture is God breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness 2Ti 3:16

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Because of all scripture → the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2Ti 3:17

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That We have a more sure word of prophecy than being eye witness of seeing Jesus Christ being transformed on the mount. And that no prophecy of the scripture is of any one’s own interpretation….as it was given by the Holy Ghost. 2Pe 1:16-21

~ That is why the Word of God is my only source for truth ~


There are several things in the Word that I can almost make the connection on, but the Bible does not specifically state or make the connection…. and I won’t jump the curb. If I do speculate on something I will make it clear that it is conjecture.
God’s Word does interpret itself …and the things that God wants us to know …. Are declared in His Word... anything else ….we can watch the video when I get to heaven.
 

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And on that note , we better make sure its the BIBLICAL JESUS we are following
cause the other jesus getting preached by many cannot save them nor those who sit under them .
Satan knows how to use names and words too . SO we better know the JESUS and the doctrine FOLLOWS THE JESUS and HIS doctrine
and the doctrine the apostels left us in said bible . OR WE IS A FOLLOWING ANOTHER jesus . and ps there is a reason i did not capitalize that jesus .
CAUSE IT AINT JESUS and it cannot save .
Amen to that. Lotsa false Jesuses out there.
 
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I’m Not Going To Hell; How About You? = John 14;6, John 14;10-14
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John 14;6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

John 14;10-13
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, He doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

John 14:19-21
Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Matthew 5:29-30
And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

Proverbs 27:20
Hell and destruction are never full; so the eyes of man are never satisfied.

Isaiah 5:14
Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.

Matthew 10;28
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Matthew 18:9
And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire.

Mark 9:43
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:

Mark 9;45-48
And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Luke 12;5
But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, which after He hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear Him.

Isaiah 14:9
Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

II Peter 2:4-9
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds; The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

Revelation 20:13-15
And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

John 14;6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.


AMEN
imo there is virtually no excuse in this day and age to continue holding this false understanding of “hel,” imported by norse/angle scribes…and that should be all you need to search and find the truth
Gehenna is on Erets, sis
 

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Christ was in hades-sheol, the place of all the dead in the Old Testament where man went at death, for 3 days and nights in the heart of the earth, He was really there in that place
WRONG INTERPRETATION! That can never happen because of
2 Corinthian 5:8-9.

Ephesians 4:7-10 reads:
7) But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.
8) Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men
9) (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10) He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
It was not Christ's body like you saying in the grave and his soul in heaven with God, this was His SOUL.
The concept of man's whole being IS his soul [Genesis 2:7]. Those who died in Christ before the cross, were placed in prison as captives. Jesus never experienced corruption! Jesus was already dead as the soldiers came to break His legs as the manner of the crucifixion for those who were still alive, as you rightly pointed out in Ps. 16:10
Abraham's bosum was Paradise in the Old Testament.
Abraham's bosom represents God Himself [remember 2 Co. 5:8?] I don't know how you acquired your knowledge of spiritual things, but they need to be revamped. Or you'll find yourself under...."I never knew you"!

they were the dead in the Lord who died in faith but had not yet received the promise of eternal life.
You really have enforced your lack of knowledge in the spiritual things of God. When a person gets saved, immediately he is given eternal life, besides, no one gets saved by their faith! It is impossible.

To God Be The Glory
 

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Amen! I'm not going to Hell.
*Happy dances with you* :waves:

joy:joy:
The lambs have CHRIST JESUS and its eternal life forever with HE who saved us . The end of a lamb is real , real good .
Paradise forever with the glorious Lord .
The only name whereby one may be saved . JESUS CHRIST . No other path and religoin can save .
Now lift those hands up and let the LORD be praised .
 
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The lambs have CHRIST JESUS and its eternal life forever with HE who saved us . The end of a lamb is real , real good .
Paradise forever with the glorious Lord .
The only name whereby one may be saved . JESUS CHRIST . No other path and religoin can save .
Now lift those hands up and let the LORD be praised .


And never forget—— “ No hope with the Pope”...... you are slipping....lol....
 
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Biblically the natural man… is a man of body and soul …no spirit of God.
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*So God has magnified His Word above all His name Psa 138:2

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He has given us all things that pertain to Life and Godliness 2Pe 1:3

*All scripture is God breathed, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness 2Ti 3:16

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Because of all scripture → the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2Ti 3:17

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That We have a more sure word of prophecy than being eye witness of seeing Jesus Christ being transformed on the mount. And that no prophecy of the scripture is of any one’s own interpretation….as it was given by the Holy Ghost. 2Pe 1:16-21

~ That is why the Word of God is my only source for truth ~


There are several things in the Word that I can almost make the connection on, but the Bible does not specifically state or make the connection…. and I won’t jump the curb. If I do speculate on something I will make it clear that it is conjecture.
God’s Word does interpret itself …and the things that God wants us to know …. Are declared in His Word... anything else ….we can watch the video when I get to heaven.
Really? Is that how you assess a natural man to be, a body and soul... and no spirit of God?

How did he live without the spirit of God? Isn't God the source of the living?

To God Be The Glory
 
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Really? Is that how you assess a natural man to be, a body and soul... and no spirit of God?

How did he live without the spirit of God? Isn't God the source of the living?

To God Be The Glory
Are you done changing you question….or should I wait?

That is how God determines a natural man in the Bible …. But I am sure you have another.
 

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2Co 12:1-5 are good verses to bring up…. because it shows the distinction between Paradise and the 3rd heaven.

Paradise, is a short word study in the Bible as it’s only used 3x. The verse in Luk 23:43 when Jesus spoke to the malefactor (not thief)…. this verse in 2Co 12:4 and in Rev 2:7

The only people who have seen Paradise (as of yet) is both Paul and John in a vision/revelation which Paul was not given permission to disclose (it was for his benefit) ….and of course Meatloaf saw it by the dashboard lights …but that may not be the same Paradise that the Bible is referring to.

Heaven is used over 550x and gives reference to 3 levels. Atmospheric, celestial, and the 3rd heaven where the Father, Jesus, and the angels reside. Heaven and paradise are not the same ….. Note what Rev 2:7 states, the location of Paradise is.

What you believe is up to you ….the Bible is clear …it’s religion that confounds the truth. Truth is proven by the Word of God ….. individual beliefs outside the Word … are just dust in the wind. It doesn’t matter whose they are …yours, mine, the Pope, or the preacher ….

The first three letter of conjecture are con, the first three letter of truth… are tru. (Jhn 17:17)
To date everyone who died did, including Jesus. So if you do not want to go there, do not die maam.
 

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He’s a candidate for the most dangerous man on the planet
and he dont work alone . HE dont work alone . Its all over the place .
I Tried to warn folks about another jesus and another false love getting preached
I knew by spiritual discernment , long ago this show was a new age JESUS .
NOW ITS ALL OUT IN THE OPEN and STILL I bet most folks will call me legailstic . WE cant follow another jesus .
 
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Are you done changing you question….or should I wait?

That is how God determines a natural man in the Bible …. But I am sure you have another.
I don't even dare go there, however a natural man is one who is a reprobate!
To date everyone who died did, including Jesus. So if you do not want to go there, do not die maam.
Again. your theology is something else to behold. Everyone who died and die unsaved will end up in hell for sure. Why? BECAUSE the gates of hell is upon them and they need a savior to save them!!!

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I don't even dare go there, however a natural man is one who is a reprobate!

Again. your theology is something else to behold. Everyone who died and die unsaved will end up in hell for sure. Why? BECAUSE the gates of hell is upon them and they need a savior to save them!!!

To God Be The Glory
Best to know what hell is Jun, everyone goes there sir, it is the abode of the dead. If you were correct, would you say Jesus who went there was "unsaved"? No, hell has nothing whatsoever to do with the way you live your life, every soul (breathing creature) animal or human has the same eventuality in this life Ecc 3:19,20
 
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What is hell DJ?
Hell is the abode of the dead. The word Hell refers to a place where a person/human goes and sleeps in death until the resurrection? We have to understand however that words such as Sheol, Hades, and Hell are symbolic words. Humans don't have souls, they are souls. So when a human dies he/she ceases to exist as a living soul or living person. The scripture at Genesis 2:7 teaches us that God took dust from the ground and formed it into a flesh and blood human body, then God blew the breath(spirit) of life into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. So when that breath(spirit) of life leaves the flesh and blood human body that flesh and blood human body is no longer a living soul or living person, meaning that flesh and blood human body that is a living soul or living person ceases to exist as a living soul or living person. A person's hope rest with God when he/she dies that God will remember him/her and resurrect him/her back into existence as a living soul or living person.
 
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Hell is the abode of the dead. The word Hell refers to a place where a person/human goes and sleeps in death until the resurrection? We have to understand however that words such as Sheol, Hades, and Hell are symbolic words. Humans don't have souls, they are souls. So when a human dies he/she ceases to exist as a living soul or living person. The scripture at Genesis 2:7 teaches us that God took dust from the ground and formed it into a flesh and blood human body, then God blew the breath(spirit) of life into that flesh and blood human body and that flesh and blood human body became a living soul or living person. So when that breath(spirit) of life leaves the flesh and blood human body that flesh and blood human body is no longer a living soul or living person, meaning that flesh and blood human body that is a living soul or living person ceases to exist as a living soul or living person. A person's hope rest with God when he/she dies that God will remember him/her and resurrect him/her back into existence as a living soul or living person.
Are you DJ my brother?
 

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Hell is the abode of the dead. The word Hell refers to a place where a person/human goes and sleeps in death until the resurrection? We have to understand however that words such as Sheol, Hades, and Hell are symbolic words


I believe qeber is the grave itself ….and sheol is the reign, state, or time of being in the grave. I believe Bullinger referred to it as gravedom………….. It is a continuing state until Christ returns